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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.65
    Originally posted by Stefonics
    No offense but if you think that John Cena, The Face That Runs The Place, thought that putting Owens over clean for the US Title was the best way to go, but was shot down by Vince, you're high. Especially with the newz about Cena putting the kibosh on 3/4 Horsewomen taking out the Bellas as their debut. Cena put on some phenomenal matches against guys who need that spotlight on them, but he's just like every other top-wrestler in the history of professional wrestling; he will protect his "image/legacy" to the death, even if protecting it is worse for the company. And the fuckery of it all is that the people in charge, the people who write the checks, go along with those top-guys.


No offense taken, but the same could be said for believing every rumor you read online.

Literally every single thing we've heard about Nikki Bella's reign for the last 8 months is that the goal is for her to break AJ Lee's title record, so this new "Oh, John Cena hates the new Divas and is stickin' his nose where it don't belong and why Charlotte isn't holding that stupid looking butterfly belt!" rumor comes off as a total non-sequitur, contradicting all of that.

Even if Meltzer's reporting it (EDIT: and the source I saw was wrestlezone.com), it's inconsistent with every other instance of "Vince wants Nikki Bella to beat AJ Lee's streak." Maybe Nikki's at where she is because of her relationship with Cena, but they've been sticking with her because Vince is petty. It's his call.

And, as someone who lived through both Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan, John Cena isn't anywhere near as bad as they were. Rollins hasn't been beating anyone clean except for Dean Ambrose. Even if he beat Cena clean, that still wouldn't help him.

Cena is one of the few things they have going for them. It's not his fault that WWE's ideas of Cena successors have involved Sheamus and Roman Reigns. (Also, he lost last night and has lost 5 SummerSlams in a row now).

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 24.8.15 0747)
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      Originally posted by Stefonics
      No offense but if you think that John Cena, The Face That Runs The Place, thought that putting Owens over clean for the US Title was the best way to go, but was shot down by Vince, you're high. Especially with the newz about Cena putting the kibosh on 3/4 Horsewomen taking out the Bellas as their debut. Cena put on some phenomenal matches against guys who need that spotlight on them, but he's just like every other top-wrestler in the history of professional wrestling; he will protect his "image/legacy" to the death, even if protecting it is worse for the company. And the fuckery of it all is that the people in charge, the people who write the checks, go along with those top-guys.


    No offense taken, but the same could be said for believing every rumor you read online.

    Literally every single thing we've heard about Nikki Bella's reign for the last 8 months is that the goal is for her to break AJ Lee's title record, so this new "Oh, John Cena hates the new Divas and is stickin' his nose where it don't belong and why Charlotte isn't holding that stupid looking butterfly belt!" rumor comes off as a total non-sequitur, contradicting all of that.

    Even if Meltzer's reporting it (EDIT: and the source I saw was wrestlezone.com), it's inconsistent with every other instance of "Vince wants Nikki Bella to beat AJ Lee's streak." Maybe Nikki's at where she is because of her relationship with Cena, but they've been sticking with her because Vince is petty. It's his call.

    And, as someone who lived through both Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan, John Cena isn't anywhere near as bad as they were. Rollins hasn't been beating anyone clean except for Dean Ambrose. Even if he beat Cena clean, that still wouldn't help him.

    Cena is one of the few things they have going for them. It's not his fault that WWE's ideas of Cena successors have involved Sheamus and Roman Reigns. (Also, he lost last night and has lost 5 SummerSlams in a row now).

    (edited by SKLOKAZOID on 24.8.15 0747)


Cena killed Nexus. We know this to be true. Nexus which was the hottest angle they had in years. He went out there and murdered it, because he could. So, the idea he nixed the 4 Horsemen and didn't want to lose to the US title seems well within his reach. I like Cena the person. He seems to be a great guy and funny. Cena in the WWE world feels like the high school Quarterback who if he doesn't get his way pouts around til the teachers or coaches give in. He is going to be the 16 time champion then the 17, 18, 19 and so on til he either jumps to Hollywood or they have to screw job him or he gets bored and quits.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
    Originally posted by andy1278

    A double countout, really? Come on.


