You know what, I've got nothing much to say (besides that it was, if not the best, almost unquestionably the funniest episode of the season) - I just wanted to make damn sure that was the thread title. Because seriously.
(Especially because "tell her it's for Creed - she'll know what that means" is probably too long.)
I was afraid that Michael In The Woods would be another instance of the Michael As (Bad) Homer Simpson roll that the show's been on at times, but it was actually kept reasonable - and funny.
Meanwhile, Jim owned in the office. The slow build to "Michael...um, Jim" was fabulous, including Pam knowing what she was doing all along. His bug eyes made my night.
Michael was more like Homer in this episode than any other. Cutting his clothes up to make a hat, eating poisonous mushrooms, and building a tent with his cut up clothes when he already said he was cold...didn't work for me. He's getting too unrealistic.
The stuff at the office was great, though. Mr. A. Knife will have a folder in our office come tomorrow.
Originally posted by The King of KeithMichael was more like Homer in this episode than any other. Cutting his clothes up to make a hat, eating poisonous mushrooms, and building a tent with his cut up clothes when he already said he was cold...didn't work for me. He's getting too unrealistic.
While I prefer Michael in the office, I thought the different outfits and his tent were both pretty funny.
I don't think this episode was as "laugh out loud" funny as other episodes. However, it really established the fact that Michael's managerial style is just as much a product of dealing with his employees' dysfunctions as it is his own issues.
I still think, thus far, this season is lacking a solid plot line compared to the previous seasons - but the writers may have predicted that this season would be interrupted by the strike, so hopefully they have a plan either way.
I really wasn't impressed with the episode. I've never seen the real 'Survivor Man', so maybe I'm missing out on some of the jokes. It was just to over the top for me.
The parts in the actual office with all the other characters was great as usual. The return of Michael was also well done, as was Jim seeing into his future.
Average episode for sure, but it had some really good moments.
I actually enjoyed that that showed a side of Jim that was actually unappealing. He was a party pooper. I think that is good character development, and makes him seem like more than just the average nice guy surrounded by idiots.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
The last couple weeks have been interesting because they've shown Michael as out of touch as ever, yet at the same time reinforcing the idea that he somehow, through luck or instinct or whatever, ends up doing his job better than anyone else who might try to do it.
I plan on setting up a file at my desk today for Mr. A. Knife.
Originally posted by LeroyI still think, thus far, this season is lacking a solid plot line compared to the previous seasons - but the writers may have predicted that this season would be interrupted by the strike, so hopefully they have a plan either way.
I've actually been pretty impressed with the stories so far (boss Ryan, sympathetic Dwight and Andy/Angela, humble pie for Halpert), because each year I've wondered how they're going to come back from making a major change like Jim/Pam and each time they've got some unique new stuff.
This wasn't my favorite episode though. It may've been my favorite 30 Rock, however. GREENZO OUT.
30 Rock is unwatchable and unfunny. It has never, and will never, be better than the Office.
Solid, solid episode. I echo the sentiments about few laugh-out-louds (normally the Office has me going almost constantly) but everything was definitely amusing. I also agree that I like the major plotlines they do have running so far. Every one of them had a little bit (Ryan's snubbing of Michael, Angela getting the ice cream cake Andy wanted) despite it being a stand-alone Michael-centric episode.
I personally don't get the "too Homer-ish" comments people have had for Michael lately. He's not acting any different than he ever has - the situations are just much more ripe for mayhem.
Mr. A Knife was by far the funniest moment of the show for me. Kudos on the title selection, heh. I also liked the fact that Jim acted like any normal boss would, but in Scranton that doesn't work. The place isn't dysfunctional simply because of Michael. Bonus points for continuing the "bosses hate HR reps" bit through Jim's anti-Toby talking head too, heh. I also liked the conversation Jim and Michael had at the end, although I am praying to god they don't go on a "Jim has career regrets" thing.
Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoI really wasn't impressed with the episode. I've never seen the real 'Survivor Man', so maybe I'm missing out on some of the jokes. It was just to over the top for me.
