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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
Nakamura beat Rusev in a dark match that had massive implications later on when Lana got hurt.

Buddy Murphy and Cable& Roode all successfully defended their titles.

Asuka beat Becky via tap out in a good match that got better late in the game. I'm still not sure why they had Becky tap and not go the full Austin and have her pass out.

Miz and Shane beat the Bar. I refer to Cultaholic and Ross Tweedle on my feelings on the "Best in the World" beating anyone at this point in his life let alone Sheamus and Cesaro.

Rhonda beat Sasha in the Worst Mach of the Night. Fight me. I am not a Rhonda hater, but she looks lost out there at times. If she is leaving after Mania, it maybe for the best. Her matches are the same as Brock ie I take a lot of damage, no sell then hit you with an endless series of moves. Sasha did the best she could out there. Making her loose arm strap into a choking weapon was great.

Becky wins the Women's Rumble after Lana can't make it via her injury from Naka. Fit allows her to be in the match even though his level of command is like a Red Shirt on the Enterprise giving the orders to fire on the Klingons. The original Enterprise btw, no bloody A,B,C or D. Anyway, beats Charlotte and in doing so screwed me out of our Royal Rumble pool. The match was good, but not as great as last year's Rumble. They really have big plans for Lacey.

AJ and Bryan had to fight not only each other and a dead crowd. Bryan wins after Rowan of all people comes out of nowhere to attack AJ. The general feeling in our house is Bryan is getting all the Mountain Men looking people in for a Forest Stable or he is going to make a better Wyatt family than Bray could.

Brock beat Finn. This was a great match until we get a bullshit ending and jobber like beatdown to Finn. I am sorry, but Finn deserved better than this.

Seth won the Rumble after eliminating Braun. Nia and Jeff Jarrett were the big surprises with Nia attacking and be attacked by men. Seth winning is not a giant surprise and that is the real problem with this company.

Minus the boss' son winning the tag titles nothing happened. Yes, we set up Becky/Rhonda and Seth/Lesnar. One of those matches will be my piss break when I'm at Mania and it won't be the one involving Becky. The company is so generic right now that it needs a complete overhaul, you know the one we were promised before Christmas. Instead we got two UFC champs, one who likes to be here, but is getting worse at this and the other has zero desire to be here while being feed all the talent. The show also took six hours long. Six hours for the Rumble not Mania, the Rumble. The matches were either bloated for no reason or too quick to kick into another gear. Its weird that one year ago they had a kick ass show and this year after all this talk of big changes for the better, this was not as good as last year.


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Since: 28.3.11
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.23
It was a real mix of matches and emotions. Well, emotions might be a bit strong so maybe thoughts.

Becky loses cleans and even taps out but wins the Rumble and presumably fights Ronda at Mania. Is that because she is scared of facing Asuka again? How does Charlotte get in to the match to turn it in to a 3 way? Poor Asuka wins this clean and then gets forgotten and ends up with a nothing match at Mania.

Brock v Seth has been expected for a while so not a shocker, even though I hoped for a Finn win. He did well so hope he gets something worth while out of it rather than just being beaten down at the end. Demon v Brock in the next month or so? As long as they don't do the Brock unexpected win at Mania again (apart from me - I called that in the prediction thread!!). Seth winning makes sense but not sure what he will do until Mania. Guessing there will be a 'shot on the line' match against Drew and/or Braun as there are 2 PPVs still to go.

Cruiserweights need to be on the main show. Tag titles are pointless on both brands and only going to be used to stop people wanting to go to AEW when that really gets going. Apart from Shane of course who won because of the surname.

Does Rowan helping Bryan lead to Bryan becoming the new leader of the Wyatt family? Not sure who he will face at Mania but I guess they can build to that with his family members losing a lot along the way. The Bryan Family could end up with a few interesting members along the way if they play with it and let him choose some 'family' members.

Hopefully Raw and Smackdown will be interesting this week. And Vince doesn't do anything on screen. Off screen might be even better
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.54
The big thing is we somehow have TWO pay-per-views between now and WrestleMania to shoehorn Charlotte into the Ronda/Becky match. How do we have another two shows???

