This is crazy to think. It obviously was going to happen at some point in our lifetimes but its still a bit of a shock. Its going to be a very interesting couple of months of wwe programming that's for sure. Is NXT going to go back to its old ways?
I love all the theories now bouncing around, from a quick sale to NBC to Triple H luring away every AEW hoss he can. But what I hope for isn't a massive change in presentation or roster. I want the performers to get longer matches and fewer silly gimmicks. The platform for WWE material is huge. Let's see something worth that prominence. I want this potential seismic change to lead to a great product. That helps everyone.
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Agree with Kevin - I cannot believe Vince is really letting go
We'll be back right after order has been restored here in the Omni Center.
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Okay, so, nobody believes Vince, which is probably a good way to approach this. Most likely, he's trying to lay low until the heat dies down (which, unfortunately, it probably will before too long). I don't think anything major is likely to change, but it'd be nice to see a few minor changes in the product, like maybe an actual tag division. While I'd love to see NXT go back to the way it was, I'm not really holding my breath there, but maybe we can get to a place where it seems like anybody cares about the product they're producing.
It's a shame that no one got the rub of being the person who forced Mr. McMahon to quit. Actually beating him in a match wouldn't mean anything at this point, but surely there could have been some way for a face to create a PPV match where Mr. McMahon's role in the fed was on the line. Mind you, I am NOT suggesting it should be done under the current circumstances, just that it's too bad the circumstances are what they are (and that Vince apparently is at least as much of a heel as that character).
It was a bit of a shocker, but seeing how the last few months went not the moment we thought it would be years ago.
All the dirt that comes out now isn't shocking either as it fits with the character he's built up over the years so I say it's a tragedy for all involved and good riddance for him.
But I mean, we all expected him to be stretchered out of the office before he would call it quits, right? That almost makes this 'lame' as his departure is a sizzle and not a bang.
For now Vince will have input being the major shareholder and well..dad of the CEO etc. But in a year or so that direct influence will have dwindled. I think some things will change. Not the main focus of the company which is about profit and entertainment. It's too big of a juggernaut to become a 'rasslin company' But I think over time you'll see a shift in the in-ring stuff again. A more modern way of thinking, a bit more input from the wrestlers maybe. But still the over the top presentation they're doing these days because it does seem to get $$.
Originally posted by Spiraling_ShapeYet he's still the majority shareholder so he's not 100% gone. The most fascinating aspect (to me at least) is "who is going to run creative?" when Vince oversaw almost every moment of every show.
Unsurprisingly the answer is one Paul Levesque.
One of the most amusing points I saw about Vince not handling creative is that they can stop using all his weird turns of phrase on commentary, i.e. when they were going out of their way with awkward phrasing not to say Edge's recent return of the bloodbath gimmick involved "blood" or describing things as "___-like." My wife and I often reference and laugh about the time someone (Cole I'm sure) had to say something was a "box-like structure."
I wonder if this will even stick once the “decades of sexual abuse” thing blows over. I mean, it isn’t like any of the wrestlers’ retirements last. What this does do is distance his scandal from the actual product a bit. Then come Wrestlemania time he can be inducted in the Hall of Fame and everyone can make a big deal and talk about how great Vince is and how much they love him, and how much he’s done for the business, etc. I sure hope this doesn’t garner a bunch of good will and warm fuzzy feelings right before a court date.
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It'll stick. The thing that prompted his retirement wasn't the decades of sexual abuse, it was embezzling company funds for personal use. With the SEC investigating that, they're not going to chance him coming back.
"Do you think because he tweeted 'I'm retired', he's not gonna be hands on? I don't think the structure there changes. I don't think the culture there changes at all. I'll put it to you like this. Mercedes (Sasha Banks) and Trinity (Naomi) leave, and they announce on SmackDown 'Gosh darn! We're so disappointed in them and they really let our fans down.' Brock splits. Comes back. Obviously I think he works the show, but where's Michael Cole saying 'Man, Brock Lesnar really let these fans down?' I walked out and they went on TV and called me a quitter. What's changed? What's the difference? You're going to attack these 2 fuckin' poor women who just kind of had enough and they walk? They got bigger balls than everybody there. So what's changed? There's nothing much that's changed. There's people that talk about it and there's people that do it. The people who lick the boots and have the audacity to go on live TV and say that about those 2 women. Fucking cowards and bootlickers! That shit’s ridiculous. Why didn't they do it for Brock? Did it for me."
"I worked with Vince. I know Vince. Guys, if you really think Vince McMahon is retired, you’re clueless. What do you think Vince McMahon is doing, bro? Reading a book? Going for a stroll on the beach like hanging out at the pool in Connecticut.
Retirement basically meant I could not show my face up at TV, at the office anymore, but if you don’t think, bro, every thing is still not getting run by him, and he is not calling the shots, then you don’t know Vince McMahon."