I thought this was the right call. I mean Ziggler has been away with an "injury" so he's barely been in the feud. Plus this feud has intergender tag match writeen all over it so the feud had to continue.

    Originally posted by Tenken347
    I'm glad the New Day are champs again, and I'd kind of like to see them feud with Ambrose and Reigns.



Yes, please. As long as Reigns/Ambrose, Wyatt/Harper and Barrett/Stardust are all buds just put them in the tag division and have a real tag division already. I could also get behind a Prime Time Players/Reigns/Ambrose vs. New Day/Stardust/Barrett Survivor Series match come November. I could see the PTP fitting in with Reigns/Ambrose bromance and New Day/Stardust/Barrett interviews would be a ton of fun.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.65
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Cena killed Nexus. We know this to be true. Nexus which was the hottest angle they had in years. He went out there and murdered it, because he could. So, the idea he nixed the 4 Horsemen and didn't want to lose to the US title seems well within his reach.


We all know Cena killed Nexus with that dumb finish idea. That's common knowledge. That was also 5 years ago. (There were also mitigating factors like Vince wanting Cena to go over and Cena apologizing because his finish idea was so dumb. Team Cena winning also helped establish that Daniel Bryan "could hang" with Cena and put him on the map for something other than choking Justin Roberts, so it wasn't all bad. Also, Barrett not beating Orton at Survivor Series was the point of no return.)

And, to write a "Cena doesn't want to drop the US Title" post the night after he dropped the US Title is a little detached. He consistently worked the midcard with that belt (even in the match he lost it in) and even lost a match clean.

Why would he care about the friggin' US Title belt? Is it because he made it more valuable than the world title? That's not a very good argument against John Cena.

It's obvious that WWE treats Cena better than anyone else. It's also obvious that he pulls better numbers than anyone else. That's not a coincidence. Brock gets the same treatment for the same reason. It took them a while to get it with Brock, but his value earns him his protection.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 24.8.15 0832)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
Sklokazoid when I read it, it was with several grains of salt. But it fits with the pro-wrestling version of John Cena. I didn't have to slightly stretch or need to break out the tin foil while reading it. I also didn't take it as Charlotte was going to take the Purple Butterfly, but more like John didn't want the shiny new toys to be the new hotness in the division thus taking the shine off of his lady. Or maybe she asked him to say something. Or maybe it never happened at all. I believe it did. Regardless, Nikki is going to break AJ's Streak. Even with the newz, I never questioned that. I've also been through HBK and Hogan; Cena, to me, is worse. He puts on this act that he loves everything WWE and says just enough of the right things to make people believe that he cares about the future of the company, most recently his putting over of Cesaro. But then throws his hands up when those guys don't get over and says, "Well, I tried. Nothing else I can do." As he says often, he's The Face That Runs The Place. If he truly has no influence, why even try to put others over?
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.65
    Originally posted by Stefonics
    As he says often, he's The Face That Runs The Place. If he truly has no influence, why even try to put others over?


I never said he had no influence. Just that who wins/loses is Vince's call. And his influence, more times than people care to admit, usually works in favor of the other guy. If it wasn't for Cena, Vince would have given up on Cesaro a long time ago. Cena still wins, but he makes sure to give Cesaro a memorable performance.

Cena lost to Rollins dirty last night for three reasons:

A) Because Vince wants to keep the belt on Rollins, but to protect Cena.

B) To give Jon Stewart something to do.

C) Because, unless the opponent is Dean Ambrose, Rollins is positioned as an illegitimate heel champion who wins dirty. This his character right now, before or after Cena. Rollins isn't beating Brock clean, he isn't beating Cena clean, he isn't beating Undertaker clean.