I enjoyed both womens' title matches. Asuka and Becky both came off great, Sasha returning to the dark side for a bit was much needed (and showed how she needs to be in more of these big matches), and Ronda again had a decent match.

The womens' Rumble had the right ending but it was a yawnfest to get there. Nothing wrong with the participants - the future women of WWE instead of 15 legends was nice - but the flow was off. They should have moved some people around into different numbers. The mens' Rumble had a better flow and didn't seem like it was dragging on. I enjoyed the Nia bit in it and could see her facing a guy down the line. The women of the company, especially the new ones (Chelsea, Mia Yim) seem especially happy at the idea of intergender appearing. Seth was a good winner, I don't know if there is much story between now and then that could be interesting in him getting to I assume Brock.

Speaking of no story interesting, while the "new" Daniel has been fun, poor AJ gets stuck in these four and five match series that are good matches but diminishing interesting as they go on. Happened with his 50 or so consecutive matches with Nakamura and now he's doing the same with Bryan.

Brock-Finn was fun, the ending was expected though they did give us a glimmer of hope which was good. Finn came out looking good, but would have looked better without the post-match attack.

Both tag matches didn't work for me. Bobby Roode just brings anything down for me, and just make it a triple threat with AOP and Revival instead of the wacky tag partners. And I'm sorry, I can suspend belief for a lot of things in wrestling but big, mighty Sheamus selling Shane's fake as can be punches is not one of them.

The cruiserweight match was, as expected, great. I wish we would have gotten a cruiserweight or two (outside of Ali since he has graduated to SDL) in the Rumble.

Poor Rusev.

Too damn long of a show. I didn't even watch the preshow live and I was burnt out when the woman's Rumble was over at the three hour mark. I sat out Bryan-AJ, came back on sleep meds for the last two matches and still left before the final eliminations of the Rumble.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21
Thanks for the results.

For the 2nd year running, I found myself in a situation where I could watch the Rumble live - given that Sunday night PPVs are Monday morning here. But also for the 2nd year running I didn't remember until after the event had started so I didn't worry about subscribing to the network and setting up apps, etc.

So I missed it.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.09
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Seth won the Rumble after eliminating Braun. Nia and Jeff Jarrett were the big surprises with Nia attacking and be attacked by men. Seth winning is not a giant surprise and that is the real problem with this company.

Eh, I don't know about that. The wrong people winning would be a bigger problem. There's been years when we've gotten SWERVE~!s just because the winner was predictable that led to convoluted matches at the February PPVs for title shots, and then three-way matches at Mania.

The deserving winner winning straight up is the better result nearly all the time.

That said, another boring Rumble. I can't imagine being Vince McMahon and needing to book another year of this with practically every single finish booking possibility being exhausted.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.37
    Originally posted by andy1278
    The big thing is we somehow have TWO pay-per-views between now and WrestleMania to shoehorn Charlotte into the Ronda/Becky match. How do we have another two shows??


Why do you need to shoehorn in Charlotte? She gets a rematch with Asuka from WM in 2018 as Asuka tried to avenge her loss from a year ago to the woman who ended her streak. That's a pretty obvious and straightforward story there.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
      Originally posted by andy1278
      The big thing is we somehow have TWO pay-per-views between now and WrestleMania to shoehorn Charlotte into the Ronda/Becky match. How do we have another two shows??


    Why do you need to shoehorn in Charlotte? She gets a rematch with Asuka from WM in 2018 as Asuka tried to avenge her loss from a year ago to the woman who ended her streak. That's a pretty obvious and straightforward story there.


Exactly. That gives you two marquis women's matches for WrestleMania instead of one. Obviously, Lynch/Rousey is the biggest, and they should definitely put that match on last. They may never get another opportunity where both of the women in a title match have the heat and prestige necessary to close out the night.

