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Since: 4.4.03
From: Nitro WV

#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.45
Ok, it's not the 80's Rock n'Wrestling, this form of entertainment seems to be on an uprise as I had a chance to visit a show done by Nitkita Koloff's UWA/Wrestling Crusade in Huntington WV. Plus admission was free.

At first I wasn't sure how it would go down but it's old school wrestling with good solid values at the core. There were four matches with the opener being one of the better matches.

Eric Darkstorm vs. Chance Prophet with Chance getting the victory with his Snapliner. (Version of the Downward Spiral).

The rest of the card was filled out by some more local independant talent. Also appearing was NWA "Legend" George South who faced another unknown to me but what happened at the end was what really caught me as interesting.



The match stipulation was for the winner to put the other guy to go through a table. That's when somebody runs in and says I'll take his place. Then South kicks him and gets ready to put him through the table. This time Nikita and crew runs out to make the save.

That's when, the heel at the moment, George South goes into being a wrestler and then a being saved by God. Automatic face turn and following sermon by Nikita who brings the UWF Television championship with him. Nikita starts saying God is the champion of all and he took your place on the table, comparing it to the cross, for you. About one hundred people showed up and about half of them came up to get saved.



Anyways my point of this post is if you aren't into the WWE stuff because it is so vulgar for your kids to watch then catch a show by Nikita. It's clean, it was fun, and it seems to be wholesome.

If you want to catch something like this check out...

http://nikitakoloff.com/schedule.htm

One more thing...this is mainly informational. I don't want to start a religious, the rights or wrong of it, discussion. Thank you.

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Since: 8.5.03
From: North Carolina

#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
This seems to be a more effective evengelical tool than the squad of musclemen who break ice and phone books (Muscle Power/Power Team).



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Since: 17.11.03
From: Aransas Pass TX

#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.36
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    This seems to be a more effective evengelical tool than the squad of musclemen who break ice and phone books (Muscle Power/Power Team).

Being both a Christian and a wrestler I do think that Christian wrestling companies can be a good evagelical tool. I've been saying to people for years that if Ted Dibiase ever got one of his shows on the Christian networks it would be a great witnessing tool. As for the Powerteam, you'd be amazed at how many people get saved at those events. My youth pastor used to be one of them, those guys are cool.



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Since: 7.2.04
From: Canada

#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.70
Much like Christian music, I can't see this kind of show getting over outside of the evangelical demographic. In the end, whether its music or wrestling, in the end you know your being sold a message. I don't think it really works unless you're already preaching to the converted. I can't see anyone showing up at a wrestling show and finding the Lord because Koloff says God saved someone from being put through a table. Personally, I'd just feel ripped off.



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Since: 17.11.03
From: Aransas Pass TX

#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23
    Originally posted by Stilton
    Much like Christian music, I can't see this kind of show getting over outside of the evangelical demographic. In the end, whether its music or wrestling, in the end you know your being sold a message. I don't think it really works unless you're already preaching to the converted. I can't see anyone showing up at a wrestling show and finding the Lord because Koloff says God saved someone from being put through a table. Personally, I'd just feel ripped off.

You actually couldn't be more wrong, and I'm not saying that to sound insulting. I've seen alot of Christian metal or hip hop groups reach out and grab people as I have Christian wrestling events. Or Christian events period, if the message is really pure and it's not just someone trying to make money off of something they know people will pay to see then the message will get across.
That being said there are some people out there who claim to be doing "Christian Wrestling events" for Christ that are just using that tool for the money.



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Since: 25.11.02
From: Jersey

#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.03
    Originally posted by Stilton
    Much like Christian music, I can't see this kind of show getting over outside of the evangelical demographic. In the end, whether its music or wrestling, in the end you know your being sold a message. I don't think it really works unless you're already preaching to the converted. I can't see anyone showing up at a wrestling show and finding the Lord because Koloff says God saved someone from being put through a table. Personally, I'd just feel ripped off.


Are you maybe from a major metropolitan area? Because I am, and the idea seems just as far-fetched to me. But I suspect that perhaps in other parts of the country, particularly the midwest, the mindset and values are such that something like this could actually work. I think "city folk" are just a bit more naturally skeptical of such things than those out in the country.
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Since: 8.5.03
From: North Carolina

#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
    Are you maybe from a major metropolitan area? Because I am, and the idea seems just as far-fetched to me. But I suspect that perhaps in other parts of the country, particularly the midwest, the mindset and values are such that something like this could actually work. I think "city folk" are just a bit more naturally skeptical of such things than those out in the country.


Parts of the South would eat up a family-friendly wrestling show that de-emphasizes T&A and profanity for Old School shenanigans and cartoony faces. This might be the very genre that brings wrestling back as a monthly affordable, family event. But this has nothing to do with sophistication or smarkiness. Going to a rasslin show used to be a multi-generational event 'round these parts during the heyday of the MidAtlantic NWA scene.



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Since: 1.3.02
From: Westminster, CA

#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.26
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by Stilton
      Much like Christian music, I can't see this kind of show getting over outside of the evangelical demographic. In the end, whether its music or wrestling, in the end you know your being sold a message. I don't think it really works unless you're already preaching to the converted. I can't see anyone showing up at a wrestling show and finding the Lord because Koloff says God saved someone from being put through a table. Personally, I'd just feel ripped off.


    Are you maybe from a major metropolitan area? Because I am, and the idea seems just as far-fetched to me. But I suspect that perhaps in other parts of the country, particularly the midwest, the mindset and values are such that something like this could actually work. I think "city folk" are just a bit more naturally skeptical of such things than those out in the country.


Actually, I've seen groups like the Power Team pull hundreds up to the stage to be saved in L.A., one of the more cynical places in the country. Would Koloff's act work here? No. But that's just because wrestling outside of the WWE can't draw in L.A.




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Since: 28.1.02
From: Louisville, KY

#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
I'd like to point out that religious evangelism, especially evangelical Christian evangelism and athletics (even the staged athleticism of pro wrestling) have always gone together.

Most larger churches build, as their second building, and often their first, a "Family life center" - you can translate that to "gym". Fellowship of Christian Atheletes (FCA) is a huge force on high school campuses across the country and there are several touring althetic groups in addition to the wrestling and power lifting groups named.

Christian Team Ministries puts on track and field events, Saints Prison Fellowship tours with pro softball teams in prisons, Oral Hershiser and Bobby Bowden both do public speaking/evengelism, There are many sports camps for youth that are very religious in nature.

Athletes in Action is a college level basketball team (many Div 1A teams play them as an exhibition game early in their season), but what many people don't know is that they are a Christian group and they not only put up B-Ball teams, but Hockey, wrestling, Soccer, track and other teams. John Wooden is one of their main spokemen.

So, yeah, it's not unusual. So, question: wasn't Sting traveling with Nikita's group for awhile?



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