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Amos Cochran
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Since: 28.8.09

#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
Cue the handwringing about a)Bryan being booked so strong going into the big show, and b)the small cadre of retards that, after a stellar creepy debut, thought it would be funny to chant "Husky Harris" at the Wyatt family.

EDIT: D'oh, can a mod fix that number to 1050. This is why starting Raw threads should be left to the pros.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 9.7.13 0439)
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Since: 28.2.02
From: Boston

#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
Ryback hugging Vickie deserves to win a Slammy. Come see the softer side of The Ryback.

I thought the Bellas' "AJ must smell like food" burn on Kaitlyn was pretty funny, even if it flew over Cole's head.

"Husky Harris" chant wasn't that bad. A "Windham Rotunda" chant would be bad.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Stafford, VA

#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
Brad Maddox? Huh.

The Wyatt Family - wrestling to pay the electricity bill. Seriously, the dude with the big red beard was in the same play as Dr. Shelby's kid or nephew or who cares because whoever made that mask made that kid's mask too. Also, if you're going to smash someone's face with steel stairs, don't hit them with the part where there's no stairs; next time go table, or put him through the rocking chair (the real reason the lights go out, think they play paper-rock-scissors to see who carries it out?) Cool intro, digging, uh, Hat Guy Wyatt's mannerisms post beatdown.

So there's Hat Guy Wyatt, Children's Mask Wyatt, and Bald Spot Wyatt.

Mark MOTHERFUCKING Henry, still bringing the gold. He needs to find another way to harness the 'What' chants.

Faaaaahn-Daaaahng-Gooooo is the only face(ish) in the whole World Title MITB? And there's nary a heel in the WWE Title MITB, barring RVD showing up dressed as an SS officer and killing puppies on the way to the ring. Ooh, maybe there'll be a sweet face turn in the World Title MITB, like they could turn, uh, Cody Rhodes?

The WWE makes sure that nobody has the same name, but I lost count of how many beards I saw. Henry, Sandow, Bryan, and the Wyatts rocking the big bush (but only Bryan's is significant enough to mention) along with Orton and Swagger's "I think I'm done puberty" whiskers, man, tonight was a beardapalooza.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Kentucky - Home of the 8 time NCAA Champ Wildcats

#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
Was the segment supposed to turn Vickie face?

Because, at least, with me, if she's catching shit from Steph and HHH, then she's a face. I'd rather see Vickie on TV than any McMahon not named Shane or Brad Maddox. Ryback hugging her actually turned him face in my eyes - though in the "WWE Universe" it may just be a way of setting up Vickie to manage Ryback, which would be great as long as they don't have to become a couple.

Was I the only one getting "Cactus Jack in Cleveland" flashbacks when they were looking for the Wyatt family? I was also briefly scared that they were going to make the Wyatts the Bushwackers. Lack of faith...



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Since: 2.1.02

#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
They could always stop debuting people with dumb names that only serves to amuse themselves.

Of course those who are chanting Husky Harris will probably be the first ones to complain about new talent never getting over.
whatever
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Since: 12.2.02
From: Cleveland, Ohio

#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
If they really wanted to know who has the worst voice, I mean geez, Steph was *right there*. They could have a scream/bellow-athon until the votes come in on the WWE App.

I enjoyed the Wyatt Family debut.

You don't get much more serious about pushing Bryan than what they did tonight. Getting his win back over Sheamus, and standing tall at the end like that was amazing.




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Since: 11.5.03
From: Mount Pleasant, Pa.

#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
Wish we would have had more vignettes of the WWE film crew searching for and visiting the Wyatt compound leading up to their appearance on Raw.

I didn't know electric lanterns turned off by blowing on them.

Looks like Vicky might get some retribution against the WWE by being Ryback's manager.

Trying to remember the last time I saw a wrestler in the WWE with a full head of hair but still showing a blatant bald spot with no attempt at hiding it.





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Since: 23.6.10
From: Auburn, AL

#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.45
I was hoping when the lights came back on there would have been like 30 Wyatt cult members.
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Since: 4.1.02
From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe)

#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
That promo at the end was good and the beatdown was solid.
But what made it all work for me was the one-frame flash of the goat face ...

Also, Bray's lines..
'I created war' and all that stuff. Spooky stuff.
He's channeling all sorts of cult leaders/crazy people

Bryan standing tall at the end of the show.
Oh shit, he loses at the ppv right?


(edited by dMp on 9.7.13 1501)
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Since: 4.1.02
From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe)

#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
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Since: 9.1.02
From: Monmouth County, NJ

#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.37
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Cue the handwringing about the small cadre of retards that, after a stellar creepy debut, thought it would be funny to chant "Husky Harris" at the Wyatt family.

I think it was that same cadre that *completely* screwed up at the end when Punk was trying to drum up a "G-T-S" chant and got a "C-M-Punk" chant instead. Thought that was funny. Then, a minute later, all the ladies in the house showed them how it's done when they hit Orton with an unsolicited "R-K-O" chant right after the DDT.

The Wyatt Family debut was well done, but as mentioned, the attack with the steel stairs was lame. With all the hype and attention, you'd think they were going to insert themselves into something higher profile.

Vince and Vickie were superb.



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Since: 19.8.05
From: My Old Kentucky Home

#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
Too bad The Wyatts couldn't take out the McMahons. Great debut though, but does anyone know if any of these guys can really go in the ring? I don't watch NXT.