Even if Cena campaigned to lose to Rollins clean (he probably didn't and that's not his responsibility), it would have been nixed because Jon Stewart was to be worked into the finish no matter what.

All right, I'm done for now.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
How how how how how do you not show Charles Robinson calling for the bell at the actual end of the match? What a terrible directing job.

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
Jon Stewart's reasoning was even more painfully obvious than the time keeper's reasoning last night, but it seems almost everybody missed both telegraphs.

John Cena was wearing black. Seth Rollins was wearing white. Stewart, as the authority figure, was making a statement about institutional racism.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.61
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    It's one thing if they'd set it up somehow, like HHH is so into this big rematch that he'd brought in Celebrity Timekeeper Jennifer Aniston and Special Guest Ring Announcer Arnold Schwarzenegger and then Aniston, mostly unfamiliar with the rules, accidentally rang the bell and Scharzenegger announced "Brake Layznah" the winner so everything fell apart under HHH's own hubris over this big match.

I have to say, if you want to do that goofy-ass timekeeper finish, this HHH hubris/Match Too Big For WrestleMania/overreaching, incompetent celebrity time keeper idea is actually kind of a brilliant way to do it, maybe the only way to do it that doesn't involve doing an Evil Referee Danny Davis angle with a Heel Timekeeper who becomes a wrestler with a Clock King gimmick. Also, you can have Cole bring up Jennifer Aniston's recent marriage to Justin Theroux and have JBL says "Well, I'd say Brock Lesnar just got Theroux-ly screwed tonight, too, Maggle!"

Wow, so, maybe don't do the horribly booked real show the night after the expertly booked fake show ever again, right?

Big, potentially interesting angles they created and then ignored/forgot/dropped/outright blew up: Cena "making" somebody via the US Title, The Stephanie McMahon Presents The Divas Revolution, The Authority angle, paying off Brock breaking The Streak by having Brock make somebody.

Cool stuff:
-New Day is perfect. This can't last, but something like this is never allowed to last, but they are awesome and a shining example of letting talented guys get themselves over.

-Titus wrecking guys. I don't know how much Titus has in the tank, but I've loved the guy since his NXT Season and he's the perfect Big Guy tag wrestler and a blast on commentary, the Stevie Ray we always wanted but never deserved.

-Either Diego effortlessly and brilliantly diving in to save a potentially blown Tower of Doom spot, or booking that to look like Diego effortlessly and brilliantly dove in to save a potentially blown Tower of Doom spot as a cover for Kofi making the blind tag for the finish. I don't know which of those scenarios is actually what happened, but whichever one it was, that's great.

-If they'd stop having every notable PPV have an "all the teams get a title shot!" booking philosophy and actually built to tag title matches by having the contenders contend instead of wrestling the champs constantly, the pieces are in place for a great tag division of New Day/PTP/Lucha Dragons, with Matadors as enhancement and putting together a few more pieces of underused singles guys/NXT teams.

-Rollins and his Captain EO outfit. Holy shit.

-Seth Rollins. He is every bit as good as his booking has been bad. That guy. Man. That guy. You literally could not ask for someone better in the ring. All the skill, talent, athleticism, selling ability, speed and shocking raw power in the world. It would take an extraordinary lack of skill on someone's behalf to have a bad match with Seth Rollins. Nothing but superlatives for him and what he's done when free of the weight of 20 tons of Corporate Kane/Super Cena/Cool Heel HHH and Stephanie madness tied around his feet.

-I feel good for Undertaker getting to have that match he wanted to have with Brock.

-Brock flipping the Defiant Gesture was cool.

