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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
Yeah, it was that kind of Raw. Good to see Bryan back to sell the worthless IC match. They are trying to get Orton over again while Cena is out. I feel like that formula always fails. Yet, he did have a good match with Rollins who continues to look weaker than wet spaghetti. Rollins is putting on good to great matches, but I think David Arquette will be remembered more fondly than his title run.

As a guy who does an Arrow podcast, it doesn't surprise me that Stephen Armell is now going after the WWE heels. It fits the theme of the show which is lets steal from another famous hero's rouges gallery, coughBatmancough , and run with it til it pisses off the fan base of both parties.

The Diva elimination tag at Summer Slam is going to be a mess. Which sucks, because 80% of the women in that match deserve better. As does their male tag team counterparts. I didn't even know the Los Matadors were still a thing.

Kevin Owens is the American Rusev at this point. No mention of Owens/Cesaro for SummerSlam, it will probably be the dark match. Why neither one of them doesn't have the US or IC title going into this thing makes no sense.




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.86
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Rollins is putting on good to great matches, but I think David Arquette will be remembered more fondly than his title run.


Do you really think that, or are you just being ridiculous again?

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Kevin Owens is the American Rusev at this point.


Nope. You can have Bieber, but you can't have Kevin.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.87
Am I the only one who doesn't like the "wrestle a match to wrestle a match later" thing? I wasn't paying full attention, but I don't believe the announcers even mentioned during the main event that Orton had a match earlier in the evening that would have worn him down some. It really seems to play down the effort required when you regularly have people take part in two matches in one night. IMHO, save that for special occasions when you want it to be A Big Deal.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.18
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Am I the only one who doesn't like the "wrestle a match to wrestle a match later" thing? I wasn't paying full attention, but I don't believe the announcers even mentioned during the main event that Orton had a match earlier in the evening that would have worn him down some. It really seems to play down the effort required when you regularly have people take part in two matches in one night. IMHO, save that for special occasions when you want it to be A Big Deal.
Would have been good to have Seth have a tuneup match to be fair, or to have Triple H tell him backstage how this gave him an advantage, but why argue storyline points for something I'm going to have forgotten by next Monday?

Here's my sizzling take on "Stephanie presents the (we invite you to use the hashtag) Divas Revolution:" it's a rehash of Vince Russo's faction-heavy "Gang Warz," only with nicer breasts and less Puerto Ricans. Rosa picked the worst time to get knocked up!

Along those lines (and because I'm obsessed with race), what a nice touch of New Day in their exasperated "why not add (x) to the match?" backstage interview to exclusively select tag teams of color in their discussion. Still kinda chuckleworthy that they get away with aping "We Want Some Pussy" given that WWE already put the kibosh on "Submission Sorority" after learning it had pr0n connotations. Maybe in 2015 2 Live Crew isn't considered pornographic. We can only hope - AND CUH-LAP!

Even the prospect of Brock AND Take in the same building isn't getting me to open up my wallet to go see a RAW taping at the Target Center.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.26
The triple threat match had great stuff, most of which didn't feature Orton. That finish was innovative in taking out Owens but an afterthought when taking out Cesaro. Orton has become the new Big Show: angle Spackle.

I am shocked to have so little interest in anyone involved in the Wyatt/Shield rivalry. But I should. They're good to great performers. But there are no stakes. The two most over tag teams aren't in the tag title four-way. So that angle weakens too. Maybe this is a set up for the post-Summerslam RAW: the winner of Shield/Wyatts gets the champs and takes the belts.

I expected the non-Bella teams to unite like ECW and WCW after that match.

Good for Stardust. Good for Cody.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.87
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Would have been good to have Seth have a tuneup match to be fair, or to have Triple H tell him backstage how this gave him an advantage, but why argue storyline points for something I'm going to have forgotten by next Monday?



Luckily for you, WWE will have a "Last Monday on RAW" flashback video!

And I don't even care about a tuneup match to be fair -- just point out during the main event that Orton is worn down and Seth should have an advantage. Though I guess some would just complain that makes him Seth look even weaker when he almost-loses.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
This show just didn't hold my attention. The shitty camera work and format of commercial breaks really annoyed me more than usual last night too. The shows just don't feel fun right now.

