OK, the situation here is that while most players are really shrugging this off as no big deal, some players are NOT feeling this at all. AI is the most vocal against it (as expected) b/c he says it sends a bad message to kids and it makes the players look fake. Stephen Jackson says it's racist. Tim Duncan is also very against it saying that it's gone too far.
From what I've seen from some message boards and others, this is David Stern's way of continuing "de-hiphopping and corporatizing" the NBA. In addition, the opinion is also this probably wouldn't even be happening if Ron Artest didn't flip out in Detroit last season.
I think the NBA is going to make a whole lotta $$ from violations of this code here this season - most probably from Iverson's pockets.
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"The way I feel right now, I'd trade my mother if the right deal came along." -- Isiah Thomas.
Personally, I think there should be a betting pool in Vegas to who the first guy who pulls a Derrick Coleman (e.g. sending a blank check to the NBA for all current and future dress code fines) with this. Early candidates include Jackson, Jason Richardson, Paul Pierce and Lamar Odom.
Iverson, however, looks like he's going to play ball with it:
Originally posted by AI in the San Jose MN "Once they start talking about suspending me, then I don't have a choice. I don't want them to take my money, either. I don't want to just give my money away. That's just like taking it and burning it."
Fortunately, though, Shaq's Al Capone fedoras were not outlawed.
(edited by Blanket Jackson on 20.10.05 1402) "He's too much of gentleman to assume that the lady he is with would have a disease and he's man enough to raise any offspring that should arise. HE IS AL WILSON."[-DEAN~, 7/22/05]
Allen Iverson is an idiot, Stephen Jackson is an idiot, Marcus "If the NBA is going to impose a dress code, they should give us a stipend in addition to our salaries for clothes" Camby is an idiot, and I find Tim Duncan's stance against the dress code surprising, but I should stop pretending like I really know him.
Surprisingly enough, the voice of reason so far has been Kobe Bryant's: "They're just clothes".
Hey, wait. If they're not in uniform they have to wear a sport coat *during* the game? That's going to look awkward on the bench.
In the real world, WWE believes that no matter what our race, religious creed or ethnic background in America, we all share the common bond of being Americans. American-Arabs are a part of the fabric of America, and they should be embraced by all of us.
Welcome to the Corporate Working World. My employer has a dress code here at work and though I don't like the fact that I have to wear a suit & tie every day, I do it. I could go work some place that allows casual attire but it's a good job and it pays well so I play by the rules.
Looks like Jo Dee Messina wants to fight Gretchen Wilson for Shelby Lynne's old seat at the end of the bar down at the Last Call Bar & Grill.....
Well, Marcus Camby is the biggest idiot of them all, but was there this big of a flap with the WWE's dress code (which begs the question of if it's even still in effect)? Sorry to get wrestling in your basketball forum, but I don't mind it; besides, no one's saying you have to go to, say, Men's Wearhouse to get your clothes.
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.
"...but that doesn't mean he can't relate an amusing anecdote about the Haiti Kid and one of the Frenchman's testicles." (Hogan's My Dad)
Let me the only person in the universe to (partially) defend Marcus Camby.
They have a Collective Bargining agreement, and an enviorment where if one side always gets something back when it gives something up. If there's going to be new requirements on the players, it's only fair to expect the players to get something back.
I was thinking more 'two days less of training camp' than a clothes budget, and Camby could've easily phrased that better.
Originally posted by drjayphdWell, Marcus Camby is the biggest idiot of them all, but was there this big of a flap with the WWE's dress code (which begs the question of if it's even still in effect)?
Originally posted by dunkndollazWelcome to the Corporate Working World. My employer has a dress code here at work and though I don't like the fact that I have to wear a suit & tie every day, I do it.
Does the dress code also apply to management? The NBA one doesn't. Mark Cuban can turn up in jeans and a T, but the guys who play for him can't. I think Cuban said the dress code isn't necessary as a league mandated thing, each team should set out what they expect from their players. That would make more sense to me.
Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
Fortunately, though, Shaq's Al Capone fedoras were not outlawed
3. Excluded Items . . . Headgear of any kind while a player is sitting on the bench or in the stands at a game, during media interviews, or during a team or league event or appearance (unless appropriate for the event or appearance, team-identified, and approved by the team)
Originally posted by MercDoes the dress code also apply to management? The NBA one doesn't. Mark Cuban can turn up in jeans and a T, but the guys who play for him can't. I think Cuban said the dress code isn't necessary as a league mandated thing, each team should set out what they expect from their players. That would make more sense to me.
Yes it does apply to management but management does not own the company - the shareholders do and the shareholders can wear whatever they like.
Looks like Jo Dee Messina wants to fight Gretchen Wilson for Shelby Lynne's old seat at the end of the bar down at the Last Call Bar & Grill.....
"Young black kids dress like NBA players. Unfortunately, they don't get paid like NBA players. So when they go out in the real world, what they wear is held against them.
"See, these players make $10 million to $15 million a year, so nobody cares how they dress. But regular black kids go out into the real world and how they dress is held against them.
"If a well-dressed white kid and a black kid wearing a do-rag and throwback jersey came to me in a job interview, I'd hire the white kid. That's reality. That's the No. 1 reason I support the dress code."
The biggest outrage in all of this is the white-bread sports media's use of the word "bling". There ought to be a law against that
FLEA
Demonstrations are a drag. Besides, we're much too high
Originally posted by RYDER FAKINThe biggest outrage in all of this is the white-bread sports media's use of the word "bling". There ought to be a law against that
FLEA
Right on, Flea! Finally, somebody gets to the root of the problem!
Probably a bit early in the season to be talking too much about the 2010 All-Star Game, but as I'm just about to submit my ballot, I thought I'd review it here, and open a thread for anyone who wishes to share theirs.