Not cool stuff:

-They basically have to do a hard reset on the women now, right? The "let's have Stephanie do this!" shit was a spectacular misfire that inadvertently set them all up to fail, essentially whiffing on the debuts of three surefire talents at once instead of just one at a time like they had been doing. Not bringing up Becky/Sasha/Charlotte as a unit, or not having Paige bring them up herself and then immediately regretting having brought in three killers who were going to turn on her for their own agendas at first opportunity, in service of their asinine love of "Team ____" and HHH giving the credit for the women to Stephanie as an anniversary present or whatever happened led to them forgetting to book a women's match for Summerslam until two weeks before and means you kind of have to reintroduce Sasha, Becky and Charlotte as actual people now, since you forgot to do it in the first place, which is crazy since Banks and Charlotte come in with fully-formed characters to back up their obvious in-ring skill, and Becky is, I don't know, Lita From The Year 3000 or some shit and I like her even better than the others anyway because I like good wrestling and red hair I guess.

Anyway, send Stephanie down to NXT to work on her Presentation.

-The finish to Rollins/Cena. Wow. Huh. "Jon Stewart turns heel" feels like one of those things that one of us here would book, which justifies not letting one of us book a real wrestling promotion. Shame that Stewart pulled off one of the best contract signing promos of all time and then puts in one of the worst physically-acted turns. Not gonna act like I'm not fascinated by this going somewhere, but again, people don't book my dumb but intricately plotted time travel angles, so don't book dumb, poorly-plotted comedian turns heel in a world title match angles. Or at least run it by me first. Slide into my private messages, weird-o WWE employee lurkers. I'll proofread your work.

-Screw off with Cena getting the visual pin on Rollins. He beat him clean on TV in the last month. In what universe does he need that? Who does that help?

-The Undertaker/Brock finish. Uh, what? How did the timekeeper even see Undertaker tapping out from that angle? What? And we're really getting Brock/Undertaker at WrestleMania again? What are they doing with Lesnar? Why, on any of this?

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I don't even think Cena would want that. He had no problem losing tonight, nor to Owens clean. He seems like someone who'd want to use this angle to enhance his legacy as a guy who puts on great matches and gives his opponents a lot of offense.

I mean, that's exactly what he used this angle for: to get some great matches with beloved guys under his belt for the sake of his legacy. This was Cena the wrestling fan making sure he has some matches he can throw into the mix to counter any workrate marks when it comes time for an internet message board debate about his first ballot Observer Hall of Fame status. It really was the John Cena Indy Worker Fantasy Camp. He went away for the summer and got to hit some served-up homeruns off Pedro and Clemens.

I don't think Cena is anywhere near the political monster that HHH has always been, and I don't care about that Nikki rumor at all in terms of this discussion, but for as plugged-in a dude as Cena is, he's always been remarkably shortsighted about his own booking and the value that looking vulnerable and actually putting over other guys would have for his character and the business by extension. HHH routinely buried guys out of spite and fear and jealousy; he essentially cost himself money in the long run by ushering in the end of the boom because he's a mark for himself. Cena routinely buries guys because he just doesn't care enough or isn't self-aware enough to use the power he must have to fix things. He deserves credit and respect for stopping the bleeding on the Reign of Terra Era, but man, from 2010 on, imagine a more big picture, smarter, cagier Cena really looking at the potential of the Nexus angle, then Rock main event program, then Punk, then Bryan vs. Authority and realizing that he could have been the trigger that set off a "new boom" if he'd lobbied harder to honestly, fully make those guys look stronger and provided even the tiniest depth, shading and development to his character.

I've said it before, but it's true: people are dying to openly love wrestling again. An updated version of that mainstream/crossover appeal they want so badly has been there for the taking since the Pipebomb Promo, well within their reach and not some bullshit brass ring they love to talk about. All they have to do at the top is not do the things they've been doing since, like, 2006. And all they do at the top is keep doing the things at the top they've been doing since 2006.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely

    -New Day is perfect. This can't last, but something like this is never allowed to last, but they are awesome and a shining example of letting talented guys get themselves over.


