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Santa Sangre

Since: 21.6.02
From: Germany

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Why is it that Raw, the live show where anything can happen, never seems to have anything shocking happen. When was the last time somebody new showed up to rock the house?

Back in the glory days of WCW, you never knew who was going to show up on Nitro. They had a better hand on this than the WWF crew. When used properly this is a surefire way to have a great angle. NWO comes to mind immediately, and others like Luger, Jarrett, Storm, Raven...

Except for Eric Bishoff(ha), I can't remember anytime that the WWF has surprised us with someone new since the Radicals jumped on ship in 2000. Whenever a big name is coming in there is always somekind of promo/commercial and talk of it before it happens. I think that is ok for someone the fan base might not know about, ie. Ultimo Dragon. But when people like Goldberg, or the NWO are coming or someone is coming back from an injury like HHH, or Austin, it should be kept a secret.

I hate to bring up ratings but I think they will be higher in the long run if people know that anything can happen. You might get that one time spike because a HHH return was hyped for a few weeks. I'm just of the opinion that anything can happen > redundancy.

This brings me to another point about present day WWF. They bring up all these generic guys and throw them out there to no reaction at all. Garrison, Cade, the French dudes, Orton, Maven, Gail Kim. All of these people were sent out to perform with no apparent reason. And consequently most have no heat what so ever.

For some reason, though, when Brock Lesnar came up to the big time he had purpose. Yes all it was was GRR I'M a MONSTER, but at least he gave us a reason right away to love/hate him.

I'm not longing for the days of crash t.v. I watched Nitro and Thunder to the bitter end. I don't want to see WCW redux with swerves, title changes, and newcomers every week. But if new people/big returns are used properly, as in mixed in with hyped returns, they could pump some much needed life back into Raw.

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Notorious F.A.B.

Since: 4.2.02
From: Dudleyville's Gay Ghetto

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I'm gonna go off topic and kindly ask people to please make their thread titles descriptive of the thread. This isn't some news site trying to trick people into viewing another page so they can get the banner revenue.

Anyway. When was the last time? Last night. Twice.

I hope HHH gets you fired.
Big Bad

Since: 4.1.02
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I heartily agree with the point about bringing in guys like Cade and Jindrak and throwing them out there. The way to get a guy over is to build him up in promos first. Of course, then you actually have to follow through on those promos (i.e. Sean O'Haire), which might be too difficult a concept to grasp for the WWE writers.

"When this bogus term alternative rock was being thrown at every '70s retro rehash folk group, we were challenging people to new sonic ideas. If some little snotty anarchist with an Apple Mac and an attitude thinks he invented dance music and the big rock group is coming into his territory, [that's] ridiculous." - Bono, 1997

Since: 20.1.02
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Last time I was legitimately shocked and surprised was when Spike Dudley debuted back in 2001. Go figure.

Net Hack Slasher

Since: 6.1.02
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I think you are kinda touching on the biggest downparts for WWE itself having a monopoly. They cannot get a big instant pop/shot in the arm of bringing in a former WCW and lesser extent a former ECW wrestler.

Even if this wrestler was nothing more of a mid-carder in his former company all of a sudden he seems a lot more important and a lot more interesting because the intrigue of him jumping ship and seeing what he's going to do with his new company. No matter who (hell even X-pac) is brought in it bring instant dynamic to the show

We are never going to have that Jeff Jarrett dissing Debra and WCW when he came to WWE (ironic how that turned out) or the outlandish Jericho debut. You just can't have that anymore, and it's kind of sad.

The only wrestlers are to be signed are mostly past their prime guys who's been out of sight for 2 and half years now, or NWA-TNA guys who 90% of the audience wouldn't know who they are or OVW guys which 95% of the audience are clueless on who they are.

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