Originally posted by Mr Heel IIHow in the HELL did that guy do a slide on his nose???
He was hypnotized, DUH!
Seriously though, wrestlecrap or not, that goes into the pantheon of booking decisions. And the aforementioned head slide was sick. In fact, ALL of the big guy's breaking was pretty impressive. The best worm in wrestling!
I'm torn on these types of things. They are really funny, but totally expose the business. I mean, is it any different from Russo's stupid shoot angles?
I dunno the vaguely homoerotic snake/fish hypnosis move combined with the awful costumes is pretty amazing all by itself. It only works when their powers combine at the groin...
That was great. Spots like those are perfect in small doses at the right time. I laughed; I wouldn't want to see it every time that team had a match, but once was funny.
Originally posted by ScottyflamingoI'm torn on these types of things. They are really funny, but totally expose the business. I mean, is it any different from Russo's stupid shoot angles?
Originally posted by DawgDoes it "expose the business" more or less so than flaming barb wire scaffold dog poop on a stick matches?
Saw that team (Osiris Portal?) 2 years at ROH where they tried to hypnotize Steen & Generico. Obviously it worked on Generico, Steen killed them. They did trick Steen into a breakdance spot tho (and then he killed them again)
So when I saw the hypno-move I was like "meh, seen that" And then the rest happens. WTF. Yes, it's ridiculous, but this is at an indy federation where there's smarts who either want ridiculous stuff like this or realllly awesome wrestling. ;)
Originally posted by dMpSaw that team (Osiris Portal?) 2 years at ROH where they tried to hypnotize Steen & Generico. Obviously it worked on Generico, Steen killed them. They did trick Steen into a breakdance spot tho (and then he killed them again)
Osirian Portal, and personally, I'm surprised this happened in CZW and not Chikara.
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Reminded me of this moment from CHIKARA, in which two wrestlers started competing in slow-motion, complete with slo-mo "THIS..... IS..... AWE..... SOME...." chants from the crowd.
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Originally posted by ekedolphinReminded me of this moment from CHIKARA, in which two wrestlers started competing in slow-motion, complete with slo-mo "THIS..... IS..... AWE..... SOME...." chants from the crowd.
Watching all these videos, it makes me happy to know that none of these "wrestlers" will ever make more than $75 and a gift certificate to IHOP a month. And if they ever do, I will be so sad about the state of the industry.
I "intensely dislike" the culture/scene of indie wrestling. I don't think I've ever hidden that feeling or how annoying it is when fans think the show is about them and their asinine "insider" chants than what's going on in the ring. "But I paid my money to watch! IcansaywhutevahIwant!" Yeah, you can but not at the expense of the show, in my view. If you don't like the play, movie, whatever...stfu, leave, and don't come back the next time.
I'm not even old enough to remark credibly on the halcyon days when heels and faces went to extreme measures to protect their feuds in public, but I do know that such smark-style matches are an insult to all the work and effort those older wrestlers put in to hone and protect the artform and their livelihoods. It might not "still be real to me, dammit!" but there are bits and pieces that should be.
Knowing the conditions of the scene where some of the wrestlers in that video regularly work, I find it incredibly funny how they can walk into a dressing room, do worked handshakes, speak carny, lament about how all the "untrained 'yarders'" are ruining the scene and business, and kayfabe each other...and then go out and put on such a match--and tape it for distribution, no less. It's just evidence to the idea that these people care more about playing wrestler than actually being one. These are "workers" who would never have even touched the same ring people like Ray Stevens or Harley Race would, much less wrestle in it for 15 or 20 minutes near the top of a card.
I get that there's a market for it, that times are changing, lulz internet, blah blah blah--but I just think that style is dumb, tasteless and insulting.
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Watching all these videos, it makes me happy to know that none of these "wrestlers" will ever make more than $75 and a gift certificate to IHOP a month. And if they ever do, I will be so sad about the state of the industry.
I don't want to get you down, but one of those people in the CHIKARA video was on ECW for many months.
Originally posted by ekedolphinReminded me of this moment from CHIKARA, in which two wrestlers started competing in slow-motion, complete with slo-mo "THIS..... IS..... AWE..... SOME...." chants from the crowd.
Watching all these videos, it makes me happy to know that none of these "wrestlers" will ever make more than $75 and a gift certificate to IHOP a month. And if they ever do, I will be so sad about the state of the industry.
Say hi to CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, CHIKARA alumni, the next time you're at IHOP.
On the question of "exposing the business", a comedy spot on the undercard of an indie show is far less business-exposing to me than Edge/Randy Orton/Shawn Michaels spending what feels like 20 minutes begging and pleading their opponent to get up off the mat, just so they can hit their finisher.
Spots like this do not do anything for me, but since Simmons put it up and it's made the rounds a spot like this will probably end up on a WWE and TNA show sooner rather than later.
The main problem with spots like these is they can be amusing at the bottom of the card or in a comedy match, but the wrestling industry loves to drive a joke into the ground and the next thing you know you've got another stink face or worm spot in every show.
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Far too much Justin Credible. Other than that though, I did like this show. They seem to be building to Sabu shocking a totally unprepared Big Show for his title, which would be very neat And Fertig the Impaler didn't look half bad.
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