To hear New Day tell it (on Talk Is Jericho), Vince McMahon legitimately thought they were destined to blow up as a super popular babyface group. They knew better and got themselves over despite the office's best efforts.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.61
    Originally posted by InVerse
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely

      -New Day is perfect. This can't last, but something like this is never allowed to last, but they are awesome and a shining example of letting talented guys get themselves over.


    To hear New Day tell it (on Talk Is Jericho), Vince McMahon legitimately thought they were destined to blow up as a super popular babyface group. They knew better and got themselves over despite the office's best efforts.


I haven't heard the episode itself yet (though I have it on my list to catch-up - Jericho has been doing a great job with newer/current talent in his interview this year, he shines with his peers and the post-Attitude guys where it's clear he really knows who they are, what makes them tick and connects with them), but I had heard of this and it only makes me love the three of them more.

It's sad that they have to do it, but amazing that you have clever, talented guys like this running double reverse gambits against Vince's weirdness to get themselves over. I'm picturing Xavier Woods sitting in front of a bank of screens, half of which contains footage and raw data of Vinceanity from the last 15 years of TV booking and half of which have Five Nights At Freddy's playthroughs and Super Street Fighter IV Turbo Edition games going on, meticulously planning how to save the mid-card and beat them at video games at the same time.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
I read this board because when so many people go with "White Power Ranger", Dr Unlikely drops "Captain EO" on me.


    -Either Diego effortlessly and brilliantly diving in to save a potentially blown Tower of Doom spot, or booking that to look like Diego effortlessly and brilliantly dove in to save a potentially blown Tower of Doom spot as a cover for Kofi making the blind tag for the finish.


Kalisto was either really annoyed by the slip, or doing some strong supporting acting work. I'm thinking not so much acting.


    Becky is, I don't know, Lita From The Year 3000


Becky is Lita from an alternate Steampunk reality, where puns are a form of currency.

In theory, they were always going to have to pick a direction for the women starting tonight because Night of Champions is next. In reality - 9 way match? Maybe 9 way match.

The Jon Stewart thing was an obvious grab for mainstream attention*, which seems like a unnecessary thing on your second of third consecutive sell outs in the same building. But I'd guess declining ratings numbers might weight more heavily.

* and an excuse for a non-finish they were going to do even if they were running in Topeka since we're likely getting at least two more Cena/Rollins matches; as pointed out by smarter people on Twitter, "the second WrestleMania" had a lot of bad finishes for a return match which WWE wouldn't do on that first WrestleMania.

Undertaker/Brock with the referee missing the finish feels like they're setting up something with a special or second referee at WrestleMania. That seems like a pretty safe place for Austin.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Throwaway line that bothered me: Cole saying something to the effect of "JBL, you've faced the Undertaker in more matches than anyone else." That can't be right, can it?
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.09
    Originally posted by InVerse
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely

      -New Day is perfect. This can't last, but something like this is never allowed to last, but they are awesome and a shining example of letting talented guys get themselves over.


    To hear New Day tell it (on Talk Is Jericho), Vince McMahon legitimately thought they were destined to blow up as a super popular babyface group. They knew better and got themselves over despite the office's best efforts.


"So our idea is to be a heel group who aren't black stereotypes."

"Okay, I've thought about it for a while and we're going to make you babyface baptist preachers."

Y2/Day was the pod of the year hands down. Filling the House Of Positive Energy to the ceiling.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
      Becky is, I don't know, Lita From The Year 3000


    Becky is Lita from an alternate Steampunk reality, where puns are a form of currency.


If you come up with a mythology and scientific explanation for the magic goggles, I will produce this screenplay.

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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.76
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    If you come up with a mythology and scientific explanation for the magic goggles, I will produce this screenplay.

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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Y2/Day was the pod of the year hands down. Filling the House Of Positive Energy to the ceiling.


I dunno, Sasha Banks was pretty damn good on there. I was already a fan of hers but that podcast gave me a whole new respect for her. Mark Henry was really good as well. I didn't realize that his WWE in-ring debut preceded his very first day of training.