Anyone beating Sheamus is rare, so glad Bryan continues to get the star treatment. Then he gets to kick ass on Punk and Orton to close the show? I would agree that means he is going to lose at the PPV, but I don't see the seeds being planted for any other title match at SummerSlam.

If these shows were 2 hours, I don't think I would ever complain. But even a good show drags after 3 hours.
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Since: 22.2.04
From: Cambridge, MA

#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
I've never seen a match with the two lackeys, but Bray Wyatt is fine and he's adapted this creepy persona into his ringwork very effectively. Back when I first heard about the gimmick I didn't get how it would translate into the wrestling part, but he's managed to do it. I've only watched 3 or 4 short matches but they were all very entertaining.

I thought the electric lantern was silly. If you can't have a flame, use a dim flashlight pointed up or something.

I looove the Wyatt theme music. It sounds good as a background in the promos and also as entrance music.

(edited by samoflange on 9.7.13 1013)
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Since: 10.12.01
From: Aurora, IL

#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.32
    Originally posted by kentish
    Too bad The Wyatts couldn't take out the McMahons. Great debut though, but does anyone know if any of these guys can really go in the ring? I don't watch NXT.


Hat Guy Wyatt - Yes
Children's Mask Wyatt - No!
Bald Spot Wyatt - more Yes than No



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Amos Cochran
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Since: 28.8.09

#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
Children's Mask Wyatt should be renamed Upside-Down Sheamus Wyatt.

Luke Harper/Brodie/Bald Spot Wyatt is pretty swish for a big guy from what I've seen. Get him working with the WWE's ring general types and he could be special.
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Since: 18.5.07

#16 Posted on
Thought the Wyatt's debut was probably the best handled debut since Y2J in 1999. That entrance alone will get them over consistently with the live crowds.
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Since: 25.4.03
From: Nashville, TN

#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67

so who gets turned face first, the Wyatts or the Shield?
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Since: 5.11.08
From: Ashland, MA

#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.38
    Originally posted by kentish
    Great debut though, but does anyone know if any of these guys can really go in the ring? I don't watch NXT.



So Mask Wyatt is apparently called Erick Rowan, and I know nothing about him. Bald Spot Wyatt is Brodie Lee, but is now called Luke Harper, and he's a hit-or-miss guy, but being an ROH product before ROH went to shit, he knows his way around the ring. Bray Wyatt is okay, I think. His NXT work (from season 2, when he was Husky Harris) was unimpressive and the one decent match floating on Youtube that has him going against Chris Jericho on NXT (as Bray Wyatt) isn't very flattering for him. I mean, Jericho! But if people have seen more of him and are sold on him, I'll defer to better judgment.

While that debut was appropriately creepy, it felt like a letdown because of the massive hype. They backed themselves into such a corner that anything outside of coming out, laying waste to all the McMahons, and drinking Stephanie's blood was going to seem like a bit of a letdown. Although a McMahon beatdown would probably have turned them face, given the way the job appraisal segment was going. The crowd was already cheering for the Wyatts when they came in. And isn't there a Sister Abigail? Or is that just the name of a move? That entrance theme is a total winner, though, so I'm putting the over/under on Jim Johnston remixing it (like he did with Axel's theme) to two weeks. (Hint: take the under). My favorite current entrance themes, in no particular order: Big E Langston, Curtis Axel, Wyatt Family, Alex Riley (if he's still around and using "Say It To My Face"), Daniel Bryan, and the Shield. Plus you've got age-old classics like Christian (where the cover actually works better for me than the original), and Brock Lesnar.

Brad Maddox's expression when Vince announced his name was pretty epic. I'd be surprised if Vickie doesn't end with a *very sore* throat after all that screeching, but it was impressive the way her voice held up during that backstage segment.

Moment of the night: Ryback and Vickie, no question.

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    Faaaaahn-Daaaahng-Gooooo is the only face(ish) in the whole World Title MITB?

I don't think Fandango's going to be the face. I have a feeling it'll be Wade Barrett. He got a nice face pop wiping out Fandango. That was a fun little segment too. Also, the smark crowds are already beginning to cheer the Shield, so look for Ambrose to be getting face pops in Philadelphia.

You can never go wrong with Sheamus and Daniel Bryan. Their 2 out of 3 falls match at Extreme Rules last year was one of my favorite PPV matches of 2012.

Cena tried his best to ruin that promo early with his HORRIBLE Snickers joke, but they both recovered in time. And since when can Mark Henry cut a promo? That's three in a row for him! Go get 'em, Mark!

(edited by used2bcool on 9.7.13 1000)
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Since: 28.8.09

#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
Wyatts versus Shield: do a six-man at Night of Champions or something with all the belts on the line, with whoever gets pinned losing theirs (so Ambrose loses the US title if pinned but not if the others take the fall). Shield ostensibly working as the faces. Then Ambrose turns full heel by clobbering Rollins or something to save his belt, and the Wyatts win the tag belts. Presto! Face Shield of Rollins and Reigns, Ambrose gets to break away, Wyatts get the belts, and there's loads of new feud permutations set up.
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Since: 10.12.01
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.53
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    the small cadre of retards that, after a stellar creepy debut, thought it would be funny to chant "Husky Harris" at the Wyatt family.
Do you blame the cadretards, or do you blame the promoter who said "let's give the fat kid a stupid name because it's funny because he's fat" with no thought that hey, maybe this isn't the best plan for someone who you've signed to a contract and might want to make money with someday?

Michael McGillicutty and Skip Sheffield would be getting the same treatment if their names were more chantable.
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