Summer Rae really locked in that Camel Clutch though. That segment wasn't great, but it was kind of fun.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
PCB? Really? Come on.

My suggestion to them was along the lines of...You named yourselves Submission Sorority, and now you can't use it. So, why don't you stick with the idea and give yourselves a sorority *name* using actual Greek letters, and a made-up letter called "Tappa" (get it, Tap?). Tappa Chi, or something. WWE loves to make up words and trademark them. Not the greatest idea, but a lot less lazy than PCB. They gave up too quickly.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.33
That was a CORNY opening segment. I don't know why Reigns gets so much grief when Rollins is just as bad on the mic sometimes. Yet here we go again with wrestler A interrupted by B, who is interrupted by C, who is interrupted by authority figure who makes a match.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.60
There actually was a brief, forgettable bit backstage where Rollins asked HHH why he was making him defend the belt and HHH, to pave it over, volunteered the "hey, you'll be facing a tired guy!" response.

I think it's safe to say - following the chain of events including the Authority reinstating Brock to go after Rollins (after being the ones to suspend him in the first place), Stephanie McMahon Presents Stephanie McMahon's Divas Revolution, the two of them booking Brock/Undertaker and ordering around the locker room with no pushback and now HHH just giving away title shots at the heel champion - that HHH and Stephanie have basically done that Vintage HHH Move that he loves to do and turned face without putting someone over. Basically, we should no longer pretend to expect any comeuppance for all of the terrible things the two of them did as characters from the day after Wrestlemania 30 to now.

Similarly, Cena's injury makes it muddier, but I feel like it's fairly safe to assume that "Cena puts over mid-carder cleanly as US Champion" was never part of the plan for the John Cena Indy Fantasy Summer Camp angle, since he was challenging Rollins as champ even before getting injured. Seems like the best we were ever going to get was "Cena wins some good matches, loses belt to a guy only because Rollins costs him the match."

The right thing to do would have been Owens wins 2-1 over Cena cleanly (or Cesaro wins cleanly and Owens chases him), Rollins mocks Cena and does his World Title Open shot, Cena himself eventually answers the challenge.

They've fumbled with Rollins in such a sad, short-sighted way. He's the msot talented in-ring guy on the roster, maybe even with a healthy Bryan (and maybe not including Brock, though Brock's gotten pigeonholed since last Summserslam). He's got the talent to be something we haven't seen since - oh, I don't know, HHH himself, who maybe ought to know how this works - a heel champion who can win because he's capable of beating anyone. Arrogant, nasally, whiny, sellout creep who is nonetheless the ultimate, unsolvable puzzle-box of a champion would have been new and cool and "made everyone look good" just as much as Cena beating people at the US level did. Rollins as the guy who can just beat Neville but loses clean to Cena and gets saved against Orton just makes Neville and Rollins look worse.

And if the worry was "Oh, if he looks too good, fans will cheer him!" well, that was never a concern for HHH, the supposed gold standard of pro wrestlers, was it? And guess what, they cheered Rollins for legit breaking Cena's face last week anyway, so we sat through a spring of total garbage dump booking with Kane and the Authority for nothing.

If the belt has to come off Rollins (and now it seemingly does, due to their own terrible, inexcusable booking), why not have Orton be the guy so we can build to that Orton/Brock match we're seemingly never going to get, while allowing Cena to stay at the US level and really work that to the logical conclusion of the big, starmaking, clean Cesaro win?

In other "the booking and not the peformers kills the product" news, I continue to be fascinated by the Reigns do-over. He's getting the Wyatt feud he sped past last year. He's getting the do-the-hard-work matches they forgot to book for him last year. He's getting properly booked as "guy who likes Dean Ambrose, who we all like" that they forgot to do last year when he mostly left Dean to die at the hands of the Authority. If they're smart (?), they should be doing the final piece of the puzzle they screwed up last year and build to Reigns winning a secondary title. Picture this year's booking of Reigns moved back to last year culminating with Reigns beating Rusev at WM31 for the US belt. Do that and right now, you'd be heading into Summerslam with a version of Roman Reigns people would be totally cool to see heading for Lesnar Killer status at WM32.

