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Mr Shh
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.43
This was initially triggered by some online complaints I read recently that said Daniel Bryan’s Mania title win was just WWE’s way of providing temporary gratification to the “Yes! Movement”...that Bryan is not really viewed as a main eventer. Proof of this claim, of course, is that coming out of Mania, Bryan is working a second tier program with Kane, below HHH and Cena. The response to this complaint (I mean, *besides* the fact that Bryan became a made man a long time ago, and that he is forever untouchable) is that this exact situation, i.e., new champion coming out of Mania works a program that isn’t the main event going into the next PPV, happened before. The first example I thought of was Revenge of the Taker seventeen years ago (!), where the main event program (Austin-Hart) was not for the title. The face of the company at that time (before Austin exploded) was the champ, The Undertaker.

But then, after thinking about it more, I began to notice there a *lot* of parallels between the buildups to RotT and the upcoming Extreme Rules, both in real life and kayfabe, both silly and serious. Have a look. It’s like there’s a wormhole connecting 1997 Rochester, NY to 2014 East Rutherford, NJ.

1997: Brash, smart-ass Shawn Michaels loses his smile and walks away, creating an opening for The Undertaker to challenge for the championship

2014: Brash, smart-ass CM Punk loses his smile and walks away, creating an opening for Daniel Bryan to challenge for the championship

1997: The Honky Tonk Man takes Billy Gunn under his wing and unveils Rockabilly to the world, who targets future partner Jesse James

2014: Paul Heyman takes Cesaro under his wing and unveils The King of Swing to the world, who targets former partner Jack Swagger

1997: Bret Hart makes peace between Owen Hart and The British Bulldog, and reunites super-group The Hart Foundation to wage war against a common foe

2014: Triple H makes peace between Randy Orton and Batista, and reunites super-group Evolution to wage war against a common foe

1997: WWF Icon Bret Hart, adored by some and brutally hated by others, has his legacy threatened by tormentor and wildly popular anti-hero Steve Austin

2014: WWE Icon John Cena, adored by some and brutally hated by others, has his legacy threatened by tormentor and wildly popular anti-hero Bray Wyatt

1997: High-pitched Paul Bearer unleashes masked monster Mankind to rekindle war with The Undertaker, Face of the WWF and new Champion

2014: Low-pitched Stephanie McMahon unleashes masked monster Kane to rekindle war with Daniel Bryan, Face of the WWE and new Champion

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Peter The Hegemon
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.69 me, the fact that he's feuding with Kane is a GOOD sign. Kane is credible enough to help establish Bryan as a true world champ, but they also seem to be trying to keep bigger feuds in their pocket. If they weren't going to give Bryan a long reign, why not just keep him feuding with the Evolution guys? Of course, if they have Kane win the belt, everything I said is wrong...but I don't think they'll do that.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
After Kane's heated beatdown on Bryan and the dull promofest of Shield vs Evolution, I'm a lot more excited for the former.

Personally I am in no doubt that Bryan vs Kane closes the show, and I think the quality of the match will surprise many.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
Its a plus minus situation. Bryan being kept away from HHH and Evolution is a plus. The minus is that while masked Kane is cool and all, its not exactly a big time opponent for the newly crowned champ. Its not as bad as Kevin Nash that Punk got, but its not Brock Lesnar that Cena got two years ago around this time either. Kane is a good stable guy, but I have seen some rather awful Kane matches too.

The real problem is Bryan's personal life. Having a wedding after Mania was not the best idea in the world, but I doubt both of them realized Bryan was going to be the champ when they planned it. Of course, the Total Diva cameras were there as well, so how much they planned maybe up for debate. I also heard a rumor Bryan's father passed away this week too which is just awful. So, keeping Bryan off TV is out of everyone's hands. I think he will main event, but if he doesn't, it will raise some eyebrows. Shield/Evolution is a big deal, but there is nothing on the line here. If the WWE is serious about the title and Bryan, he should main event.

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Matt Tracker

Since: 8.5.03
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
We've had Triple H/Orton vs. Bryan since Summerslam. We had three consecutive Orton/Bryan PPV main events after that show. He finally got the belt back from that stable just two weeks ago. He has to face someone else, even if the PPV model changed with the Network.

