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                             BCS Prev  Harris Int.    USA Today        Computer Rankings
BCS Standings through 10/31 Avg Week Rank Pts % Rank Pts % Avg 1 2 3 4 5 6 %
1. Florida (8-0) .9918 1 1 2803 .9835 1 1463 .9919 1 25 25 25 25 25 241.000
2. Texas (8-0) .9227 3 2 2714 .9523 2 1395 .9458 3 22 24 23 20 17 22 .870
3. Alabama (8-0) .9166 2 3 2672 .9375 3 1390 .9424 3 23 23 22 22 19 20 .870
4. Iowa (9-0) .8407 4 7 2209 .7751 6 1161 .7871 2 24 22 24 24 24 25 .960
5. Cincinnati (8-0) .8033 8 5 2281 .8004 7 1150 .7797 5 20 17 19 21 23 23 .830
6. TCU (8-0) .8008 6 6 2226 .7811 4 1182 .8014 6 21 21 20 18 20 21 .820
7. Boise State (8-0) .7863 7 4 2313 .8116 5 1176 .7973 8 18 20 16 19 21 18 .750
8. Oregon (7-1) .7651 10 8 2148 .7537 8 1079 .7315 7 19 19 21 23 22 19 .810
9. LSU (7-1) .7121 9 9 2070 .7263 9 1062 .7200 9 17 18 17 17 18 17 .690
10. Georgia Tech (8-1) .6287 11 11 1775 .6228 11 934 .6332 10 16 16 18 15 15 16 .630
11. Penn State (8-1) .6166 12 10 1809 .6347 10 966 .6549 12 14 14 15 14 12 14 .560
12. USC (6-2) .5336 5 12 1415 .4965 13 729 .4942 11 15 15 14 16 16 15 .610
13. Pittsburgh (7-1) .4401 15 15 1282 .4498 14 694 .4705 14 12 10 11 4 7 12 .400
14. Utah (7-1) .4226 16 16 1121 .3933 16 567 .3844 13 13 13 12 11 11 13 .490
15. Houston (7-1) .4209 18 14 1303 .4572 15 672 .4556 16 11 8 13 2 5 11 .350
16. Ohio State (7-2) .3784 17 13 1369 .4804 12 730 .4949 21 5 5 7 5 0 1 .160
17. Miami, Fla. (6-2) .3707 19 17 1111 .3898 17 549 .3722 16 8 7 10 9 10 8 .350
18. Arizona (5-2) .2589 20 21 598 .2098 19 320 .2169 16 7 0 5 13 14 10 .350
19. Oklahoma State (6-2) .2179 14 18 690 .2421 18 371 .2515 21 4 11 4 3 3 5 .160
20. California (6-2) .2095 24 22 385 .1351 23 197 .1336 15 3 12 3 12 13 9 .360
21. Wisconsin (6-2) .1939 NR 24 295 .1035 22 204 .1383 19 10 3 9 10 8 7 .340
22. Notre Dame (6-2) .1903 23 20 657 .2305 21 281 .1905 23 9 0 6 7 2 0 .150
23. Virginia Tech (5-3) .1559 13 23 333 .1168 24 193 .1308 20 6 0 8 8 4 4 .220
24. Oklahoma (5-3) .1494 NR 19 673 .2361 20 313 .2122 28 0 9 0 0 0 0 .000
25. South Florida (6-2) .0786 NR 26 176 .0618 26 65 .0441 24 0 6 0 1 9 6 .130

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So Cincy just needs to win out and have Texas and Iowa lose.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.71
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    So Cincy just needs to win out and have Texas and Iowa lose.








Considering the small margin between Cincy and TCU, Cincy would probably need Pitt to knock off Notre Dame in order for a victory over Pitt to allow them to stay strong, as TCU could get a boost should they knock off Utah.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
      So Cincy just needs to win out and have Texas and Iowa lose.



    Considering the small margin between Cincy and TCU, Cincy would probably need Pitt to knock off Notre Dame in order for a victory over Pitt to allow them to stay strong, as TCU could get a boost should they knock off Utah.



If Cincy wins out, they'll get another little boost by beating ranked West Virginia too.



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As I expected, USC is still in a position for a bowl like the Fiesta to reach down and grab them, since the Big 12 is so horrid this year. It's not over for them yet as far as the BCS is concerned (it's surely over in terms of them going to the Rose) but they've got to win out.