The Ambrose stuff is a little strange, though. I like the dynamic they have as bros (though they hit the "we drink BEER!" button a little hard, as if to be telling the kids "these two are grown-ups!"). I don't necessarily love the Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen branding they're doing with Dean re: Roman, but I do like Roman and Dean positioning it as Roman being the coolest dude in the world and Dean being Roman's personal Teddy Duchamp. (Seth was their Gordy Lachance when they were all together). Basically, let them film a vignette where Roman and Dean find a dead body, is what I'm saying.

Ambrose needs a path, though. If not Orton, he should be the one right now getting teed up for Brock's fall program. Again, in that perfect alternate 2014, Roman would now be a beloved US champ getting ready to avenge Ambrose after Dean gets massacred at the Rumble by Brock because he's too dumb/crazy to stay down after 40 suplexes. That's how you maximize talent.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.18

This is the SECOND time they've managed to book Nikki for an entire month without a title defense since she won it. No problem breaking AJ's record when you never defend! With nothing but Gang Warz - sorry, #DivaRevolution on the near horizon (INCLUDING SummerSlam), we're probably gonna have to hope for a house show title match to stop that clock again.

(Interestingly, Nikki's last title defense was the same night as RYBACK's last title defense...which WAS a house show.)



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
Night of Champions is the next PPV after SummerSlam, on September 20th. Nikki would seem to have to defend there, and it's conveniently days after she hits her 300 day mark. She's surely not losing the belt before then, and the lack of title matches has to be part of them trying to string this out long enough. It seems like getting Nikki the record is the most important thing going on with the women (Naomi probably should've won it, anyone should be winning it on SummerSlam) and the whole current set up of trios teams exists simply to get the new people TV time while not making any one of them the breakout definite #1 contender who would need a title shot. I mean, it obviously looks like Charlotte is the anointed one, but they don't want it to make it so certain so she has to get a title shot yet (because she's have to fail right now), but they don't want any one else to get set up for a title match to confuse the issue. Also, maybe she has a shoulder injury?

(Irony? This title reign length is seemingly intended to help Nikki but, since it's a road block to the women who the people who dislike Nikki actually like, it's the worst thing for her perception. Nikki is going to be liked so much more in October.)

Anyway, there's no sense for Nikki to do a title match on TV until the day after SummerSlam at this point. Doesn't meant it won't happen, just mean it's unlikely. It'll be silly not to do one right before the streak, so I'm thinking she won't get to 60 days on that alone. Plus, they ought to start doing Charlotte/Nikki at house shows at some point to get ready.

I thought too much about this.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.31
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Similarly, Cena's injury makes it muddier, but I feel like it's fairly safe to assume that "Cena puts over mid-carder cleanly as US Champion" was never part of the plan for the John Cena Indy Fantasy Summer Camp angle, since he was challenging Rollins as champ even before getting injured. Seems like the best we were ever going to get was "Cena wins some good matches, loses belt to a guy only because Rollins costs him the match."


I don't know. Tanking an existing angle to short-sightedly take care of another issue on the show is one of RAW's trademark decision-making policies. Watching Owens and Cesaro flop around without anything of meaning (y'know, like the US title) to hold their feud together convinces me that Owens was supposed to win the belt until they decided they had to use it as a prop to help fix their shitty booking of Rollins and the World title.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    In other "the booking and not the peformers kills the product" news, I continue to be fascinated by the Reigns do-over. He's getting the Wyatt feud he sped past last year. He's getting the do-the-hard-work matches they forgot to book for him last year. He's getting properly booked as "guy who likes Dean Ambrose, who we all like" that they forgot to do last year when he mostly left Dean to die at the hands of the Authority. If they're smart (?), they should be doing the final piece of the puzzle they screwed up last year and build to Reigns winning a secondary title. Picture this year's booking of Reigns moved back to last year culminating with Reigns beating Rusev at WM31 for the US belt. Do that and right now, you'd be heading into Summerslam with a version of Roman Reigns people would be totally cool to see heading for Lesnar Killer status at WM32.


