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Since: 9.2.02
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#1 Posted on
Here's an idea for The Big Show . When he returns have him turn heel and join the nWo . Use the angle that " while I was injured none of the boys in the back , the front office , my so called friends , even bothered to pick up a phone and give me a call ".

Don't have his role in the NWO though as a suck up flunky of Hall, Nash , and Hogan . Have it more as " I just want to simply destroy the WWF also , because they ain't nobody in the WWf that gives a damn about The Big Show or cares whether or not if I ever get another title shot ". A BIG , BAD ,MAD , MAN , that wants revenge .
The NWO would be the perfect vehicle for him to accomplish this (destroying the WWF ) .

The whole angle could run until Show finally gets tired of Hogans back stabbing ways with it culminating in a Show vs. Hogan " loser leave the WWF forever " match . This of course would have to take place whenever it was time for the " Huckster" to lace up the boots for the
last time ( maybe he'd finally put somebody over ) . IMO , that would be next years Wrestlemania .

I don't know , it's just a thought . I'm a huge " Well it's The Big Show " mark . I just want to see him get over huge as a main event player .
Turn him loose and let him be the monster he is I say .

BTW , I wonder how he would fair in the UFC ?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
Yikes.

So basically you propose having The Big Show join the nWo for pretty much the same reason Big Bubba left the nWo?

Every time Giant has been in the nWo, his role has been as sort of simply hired muscle as opposed to equal to Hall, Nash and Hogan. Both times he was in the nWo, he was unceremoniously removed from it. So it's a stretch, to me, that he'd join up with them yet a third time.



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#3 Posted on
I think Show would be one of the only choices if the nWo would be recruiting.
Especially since he has history with them..
The whole 'I am not getting what I deserve so I kill you all' idea is the only way to go I think..

Don't expect Show however to remember he didnt get what he deserved when he was in the nWo two times before..

No idea how he would do in the UFC. Someone would probably take him down in 5 seconds as he is slow at times and then snap some bodypart..



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I agree with the UFC thing. If Show were able to actually get his hands on someone, forget about it. But he's too slow to stand up to anyone quick and dangerous.

I wouldn't be the least surprised if Big Show did join the nWo, in spite of his recent history with them. Vince has already done a goodly amount of revisionist history as it pertains to the nWo.



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No , his motive ( his hidden adgenda ) for joining the NWO would be for extracting revenge and destroying the WWF , the same objective of the NWO .Basically he would be using them to get what he wants , while Hogan , Hall , Nash are under the impression they,ve brought back the same big , dumb , easily manipulated hired muscle of the past to do their bidding .
Like I said , I'm a mark for Show , I just want to see him get over .




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I agree that The Big Show certainly seems like a good fit for the nWo. And as long as they can clearly explain to me why he'd ever wanna hook up with the nWo after what happened to him the last two times, I'm all for it.



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#7 Posted on
Why would they acknowledge it?
Actually, if they gonna do one of those 'glare mistrustingly at one another' angles I expect they will look at Show first.
But for the storyline pov they wouldnt have to acknowledge it at all..he just joins them or he doesn't.





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Why would they? For storyline logic purposes, of course! So it'd make sense to me! Even if only I remember that he was ever in the nWo to begin with, LOL...

I'm not saying they're likely to acknowledge it, I'm just saying that if they're gonna get in the habit of acknowledging things that happened in WCW's past, it's probably a good idea to talk about people's past history with the nWo.

Right now, as far as guys currently on the WWF roster, former nWo members include:

Big Bossman (as Big Bubba)
Mr. Perfect (as Curt Hennig)
X-Pac (as Syxx)
And, of course, The Big Show.

And of all those guys, I think the only one likely to get “former nWo member” acknowledgement would probably be X-Pac, based on the fact that he was part of the original Wolfpack with Hallnnash.



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i dont know about x-pac joining... i guess we will wait and see.... i mean most of the fans remember him as D-X... not as part of the nWo.... and as far as bringing in new members (big show) they just need to use the nWo 4 life angle.... show could honor that while getting some sort of revenge on the WWF and the other former members may choose not to honor it... that's why they dont rejoin...



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#10 Posted on
Paul Wight would be ANNIHILATED in the UFC by anyone with even marginal capabilities. Sure, he's big and strong, but he's a lumbering ox; he has no measurable striking, grappling or submission skills. He makes Paul Varelans look like a Gracie by comparison.

As for Wight in the nWold, I would prefer for them to do something ON THEIR OWN to justify their presence before the WWF roster starts creeping over to their side. But that's just me.






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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by vsp
    Paul Wight would be ANNIHILATED in the UFC by anyone with even marginal capabilities. Sure, he's big and strong, but he's a lumbering ox; he has no measurable striking, grappling or submission skills.


I don't know , I think he could hold his own .
Yeah for sure he's a lumbering ox , but far as no measureable striking skills , I think if he he ever drove that big paw of his into a man's face or body , he would kill them .
I have to agree with what ekedolphin said though ...
" If Show were able to actually get his hands on someone, forget about it. But he's too slow to stand up to anyone quick and dangerous. "
He would just have to protect those tree trunks of his , or else he would be chopped down like the giant redwood that he is .