I thought both Rumbles were good, not great. The women's Rumble had a lot of spots that would have been awesome if they'd pulled them off correctly, and suffered from an overflow of low talent in the early stages, but by the time they got down to the final third, everything was clicking p. well and the Becky stuff went over big. The men's Rumble had some of the same problems, but overall having Rollins, Gargano, and Ali in there early really made a lot of it work, and Andrade also had a really great showing. Neither Rumble was as good as either of last year's, but neither was as bad as any of the, what, 4?, Rumbles prior to those, so I'll take them.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
I'm really enjoying Nikki Cross. Underneath the crazy, she's cute. She's such a break from the Bayleys and Sashas out there. They should have done a crazed fan from the crowd angle to introduce her. They haven't done that since Earthquake or I guess, Santino.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.92
Great show, I thought. Did not see Jeff Jarrett coming. I'm pretty sure that was his first WWE match since October 17, 1999, when he lost the Intercontinental Title to Chyna under the controversial one-day contract.

(Though he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, and appeared on Table for 3 with Road Dogg and Elias).

    Originally posted by ekedolphin, the predictions thread
    30-Man Royal Rumble Match: Gotta be Rollins, right?

    30-Woman Royal Rumble Match: I say Becky Lynch gets into the Rumble and wins it.

    Brock Lesnar vs. Finn Balor, Universal Championship Match: Lesnar retains, but Balor puts on a hell of a show. Can we please get the belt off of Lesnar soon, though?

    Daniel Bryan vs. A.J. Styles, WWE Championship Match: Bryan wins and retains.

    Ronda Rousey vs. Sasha Banks, Raw Women's Championship Match: Rousey retains. Can we get a new Raw Women's Champion soon, while we're at it? (But at least Rousey is on TV every week.)

    Asuka vs. Becky Lynch, Smackdown Women's Championship Match: Asuka retains, therefore Lynch goes into the Rumble.

    The Bar vs. Shane McMahon & The Miz, Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match: Miz and Shane. What's the endgame here?

    Rusev vs. Shinsuke Nakamura, United States Championship: Rusev retains.

    Buddy Murphy vs. Hideo Itami vs. Akira Tozawa vs. Kalisto, Cruiserweight Championship: I'll say Tozawa wins the belt here.


The only ones I got wrong were on the pre-show. SHOWER ME WITH PRAISE!

People on another board I go to are figuring they'll throw Charlotte into the RAW Women's Championship match at WrestleMania so that Becky can beat her and Rousey can leave WWE without ever being pinned or made to submit. I hope they're wrong. That would be very fucking annoying.

(edited by ekedolphin on 29.1.19 1817)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.54
I personally prefer them to NOT shoehorn Charlotte in, but I could absolutely see them doing it.

Double J was cool. He's officially a producer for WWE now, so it was a cool welcome back.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.19
I liked their use of JJ as well, I thought that was fun. I thought Seth's elimination of Elias was interesting and unique, too -- Elias struggling to hold onto the wider ring post/signpost and Seth just slapping his hands over Elias's to make him let go.

The one thing the Rumble told me, though, was that the current crop of entry music sucks. Very few of them are memorable or unique. They need to fix that.

I hadn't seen Pete Dunne before; he looks interesting but I'm not sure the Royal Rumble was the best place to display his talents for the first time on a big stage.

EDIT: One other comment. Kurt Angle needs to hang 'em up before he hurts himself or someone else. He has no business being out there.

(edited by Hokienautic on 30.1.19 1116)
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.61
I will never-never-never go to a stadium show again.

I expected that there would probably be a few glitches & problems to be ironed out, since this (as I understand) is the first time that they've ever tried to set up in a dedicated baseball stadium. This was a logistical nightmare to be at live.

Note that I was at WM at the Cardinals' football stadium in Glendale several years ago. So I do have a base of reference for comparison other than just the arena buildings. And I've been in on baseball season tickets for the Diamondbacks in several different parts of the stadium, & have a pretty good idea where the good seats are for that. This ... was just awful.