My personal cannon is that nothing between the breakup of the SHIELD and the day after WM31 actually happened. Think about it; that removes the disastrous first Rollins/Ambrose feud, the pointless year-long non-push push of Reigns, Ambrose's continued burial, the pointless removal/reinstatement of the Authority, Brock's defenseless reign as champion, Undertaker's utterly, utterly pointless match with Bray Wyatt, and essentially just puts everything at the same place anyways. (For the record, in my head, Rollins just got awarded Bryan's vacated title by the Authority, bypassing months of Rollins calling himself the Future without doing anything.)
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
Couldn't they just do an impromptu quickie Nikki-Tamina match at a house show? It fits the Gang Warz theme and Tamina isn't going anywhere anyways. I know the answer is they don't give a shit about the details, but if Nikki breaking the record is so important it might be a good idea to make it seem somewhat legit.

I actually have no problem with Nikki holding the belt if she were defending it. This company has gotten so bad at making title holders look strong. It should be one of the easiest things to do.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.60
    Originally posted by Tenken347

    My personal cannon is that nothing between the breakup of the SHIELD and the day after WM31 actually happened. Think about it; that removes the disastrous first Rollins/Ambrose feud, the pointless year-long non-push push of Reigns, Ambrose's continued burial, the pointless removal/reinstatement of the Authority, Brock's defenseless reign as champion, Undertaker's utterly, utterly pointless match with Bray Wyatt, and essentially just puts everything at the same place anyways. (For the record, in my head, Rollins just got awarded Bryan's vacated title by the Authority, bypassing months of Rollins calling himself the Future without doing anything.)


That last part is key, since it gets the belt on Rollins without having to cash in the MITB briefcase. So let's bring this home: the reason that June 2014-March 29, 2015 is wiped out of continuity is that Sheamus traveled throught time to change history, presumably when he went off TV around Survivor Series. Through means still unknown (though most likely tied to Stardust's mysteriously missing "Cosmic Key" plotline), Sheamus went back in time to stop The Authority from gaining too much power when he vanished from TV in the fall, but went back too far to Celtic times, explaining his current look. He was eventually able to return to Money In The Bank 2014 (which he lost the first time around) and win, since he knew what everyone was going to do in the match this time, and that's why he currently has the case.

Side-note on alternate histories: the Hulk Hogan incident has made my ongoing project of condensing the entirety of 30 or so Wrestlemanias into a "ten year sliding period" of WWE continuity. It's now unclear if Hulk Hogan defeated "The Giant" (history has been murky of late whether it was Andre or his son) at Wrestlemania I. On the plus side, this will make it easier in a year or two when history will just move all of Hogan's accomplishments over to HHH, who will have headlined all 10 canonical Wrestlesmania.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.09
    Originally posted by Tenken
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
      In other "the booking and not the peformers kills the product" news, I continue to be fascinated by the Reigns do-over. He's getting the Wyatt feud he sped past last year. He's getting the do-the-hard-work matches they forgot to book for him last year. He's getting properly booked as "guy who likes Dean Ambrose, who we all like" that they forgot to do last year when he mostly left Dean to die at the hands of the Authority. If they're smart (?), they should be doing the final piece of the puzzle they screwed up last year and build to Reigns winning a secondary title. Picture this year's booking of Reigns moved back to last year culminating with Reigns beating Rusev at WM31 for the US belt. Do that and right now, you'd be heading into Summerslam with a version of Roman Reigns people would be totally cool to see heading for Lesnar Killer status at WM32.


    My personal cannon is that nothing between the breakup of the SHIELD and the day after WM31 actually happened. Think about it; that removes the disastrous first Rollins/Ambrose feud, the pointless year-long non-push push of Reigns, Ambrose's continued burial, the pointless removal/reinstatement of the Authority, Brock's defenseless reign as champion, Undertaker's utterly, utterly pointless match with Bray Wyatt, and essentially just puts everything at the same place anyways. (For the record, in my head, Rollins just got awarded Bryan's vacated title by the Authority, bypassing months of Rollins calling himself the Future without doing anything.)