Obviously Kane and Bryan have history, and Kane deserves one last title match before he walks away (not suggesting it's imminent, but it's getting closer). This match makes sense for the main-event variety; for the progression of Corporate Kane; for Bryan to have a significant, established challenger for his new title; and for The Authority/Evolution to still target the underdog champ.

If the WWE didn't perceive Bryan as a main eventer, they needn't wait for the PPV to knock him down. The perception that the WWE wants the belts off him works in their favor for the booking; audiences go insane with suspense that he could lose it any day and are so delighted by his survival that the subsequent YES chants go to 11.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.95
I'm fine with Bryan/Kane on a few levels. I don't doubt that it'll be a good match(now set to be an extreme-rules affair) and Bryan is most likely winning, so he'll have the belt for at least a month.

I'm not sure if it'll close out the PPV^H^H^Hspecial event as other bouts on the card have more hype behind them...but I guess we'll see. I did have the kneejerk reaction to Cena closing out the show, but real-life circumstances dictated that show format(getting Bryan out the door to deal with his family matters).


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.09
Kane is Bryan's former partner turned corporate. This was set in stone well before the belt was involved.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.24
Here are some more thoughts from a demented mind in Central Florida:
Honestly, I'm okay with Bryan vs. Kane for the title at our next PP... er, special. As previously pointed out, there's history between them. Also, Kane's got the reputation as one of the safest workers (if not *the* safest worker) the E's got, so the likelihood of the Daniel Bryan Reign ending early due to fluke injury is minimal (Witness the E pitting Kane against Cena in the months leading up to WrestleMania XXVIII against the Rock in Miami.). Also, if they put him over Kane by overcoming the monster instead of a fluke roll-up, it makes the guy look like even more of a bad-ass and unstoppable against Evolution. As also has been previously pointed out, this differs from the Super-Cena that's been given to us over the past few years, because "undersized" Bryan and his attitude against his opponents differs from Cena's "Oh well rise above hate Attitude Adjustment STF I win again LOLZ."

If they do this right, they can keep the Daniel Bryan title reign going to Survivor Series - which is post-early-90s WWF/WWE, is close to an eternity.

And if we're talking parallels here... perhaps a parallel to Shawn Michaels defending against Diesel in '96 at "IYH: Good Friends, Better Enemies"?

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.14
Kane and Big Show are always an automatic, credible threat. They've been booked like that forever. Mark Henry gets that treatment too, a little bit. This is fine booking.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.58
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Kane and Big Show are always an automatic, credible threat. They've been booked like that forever. Mark Henry gets that treatment too, a little bit. This is fine booking.

Yeah, this makes sense to me. Kane, right now, is what Ryback was to John Cena last year. And, even Cena didn't get the main event (he was under HHH-Brock in a cage) and he still had a fine reign up until SummerSlam.

Kane is also what Dude Love was to Steve Austin in 1998. The first challenger is always going to be a guy used to build the champ up, if they're shooting for a longer reign and are booking it right.

Couple that with the fact that there's a built in story already for Bryan-Kane with them being former tag champions together and Kane aligning himself with the Authority, who have been Bryan's main threat for the last few months and he's a natural opponent. Main event or not.

EDIT: I like the Good Friends, Better Enemies parallel. It's kinda like that, especially since Kane also used to be Diesel.

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Tyler Durden

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.46
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Kane is also what Dude Love was to Steve Austin in 1998.

True, or Rick Rude to Warrior in 1990, or Diesel to Bret in 1994, or Bulldog to Shawn in 1996; a real threat (on paper) that won't win the belt (in the end). A classic, booking-wise.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.93
There's certainly no shortage of worthy challengers for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

At some point, you figure Randy Orton will get his one-on-one rematch for the title. Batista might get one, too. (OK, some are less worthy than others). John Cena won't be out of the title hunt for long. Triple H ain't done with him by a damn sight. A rematch with Bray Wyatt is almost inevitable. And the next time we see Brock Lesnar, you KNOW he'll demand a title shot. Anyone who breaks The Streak should get a title shot.

And that's just the A-list. The B-list is also very impressive. Sheamus, The Big Show, Cesaro, Roman Reigns, Christian. All but two of those are former world champions, and Cesaro and Reigns are certainly future world champions.

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