I have the following cities as the most frequently visted cities (Over and Over) that the WWF does shows.
See if your city made the list.......
New York City (you can get season Tix here)
Boston
Anaheim/LA
San Jose
Chicago (Sellout out factor, Lets see if they will do a show at the United Center.)
Philly
East Rutherford
St. Louis
Detriot
Cleveland
Dallas
Houston
St. Louis isn't visited near as often as some of those. We usually have a hot crowd, too. I'm afraid that since No Mercy didn't sell out, they won't have a big show here for awhile. I garuntee that any well hyped PPV would sell out here, though. It's weird, as they go to Chicago a lot, but they usually don't seem like all that hot of a crowd. Sure they were on Monday, but what crowd wouldn't have been?
Originally posted by eviljonhunt81St. Louis isn't visited near as often as some of those. We usually have a hot crowd, too. I'm afraid that since No Mercy didn't sell out, they won't have a big show here for awhile. I garuntee that any well hyped PPV would sell out here, though. It's weird, as they go to Chicago a lot, but they usually don't seem like all that hot of a crowd. Sure they were on Monday, but what crowd wouldn't have been?
Well being that "Backlash is in Kansas City MO this year I think you have an excellent chance of getting either "RAW" or "Smackdown" in St. Louis.
Originally posted by eviljonhunt81It's weird, as they go to Chicago a lot, but they usually don't seem like all that hot of a crowd. Sure they were on Monday, but what crowd wouldn't have been?
Chicago crowds are always hot, as even most wrestlers will point out. Go back and check out things like Foley's return just before WM, the night Jericho debuted, WM13, etc. We get a lot of events because it sells out and because the crowd is always hyped. And as for the quote about United Center, the WWF has always, with the singular exception of the Summerslam 94 card, worked with Rosemont Horizon/Allstate Arena. It's easier to book due to the lack of pro sports teams playing there. WCW grabbed United Center during their hot run in the mid-late 90's actually, and those were always sold out too. The size difference between the two isn't that great though, esp. as configured for wrestling. The WWF could sell out either building in Chicago, and would probably be able to support a WM size crowd if we had a big domed stadium.
The reason they keep visiting the same cities is that they sell well in those towns, and they are pretty generalized areas (they'll draw crowds from all over the state).
Adding to the list: Milwaukee
Which the WWF makes a big deal about visiting every couple months because the catering is so good.
I wish the WWF would come to Madison or St. Paul more, but eh.
You forgot Wooooooooster, Mass. They seem to go there a LOT.
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I guess Toronto is SORT OF on this list - being only one of two cities that will host WrestleMania more than once...I think. And we've had two Raw's and a SmackDown. :)
Are you sure that the United Center isn't that much bigger than the Allstate, spf? I've been in both, and Allstate just seems so small to me. I'd love for them to do a show at the United Center again, but Allstate is just 10-15 minutes from my house, so I ain't complaining too much! It would be interesting to see how a WWF United Center event would sell (if it would sell out the day tickets go on sale like the Allstate, or not till the day of the event, or not at all). Did Summerslam '94 sellout. 'Cause that was in the mid-90s WWF slump. Maybe they can do a Wrestlemania at the United Center someday.
And yes, Chicago crowds are ALWAYS hot. And there always seems to be flashers and fighters, too.
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I think you'll be able to add DC tot he list soon. This was a WCW town (they had Starrcade every year here), but the WWF has been here at least 2 or 3 times a year for the past couple years. The problem (and this is probably a common one) is that the only place that could host a WWF sized event that's anywhere near the City is the MCI Center, and you have to schedule around both basketball and hockey. Although they seem to do that with MSG just fine.
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Originally posted by BrewGuyI guess Toronto is SORT OF on this list - being only one of two cities that will host WrestleMania more than once...I think. And we've had two Raw's and a SmackDown. :)
I was discussing this in another thread earlier. The cities with multiple Wrestlmanias are Chicago (2 and 13) Anahiem (XII and 2000), Tornoto (VI and X8), New York (the first and X), and Atlantic City (IV and V, the only back to back Wrestlemanias).
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A couple of quick points: -Summerslam 94 sold out I believe, but I think that may have some to do with curiousity since that was the first event to take place in the new UC.
-The full capacity of Allstate is 18,500. The 270 degree config of United Center, which is about how much is blocked off for the wrestling set is 19,000. So I'd guess Allstate 270 is about 14-15,000. Either way, I have no doubt that UC would sell out just about as quick.
-I think technically 5 cities have hosted at least a part of 2 different WM. NYC (1,2,10), LA (2,7), Atlantic City (4,5), Chicago (2,13), Toronto (6,18). [edit] I forgot Anaheim, my bad. [end edit]
(edited by spf2119 on 21.2.02 1429)
There, I feel better now.
Originally posted by spf2119The full capacity of Allstate is 18,500. The 270 degree config of United Center, which is about how much is blocked off for the wrestling set is 19,000. So I'd guess Allstate 270 is about 14-15,000. Either way, I have no doubt that UC would sell out just about as quick.
Interesting. United Center always comes across looking so much bigger, especially on TV. When WCW was doing Nitors there it looked like almost twice the size of the Allstate. Thanks for the info.
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I just can't get over this one RAW in the summer from Chicago that seemed absolutely dead. Sometime in August or July. had to be August, if not later.
I doubt Smackdown would be taped in St. Louis, as we don't get Smackdown here. RAW is a better bet. Has not selling out a PPV (as St. Louis did for No Mercy) ever affected how often the come back to a town?
I went back and looked at the card you likely are thinking of. Outside of the Rock/Jericho/Booker verbal match, this really looks like a horrible card to see live. We can only do so much here you know.
In the last year I have noted that they go down south alot..the carolinas, and all the places which is Horsemen country.. Now I do rememberthey going to carolina before as I remember Road Dogg doing the whole cacalacki thing but I am not sure about the other southern regions. They probably started doing this when WCW went downhill knowing there were new opportunities there..and now they just have to..
Atlanta seems to be popular ever since early last year? *blink*
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Can anyone explain why the WWF hasn't done a PPV at Staples Center in LA? It seems like every time they go out west, Anaheim gets the PPV (2 WMs, RR 99) or Raw and Staples gets Smackdown. I think Staples has had a live TV show once (Raw in Nov. 99, with Stephanie and Test's wedding).
Well, North Carolina has three places that can hold a show, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Raleigh. I think South Carolina has 2, maybe three places for more shows, so they could do a 5 show southern swing whenever they want.
1. New York (for obvious reasons) 2. Chicago 3. Philadelphia 4. Toronto 5. Boston
Most of the HOT WWF towns are in the East but no one can outdo the NYC or Chi-Town crowds. And Philly of course is ECW country and plus their fans are just nuts anyway. I think it was the NYC crowd that initiated the "You Suck" sing-a-long with Angle's theme last year before No Way Out 2K1.
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