This all makes so much sense. It's funny that the day that Bryan vacated the title and it was put up in Money in the Bank, the newly-turned Rollins was the #1 choice to take the title and launch the new main event heel. The Brock plans for Reigns meant he wasn't an option at the time, but the timeline corrected itself in the long run.

It's funny that the lion's share of Reigns' problems would've been alleviated if, like Dr. U said, they'd have just had Ambrose and Reigns be pals like they are now. If I was going to course correct the last year to preserve all the classic matches, it'd go something like ...

- Reigns and Ambrose team up at SummerSlam, just like they are this year, against Rollins and Orton. Reigns can pin Orton and neither Ambrose nor Rollins have to lose one yet.

- Ambrose ACTUALLY BEATS Rollins in one of their matches. If you want Rollins to come out of HIAC with his customary Rollins sneaky man heat instead of Ambrose getting the revenge blowoff, then have Ambrose pin him first the night he came back in September. Either way, Dean has a win over Rollins for when Rollins gets the title.

- Ambrose ACTUALLY BEATS Bray Wyatt in one of their matches. Also, the Wyatts never break up, obvs, and Rowan sadly never explores his identity as Big Red. Keeping Wyatt unbeaten is not important because ...

- The Authority dies at Survivor Series, Triple H and Stephanie never come back to television, and so Sting wrestles Undertaker because Taker must answer his challenge to complete their mystical destinies or what have you. Your choice between what you value more, ever seeing UT/Sting or Undertaker appearing for the first time since the streak was broken when he set up this SummerSlam match. In which case, Bray and Sting can consolidate their Mania angles and, imagine that, Sting can actually win his match.

- Is it even possible to sneak a Roman Reigns win into an acceptable Royal Rumble match in Philadelphia, just to get him in place to have a hellacious throwdown with Brock? (I guess that's where having the title on Rollins the whole time comes in handy.) Pretty much everything Reigns did in between leaving the Shield and wrestling Brock made him worse off, so I guess he should do as little as possible. So he disappears with his hernia and returns as a surprise Rumble entrant to win it. No promos, no declit-declare, no magic beans. Not a word from you until the buzzer hits for #30, pal.

- Hindsight is going to deprive Daniel Bryan of his rightful Mania storyline with Lesnar even in the imagination game, but he shouldn't be anywhere near the Rumble if he's not going to win it. However, the Bryan character arc still deserves proper resolution and prominent usage. So maybe build up to his long-awaiting in-ring return ("Beautiful Day" and Coldplay video packages and such) occuring at Wrestlemania, in the match he and Ziggler wanted to have, in his big first match (which might also amount to his retirement match).

- With Stephanie McMahon erased from existence save for one cameo to get judo thrown by Ronda Rousey, Paige herself recruits Charlotte, Becky, and Sasha Banks to take on the established hierarchy of the Bellas, Naomi, and Tamina. After vanquishing the old guard, Sasha can then turn on her mates and split everyone off in their own directions.

- Changing the results of the Cena/Owens matches and putting the U.S. title and/or MITB briefcase on Owens and/or Cesaro is another story for this time next year, I guess.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.60
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

    Is it even possible to sneak a Roman Reigns win into an acceptable Royal Rumble match in Philadelphia, just to get him in place to have a hellacious throwdown with Brock? (I guess that's where having the title on Rollins the whole time comes in handy.) Pretty much everything Reigns did in between leaving the Shield and wrestling Brock made him worse off, so I guess he should do as little as possible. So he disappears with his hernia and returns as a surprise Rumble entrant to win it. No promos, no declit-declare, no magic beans. Not a word from you until the buzzer hits for #30, pal.

    - Hindsight is going to deprive Daniel Bryan of his rightful Mania storyline with Lesnar even in the imagination game, but he shouldn't be anywhere near the Rumble if he's not going to win it. However, the Bryan character arc still deserves proper resolution and prominent usage. So maybe build up to his long-awaiting in-ring return ("Beautiful Day" and Coldplay video packages and such) occuring at Wrestlemania, in the match he and Ziggler wanted to have, in his big first match (which might also amount to his retirement match).