The ring was set up out beyond where second base would be for baseball. They didn't give any indication where they were going to put the ring when seats went on sale. I assumed that they'd put the ring generally about the pitcher's mound, & possibly set up some kind of bleacher seating out into the outfield. Nope, the ring was way out beyond second base. The ring was a million miles away from any raised seating. (The *entire* infield was dead-flat floor seating. I can't imagine what that would have been like.)

My front row, second level seat above the inner end of the visitor's dugout is great for baseball. Even with binoculars,
there was no hope of actually being able to watch a wrestling match. Even if the sightline hadn't been obstructed.

They'd build a huge scaffolding structure to hold up the lighting rig & tv screens above the ring. I mean seriously huge. Also meaning that the legs had to be really wide. Wide enough to block a third of the diagonal width of the ring from where I was. This is a seriously obstructed view, & it wasn't just for a handful of seats. But wait.

They decided to put some spotlights high up on that structure, which they could sweep across the crowd for dramatic effect. And the "resting" position of those spotlights were pointed directly into the 2nd & 3rd level audience. Meaning, stare into the direct bright light, while trying to see around the scaffolding, to try to even see if there's somebody in the ring. And they didn't even turn these spotlights off during matches. (Did I mention that bright, glaring lights are a migraine trigger for me?) There was a major "Turn the light out" chant from both upper decks, & it still took them several matches to try to figure out something to do.

And for all this joy, my seat cost $220 + fees + tax ... total USD $277.96. Not a damn thing about this was acceptable.

I did go to customer service. I will say, they did the best they could by moving me to another location which was unobstructed. So at least I had a chance to see something with the binoculars. (I feel for those customer service reps, who were not having a fun day.) But there was nothing to be done about the fact that everything other than ringside seating was miles away.

So ... alternating between binoculars & trying to watch on the big screens, while thinking how much more pleasant it would be to be watching the up-close camera feed from the comfort of my own home.

And then we get to the first Rumble match. To find that they're dedicating every screen in the building to 10 seconds of countdown clock, followed by the entrant's name &/or entrance video. Which is to say, the best way to try to actually see the ring was completely obscured for about 30 seconds for every entrant.

I have absolutely zero experience of having seen anything in this entire show. I haven't had time to watch it on the network yet, so I have zero impressions of the show itself. There was absolutely no value whatsoever in being there live. And I'll never do that kind of venue again. (But WWE, congratulations on your 48K attendance number.)

I can say that NXT on Saturday was great -- I'd never really watched NXT before, & that was the most fun of all 4 shows. Raw was all sorts of interesting to be at live -- the Rhonda Rousey situation live was unlike pretty much anything I've ever seen! (Way moreso than what came across on TV -- it's amazing how much "the monkeys in the truck" can do in realtime!) SmackDown was fun -- even though we had the (inevitable) Daniel Bryan talking segment, getting to be there to help chant for Daisy was fun. And the love for Becky is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen at WWE -- she is absolutely The Man !!!
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21
    Originally posted by emma
    I will never-never-never go to a stadium show again.

    ...


That was pretty much exactly why I didn't go to Super Showdown or Guns n Roses at the MCG (despite living walking distance from the venue) . Unless you're there to watch watch the stadium was built for, 99% of the seats are going to be crap.

Been to too many underwhelming stadium shows where you'd be better off staying home and watching it on TV.

WWE is great in a 15k place though



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
It seems like WWE have gone overboard with the rigging around the ring, the huge scaffolding around it.
For a few years now I had the feeling it'd suck at WM too.

It's a shame because the show was fun.
But like this, thre's no joy to be had at all.

The way Becky entered the RR was cool. Finley actually giving the go-ahead. Balor should've tried the same.
Fit is obviously a sucker for smiling irish eyes.

At some point the talent in the Men Rumble was insane.
DUnne, Andrade, Rey, etc etc. All guys that can put on 5-star matches every night if wanted/needed.
Jeff Jarrett (did I spell that right?) and Elias were funny.
Brian-AJ was rather pedestrian, I hoped for more.
the SD tag match was...meh...obvious outcome and I really don't care.
Becky-Asuka was good, and Brock-Balor was fun.

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