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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pheadfred

      Originally posted by vsp
      Paul Wight would be ANNIHILATED in the UFC by anyone with even marginal capabilities. Sure, he's big and strong, but he's a lumbering ox; he has no measurable striking, grappling or submission skills.


    I don't know , I think he could hold his own .
    Yeah for sure he's a lumbering ox , but far as no measureable striking skills , I think if he he ever drove that big paw of his into a man's face or body , he would kill them .
    I have to agree with what ekedolphin said though ...
    " If Show were able to actually get his hands on someone, forget about it. But he's too slow to stand up to anyone quick and dangerous. "
    He would just have to protect those tree trunks of his , or else he would be chopped down like the giant redwood that he is .




I have two words for you: Tank Abbott.

Abbott was the archetype of the fighter you're describing -- a mean, muscular brute who had few formal skills but could punch your lights out if he got an opening. His strategy was simple: get in close, then flail with brute force. He had no boxing skills and couldn't throw crisp punches, but relied on sheer strength to win.

When Abbott got to brawl, he generally won, but he was trounced repeatedly by those with grappling and submission skills (and, against Vitor Belfort, a talented striker, he was helpless). For all his popularity and viciousness, he ended his UFC career with a journeyman 8-8 record.

Now tell me what Wight has that Abbott doesn't, apart from a lot more weight, much slower movement and a bit more reach.

Now look at what ABBOTT did to Paul Varelans, who was another guy whose primary attribute was being hefty (6'8", 330 lbs). Or what a lot of other people did to Varelans in the Octagon, for that matter...

Wight would fare as well in the UFC as Butterbean would fare against Lennox Lewis. There's always a chance for a lucky punch, but speed plus power will slaughter raw, slow power almost every time.




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#13 Posted on

    Originally posted by vsp
    Now tell me what Wight has that Abbott doesn't,


Actually , I don't see the comparasion . I always seen Abbott as nothing more than a big bully with an even bigger mouth who could only back up half of what he said .
I , quiet frankly , think that's like comparing apples and oranges .
Abbott ain't no genetic freak , he's just a freak .



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#14 Posted on
i didnt mean for him to jump ship and join the nWo right away.... the timing has to be right.... have the nWo do a few more beatdowns... then have the wwf people mount some kind of defense for it and then have him show up as a surprise when the nWo is losing... typical tactic... but it could be effective...



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#15 Posted on
IMHO, the whole NWO thing shouldn't have been this close to Wrestlemania. Diminished both sides of things, y'know.




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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pheadfred

      Originally posted by vsp
      Now tell me what Wight has that Abbott doesn't,


    Actually , I don't see the comparasion . I always seen Abbott as nothing more than a big bully with an even bigger mouth who could only back up half of what he said .
    I , quiet frankly , think that's like comparing apples and oranges .
    Abbott ain't no genetic freak , he's just a freak .



Let me try again, then. Tank survived and had some substantial wins in UFC competition on strength and brutality alone. He couldn't wrestle, grapple, kick or box, but he could hit guys really hard (he's bench-pressed 500), throw meaty haymakers and absorb some damage while doing so, and that was enough much of the time. That's how you're suggesting that Wight could win fights, right?

Varelans was a beached whale who tried to win on strength, size and brute force alone, much like the above, but got slaughtered most of the time. This was largely because he had much less mobility, speed and striking skills than Tank did, and Tank was no great shakes in any of those categories. Punchers like Vovchanchin, Belfort or Abbott beat him silly without effort, Marco Ruas kicked his legs into pulp at UFC 7, and Dan Severn made his one attempt at a kick against a wrestler look silly (instant takedown -> choke) at the Ultimate Ultimate in '95.

Now, take Varelans and make him bigger, fatter and slower, and you have Paul Wight. Take Tank and make him MUCH taller, fatter and slower, as well as exponentially less likely to move fast enough to fend off faster opponents or land punches cleanly, and you have Paul Wight. Exactly how would he be able to defend himself?

"But Wight's much stronger than Tank," you may be thinking... though you may not know that Abbott benched around 500 pounds.

If size alone could succeed in the UFC, Manny Yarborough and Koji Kitao would still be waddling around the octagons.



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#17 Posted on
Well, now that Nash is back - maybe he'll attempt to powerbomb Show and break his neck again....

Who knows?




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#18 Posted on
I agree with VSP....Wight would get murdered in the octagon. No speed, no mobility, no agility. Three leg strikes and he's down and from there he's helpless. The Paul Varelans comparison is entirely accurate. Hell, we have no idea if he can even take a punch!
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#19 Posted on
He should come back as an angry psychopath who refuses to be referred to by the always lame moniker of The Big Show. The Giant should then go on a rampage of chokeslamming the hell out of everybody who crosses his path. Wrestlers, announcers, little old ladies in the third row, everyone. I want a mean, snarling, spitting, chokeslamming, longhaired monster of a Giant rather than a giant jobber for every upper midcarder he comes across. When The Giant is announced as the Mystery Opponent du jour people should A) be frightened; and B) be crushed. I don't see Paul as a top level talent right now, but a 7 ft 500 lb monster heel could get there PDQ.

And under no circumstances should he consider putting on a NWO t'shirt. And he'd be killed in the octagon.
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#20 Posted on
The only WWF guys that would stand a chance in the UFC are Angle and Blackmon, but I would go with Angle myself.
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