LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Rex Grossman still had his health when he walked off the field. But he may not have his starting job much longer after his latest meltdown.
Grossman threw three interceptions as the Chicago Bears fell to the Dallas Cowboys 34-10 on Sunday night, and he did not get a vote of confidence from his coach a day later. Now, the question is: Will he start this week at Detroit?
"Will Rex Grossman start Sunday?" coach Lovie Smith asked on Monday, repeating the question. "Well, our evaluation process is going on right now, and if you come out to practice Wednesday, you'll have a better idea of who will be starting at all positions."
I can understand why Rex has lasted this long. You can't really pull a starter while the team's winning, but the Bears were winning because of their defense. When they hit a Cowboys roadblock, Rex was exposed for the hapless loser he is. Three INT's almost makes a guy wish he had Joey Harrington as his QB. Rex needs to be pulled in the worst way.
Everyone's going to be in for a world of disappointment when they find out Brian Griese is in fact Brian Griese, and they still have many other problems not a QB (which is a huge problem.)
Since Griese would be a band-aid on a bullet wound, would the Bears roll the dice and give up a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the '08 Draft to Arizona for Warner? He is an upgrade over Grossman/Griese/Orton and Arizona is committed to Leinart long-term, so they should be willing to give up their back-up for a decent pick. He could be a bust as a Bear, but really, can he be any worse than the last 15 years of Chicago QB's?
The Bears should trade their first and second round picks to the Falcons for Joey Harrington.
BTW, the Packers are 3-0.
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Meh. Dropping Grossman's the right thing to do if only from a humanitatian point of view, but Brian Griese is indeed still Brian Griese, and Cedric Benson still looks every inch the first round bust.
Not making a move for Culpepper or Leftwich seems mighty foolish right now...
This team could have Grossman, Griese, Orton, Leftwich, Culpepper, Brady, Manning, Manning, Manning, or Montana at QB and they would still be in deep doo-doo. The offensive line all go straight from the stadium to the nursing home they've aged so badly, Benson is a waste, and the WR can't catch a ball put right on their numbers. The defense is now missing half the starting lineup and in some cases is down to 3rd string guys already. The best thing they could do would be to try and acquire some draft picks if possible so they can start the rebuild, because they need basically 4 OL, a RB, a QB, 2 WR, and some secondary help.
Since Griese would be a band-aid on a bullet wound, would the Bears roll the dice and give up a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the '08 Draft to Arizona for Warner?
Honestly, if they get anyone (read: traded for the best possible QB available in a midseason trade), it's more likely to be someone like a Chris Simms or a Josh McCown or a Cleo Lemon. As long as Arizona thinks that they need Warner as a fire extinguisher for Leinart, he's not going anywhere. And really, at this point in the season, none of those guys would be any help to the Bears this season since none of them know the Bears' playbook. So they're better off biting the bullet with Grossman/Griese/Orton for this year, save the draft picks and then reshuffle come the offseason.
From someone who knows, throwing second round picks at shaky QBs will only come back to bite Chicago in the ass.
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Originally posted by Eddie FamousJeff George is available!
I know a guy who is convinced Jeff George would have been the greatest QB of all time had anyone given him a chance. Suffice to say he said that in all seriousness.
Personally I'm hoping to somehow see Vinny Testaverde or Doug Flutie. I'm tired of inexperienced QB's ;)
Originally posted by spfI know a guy who is convinced Jeff George would have been the greatest QB of all time had anyone given him a chance. Suffice to say he said that in all seriousness.
You know Jason Whitlock?
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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Revenge of the Sith = one thumb up from me. Fuck shit. I want to tittie fuck your ass. -- The Guinness. to Cerebus
Out of curiosity, anyone know what they likely have to give up to get Plummer out of 'retirement'? Not saying he would be the answer, but a motivated Plummer could probably make the offense functional enought to make the playoffs.
Out of curiosity, anyone know what they likely have to give up to get Plummer out of 'retirement'? Not saying he would be the answer, but a motivated Plummer could probably make the offense functional enough to make the playoffs.
Griese, not so much.
Here I was hoping he'd at least last until Week 5.
To get Plummer, you have to give up whatever Tampa wants for his rights, and I don't recall what the scuttlebutt was in the off season. I'm not sure if that was the gist of your question, since I read it as more of a 'what does Plummer want' than 'what does Tampa Bay want'. Sorry if I read it wrong.
Whoa, let's not go nuts! I realize that Rex and Griese aren't the best QB's in the world, but the Chicago front office would have to be insane to give up ANYTHING for Jake F'n Plummer, who was jettisoned in similar fashion to Rex not too long ago! They'd be better off playing Bad Rex any day of the week than taking their chances on Jake Plummer, who's just as likely to toss a 30-yarder to the other team as Rex or Griese.
Originally posted by redsoxnationSince Griese would be a band-aid on a bullet wound, would the Bears roll the dice and give up a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the '08 Draft to Arizona for Warner?
Judging by Wisenhunt's comments this week, as committed to Leinart as Arizona is, they know they'd be utter fools to give up a backup like Warner unless they were having cap problems or a desperate gap-filling need at the end of the season. Besides, Warner's no Joe Namath, but he's won a Superbowl, has led the league in passing, but has also struggled in his career. You could pick a far worse mentor for your franchise quarterback.
Originally posted by It's FalseWhoa, let's not go nuts! I realize that Rex and Griese aren't the best QB's in the world, but the Chicago front office would have to be insane to give up ANYTHING for Jake F'n Plummer...
Agreed. What in fuck's name has Plummer ever won?! He couldn't keep his job on a team that lived and died by the run when all he had to do was not throw bad interceptions.
I don't think there are any truly available QBs out there who could make a significant enough difference, especially now that the injury bug has hit. The only thing I wonder is where poor Lovie Smith is going to end up; it may not have been his choice to pick and then stick with Grossman, but he'll surely wear it.
Chicago should have pursued a serious upgrade at QB or RB in the offseason. Jeff Garcia comes to mind. They may have been scorned for ditching Grossman after he "took them to the Superbowl" but I suspect far less than they're being scorned right now for sucking the joint out.
Originally posted by Eddie FamousJeff George is available!
I know a guy who is convinced Jeff George would have been the greatest QB of all time had anyone given him a chance. Suffice to say he said that in all seriousness.
Personally I'm hoping to somehow see Vinny Testaverde or Doug Flutie. I'm tired of inexperienced QB's ;)
I'm in favor of anything that would get Flutie away from College Football. Maybe the Bears could use him to dropkick for the team. Little known fact about Flutie: He once hit a Hail Mary against a Miami team that blew a 31 point lead to Frank Reich. I don't know if any video exists of the play though.
That's going to be the reoccurring rumor until McNabb gets extended or the Bears say they don't want him. I think it'd be a great story but I'm not sure there's anything to it at this point.
Originally posted by Mayhem I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Donavan McNabb lining up under center in Solider Field next season.
I don't get this logic... Yes the Eagles drafted Kolb, and yes Philly can be harsh on McNabb, but its still too soon to pull the trigger and blow a season or more on an unproven rookie. Admittedly, the Lions defense may not be the best of litmus tests, but if McNabb can return to form he's still one of the best five quarterbacks in the league (behind Manning, Brady, Palmer, and Brees assuming he gets ouf of his own funk). Lets see how McNabb plays in a few more games before writing him out of town.
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