Current projections based on the rankings:

National championship: #1 Florida v. #2 Texas
Rose Bowl: #4 Iowa v. #8 Oregon
Orange Bowl: #10 Georgia Tech v. #5 Cincinnati
Fiesta Bowl: #12 USC v. #6 TCU
Sugar Bowl: #3 Alabama v. #7 Boise State

Teams left on the outside: #9 LSU (ineligible due to two-team-per-conference rule), #11 Penn State, #13 Pittsburgh, #14 Utah

The only iffy proposition in these predictions is Penn State's exclusion to Boise and USC's benefit. As I said in the other thread, a lot of eyes are watching and if an undefeated Boise gets excluded in favor of a one-loss Penn State team, that'll be the straw that breaks the camel's back. In this scenario, their bigger complaint would be the Fiesta choosing USC over them, but that's inevitable due to the Fiesta's close proximity to USC. (As it is, the only reason that we wouldn't get a USC/Boise matchup is because TCU has to be chosen first as the auto-bid.)



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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
      So Cincy just needs to win out and have Texas and Iowa lose.








    Considering the small margin between Cincy and TCU, Cincy would probably need Pitt to knock off Notre Dame in order for a victory over Pitt to allow them to stay strong, as TCU could get a boost should they knock off Utah.


Yeah but here's the thing - TCU plays 1 ranked team remaining, Cincy plays 2. And Cincy's already played a stronger schedule. Actually I'm not even sure why the margin's so slim but I'm assuming it would pull stronger especially if Oregon State wins a few more Pac 10 games. Don't forget Cincy won in Corvalis fairly easily.



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I don't see what the big deal about Cincinnati is. What exactly have they done that is so impressive. Yeah beating Oregon State on the road is nice but when you're building an argument around that it's not very convincing. TCU vs. Cincinnati is probably a moot point though because I doubt Cincinnati goes undefeated.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    I don't see what the big deal about Cincinnati is. What exactly have they done that is so impressive. Yeah beating Oregon State on the road is nice but when you're building an argument around that it's not very convincing. TCU vs. Cincinnati is probably a moot point though because I doubt Cincinnati goes undefeated.


Gee what the hell has any team in the country done. Alabama's big non conference win is over some turned out to be average ACC team that can't win a conference game now. Florida is undefeated in Sun Belt play I believe. I get sick and tired of hearing "WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!" when if they were named USC or Alabama they'd get the benefit of the doubt. What have they done? They beat Oregon State in Corvalis. They beat South Florida. They beat Fresno State (who usually beats BCS teams with regularity and almost beat Wisconsin). What should they do, run up the score on a FCS school? Wait, they did that too. What has TCU done that warrants including them over Cincinnati? At least Cincinnati plays in a conference that gets them into the BCS automatically.



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My friend and I were discussing that the non-BSC bowls must be licking their chops with the idea of getting Miami, ND, Ohio State, PSU or USC. The BCS games mentioned above look terrible. ND will also be BCS bowl eligible if they win out, too. I still don't see them getting a bid considering we will probably stuck with 5 undefeated teams at the end and a ton of one lose teams. Another thing with a TCU is who is going to attend those games? TCU had a pathetic turn out for a home game. Is the BSC relishing a game where most of the stadium is empty? They almost have to get a USC in that game to have a sell out. I think you will see more of a revolt coming out of the bowls themselves then the universities with some of these match-ups. The Orange Bowl has been a disaster for years now, because the ACC and Big East have mediocre teams. If we have a year where TCU and Boise St both get in and the attendance is down then you will see more movement towards a playoff.
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It's pretty much a lose-lose situation for the NCAA, lotjx. Thing is, though, the NCAA will lose more if a team like Boise gets excluded and Congress begins to make serious overtures towards laying the legal hammer down. They're better off taking their chances with the smaller schools, even if a playoff is where things will ultimately lead, because at least they'll get to dictate how it turns out rather than being dictated to by Congress. (Of course, if a team like Idaho or Nevada can go into Smurfville and knock the Broncos off, the NCAA gets to do the happy dance because they're officially off the hook.)

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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    It's pretty much a lose-lose situation for the NCAA, lotjx. Thing is, though, the NCAA will lose more if a team like Boise gets excluded and Congress begins to make serious overtures towards laying the legal hammer down. They're better off taking their chances with the smaller schools, even if a playoff is where things will ultimately lead, because at least they'll get to dictate how it turns out rather than being dictated to by Congress.


Even if Congress did get involved I think it would lead to what we had before the BCS rather than a playoff. No one can blame you for excluding them if you're not even trying to name a real champion, like the old days.

Besides, if Texas and Bama or Florida go undefeated, no one will care a bit about what happens to Boise State or TCU.

Every year something happens where people insist THIS will be what leads to a playoff. Nothing will lead to a playoff. No matter what worst case scenario you come up with, they aren't moving to a playoff because of it. That much should be pretty clear by now.
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