Agreed. I've seen the real 'Survivor Man' ("Man vs. Wild"? I forget), and I still didnt think any of the woods stuff was funny. I think what makes this show the funniest for me is to see all of these wacky characters (to varying degrees) interact with each other. Especially the ones that get along, like Oscar & Kevin, and every once in awhile when Stanley smiles or makes someone else smile. Sometimes too much of one character by him/herself gets dull for me though.
The parts in the actual office with all the other characters was great as usual.
Agreed again (see above), although I still felt cheated that we didnt get to see more of that.
The return of Michael was also well done, as was Jim seeing into his future.
Agreed3 (Agr33d? I dont know). I'm actually looking forward to "Jim has career/life regrets", if they go there. They've already planted the seeds with Pam chasing her graphic design & animation dreams, and his not following his sportswriter & guitar player dreams. It also adds another dimension to his character that most of us can probably relate to, and being able to relate to so much of what happens on the show is what got me watching in the first place.
Also, I didnt think I would like 30 Rock when it first started, but I'm completely hooked now. That is a funny ass show.
Even on SNL, I couldn't get into Tracey Morgan, and I still feel that way. But I have always loved Tina Fey (and not just in a professional manner), and Alec Baldwin is a god, so it evens out. Better than The Office? I don't think so but it makes for quite an hour of TV.
What I forgot to mention earlier was what was up with Jim in the last scene? He looked bummed after thinking that he might be there in 10 years, but then was all smiles during the "That's what she said" exchange. Was he breaking character and laughing, or accepting his fate?
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
My main complaint about The Office has always been Michael Scott. He has so often tripped over the line between funny and just plain awkward. This season has been different, for the most part; honestly, I prefer Michael being away from human contact (and yes, being Homer-ish), than interacting with people in a nonsensical fashion that is more uncomfortable than funny.
That said, Jim's storyline went a good distance towards making Michael less-cartoony.
EDIT: 30 Rock is so good. The party scene & aftermath were just.... so good. Also, foxy boxing combines my two favorite things.
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I would like to point out that the three episodes bandied about as the best/funniest throughout the entire run of the Office (Diversity Day, The Injury, A Benihana Christmas) all feature Michael front-and-center at his "Homer Simpson" best.
Originally posted by JustinShapiroI've actually been pretty impressed with the stories so far (boss Ryan, sympathetic Dwight and Andy/Angela, humble pie for Halpert), because each year I've wondered how they're going to come back from making a major change like Jim/Pam and each time they've got some unique new stuff.
I'm not to the point where I think they've "jumped the shark". I think the first few episodes of this season were great at establishing the major plot points. I just think we've moved away from that a little more than I would like.
Originally posted by BoromirMarkI would like to point out that the three episodes bandied about as the best/funniest throughout the entire run of the Office (Diversity Day, The Injury, A Benihana Christmas) all feature Michael front-and-center at his "Homer Simpson" best.
I can relate each of those episodes (and more) to a real experience I've had working in an office. That's the part that's really missing for me in the last two episodes. It ain't just about Michael acting goofy - it's about him acting goofy in a way I can relate.
Originally posted by BoromirMarkI personally don't get the "too Homer-ish" comments people have had for Michael lately. He's not acting any different than he ever has - the situations are just much more ripe for mayhem.
Michael getting upset about a seminar on sexual harassment or even burning his foot on a grill is a long way from kidnapping a pizza delivery guy or dressing in a fake mustache and attempting to steal an expensive copier from another branch of his own company. He's always been a bit out there, and that's okay, but there are times when the unbelievability threatens the show's credibility. Crying over an ex-girlfriend and giving a waitress (or her "identical" friend) his bike is not one. Threatening to run away on a train and live as a hobo comes much closer.
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All the critics received 3 episodes to screen and they say the 3rd episode picks up the pace. With Raw being boring and Revolution STILL on hiatus (till next week!), it's something to watch on Mondays.
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