If you're absolutely, positively, contractually deadset on doing Reigns/Lesnar at Wrestlemania - and even in this alternate universe where Reigns has been properly booked, this is the wrong idea - then Bryan reappears before the Rumble to note that the Authority has refused to clear him for the Rumble itself, but he will be returning in 2015, even if it has to be unsanctioned. But even if you literally have to have Bryan say "Will I be in the Royal Rumble? NO NO NO NO NO. Will I wrestle this year? YES YES YES YES", establish that Bryan will not be in the Rumble, keep Reigns completely off TV, stack the deck so it's down to Wyatt/Harper/Rusev/Kane/Big Show vs. Ziggler and Ambrose until, as you say, Reigns returns as a surprise at #30, just narrowly saving Ziggler and Ambrose from literally being dumped out like sacks of garbage. He leads the comeback, Ziggler gets tossed in the chaos, Roman gets overpowered but saved by Ambrose, who sacrifices himself to take eliminate both Wyatts for his best friend and drinking buddy and Roman overcomes Show and Kane by sheer brute force superman strength and coolness and not dumb luck.

Next night, Reigns and Ambrose come out and Ambrose - who will now be going to Wrestlemania to face Wyatt to blow off that feud - gives Reigns his blessing to go get Lesnar, but both agree Reigns might not be ready. Bryan returns and an agreement is struck: Ambrose and Reigns admit that Bryan was the best wrestler in the world and the Shield's biggest threat, and they need submission specialist and wrestling machine Daniel Bryan to train Roman for Brock. Bryan admits that Roman is the baddest dude he's ever fought and wants the help of The Powerhouse to train himself for his return revenge match against Kane, and he's also got some inside info on the Wyatts to help out Ambrose.

Then you either do Bryan/Kane at Fastlane or save it for Wrestlemania, which we would have hated at the time, but no more than we hated the booking we got anyway.

BUT!

In your scenario above, almost as in WWE 616, everything is still pointing for Ambrose to be the guy at Wrestlemania. Do the same scenario - Bryan says he can't be in the Rumble but will be back, Ziggler/Ambrose vs. all the heels in the Rumble final, Roman returns at #30 - and then fix things by having Ambrose win, with Reigns eliminated by Rusev doing the same playing possum bit he did in real life. That way, you get Roman vs. Rusev at Wrestlemania (and we now know that Rusev is more than capable of carrying that feud on the mic and in the ring) and Ambrose vs. Lesnar, with Heyman selling it that Ambrose is a junkyard dog, murderous hobo and it's not fair that a professional fighter like Brock Lesnar has to fight him. Ambrose was the guy in the fall, and I seen no evidence in hindsight that the horribly received Reigns/Lesnar build-up drew any more or got any more buys than a red-hot, beloved, bum fighting maniac Ambrose vs. Lesnar would have drawn. Ambrose winning in Philly would have gone over and you don't alienate your core audience and have to panic book for two months, and if you want, do the exact same ending with Rollins showing up to steal the win, Lesnar destroying Ambrose but being unable to get finish and Reigns being the guy to end Rusev's streak, get a bunch of US title defenses against your elite stable of indy superworkers and spends the year getting ready to go into Dallas at WMXXXII as The Future of the Company.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
So, what we are saying is if we got rid of Steph and HHH, everything would be fine. I concur.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
ICYMI, Cena was on Tough Enough and essentially confirmed he'd be competing at SummerSlam. The next day, WWE.com confirmed the Winner Takes All match.

Oh, it's a new THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE!
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Fantasy booking WrestleMania 31 is pretty depressing when you consider how great the hype could have turned out. It still wound up being a really good show despite all of that, but not as particularly meaningful as it could have been.

If the current WrestleMania 32 plans stick (Rock/HHH???), I don't see any way it can be salvageable into something I'd want to see.
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Well, definitely not Insurrection
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