Apparently I just really enjoy Chris Jericho interviewing black people.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Well it was no NXT: Brooklyn.

Orton vs Sheamus was fine, if completely unnecessary. Why they felt we needed another round of this match is beyond me, and the live crowd seemed far more interested in chanting for random shit. **1/2

The Tag Team Fatal Four-way was good, if pretty sloppy at times. New Day are amazing, and by far the most entertaining tag team they have right now, so I was happy to see them win. ***1/4

Ziggler vs Rusev really struggled to keep my attention and the finish was horrendous. It also seemed to exist solely to set up the mixed tag, which begs the question, "why didn't they just do the mixed tag at SummerSlam?".**

Amell/Neville vs Stardust/Barrett was pretty good with Amell doing a much, much better job than most celebrity wrestlers in that spot. **3/4

Reigns/Ambrose vs Wyatt/Harper was good. Not sure why they held off on Sting/a third Wyatt family member, but at least the match we got was good. I was also glad they resisted the urge to turn Ambrose. ***1/2

Ryback vs Big Show vs Miz was a match that happened. It wasn't bad, I guess. **1/4

Cena vs Rollins was on its way to being a classic. With a decent finishing stretch, it's an easy ****1/2 match and a MOTYC. The finish we got ensured that it was neither of those things. Just shockingly bad booking. It was still a really, really good match up to the Jon Stewart interference though. ****

The Divas tag team elimination match was pretty good, if nowhere near the level of Banks vs Bailey from the night before. Having the team with the most over and most talented Diva in the division on it eliminated first was possibly counter-productive. For a match involving as many bad workers as it did good workers, it was fine. But it never really felt like part of a "revolution". Not like Banks vs Bailey did anyway. ***

I think Owens vs Cesaro would have fared much better if it was placed earlier in the show. They put it in the death slot, and despite it being a really good match involving two really over workers, it suffered from a tired crowd saving their energy for the big Taker/Brock match. Without that crowd energy to feed off, it fell a little flat. Still a good match though. Just not as great as one might have hoped given the participants ***3/4

Brock vs Taker deserved a better finish. It was much better than their WrestleMania match and had some amazing moments. It was dramatic and hard-hitting and had a big-match feel. It also had one of the worst finishes to a main event they've ever done. ***3/4




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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
    Originally posted by TheGreatWhiteBob
    It also had one of the worst finishes to a main event they've ever done.


Is it concerning to anyone else that we've said this more in the last 12 months than we have perhaps at any other point in all the time we've watched wrestling? In the past 12 months we've had:

-Dean Ambrose jobs to a hologram
-Dean Ambrose jobs to a television monitor
-Overbooking takes over, as Kane kills everyone and Seth Rollins takes advantage of a stipulation that was never made clear to beat Randy Orton
-Dean Ambrose beats Seth Rollins via Dusty Finish DQ
-Brock Lesnar and Seth Rollins goes to a presumed No Contest when Undertaker appears and Rollins drops off the face of the planet
-Montreal WITH A TWIST!

I really can't remember a time when there have been so many screwy PPV finishes. I can't help but think part of that is a by-product of The Network and The E thinking "Well, they're locked in for 30 days, so screw it," which was the original concern I expressed with the whole idea of PPV on The Network waaaaaaay back when this was all first going down. Regardless, it'd be nice to see a little more effort go into the design of these finishes, because it really is undoing a lot of the work of the talent, who are bringing it in the ring like never before.



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
    Originally posted by whatever



That has to be the last shot of Takers HOF video package.

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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.87
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      If you come up with a mythology and scientific explanation for the magic goggles, I will produce this screenplay.

    Secretly gifted to her by Piper to help root out aliens.


Becky vs. Sasha was more about Becky getting Sasha to wear the magic goggles than the NXT Women's Championship. Sasha finally put them on after losing to Bayley, allowing her to see the truth and reunite with her fellow Horsewomen.

Get writing, Justin.



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