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messenoir
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Since: 20.2.02
From: Columbia, MO

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
This is copied and pasted from the OO Forums. I haven't verified them, so not sure how accurate the numbers are. But, if the numbers are true, the voting results are really screwed up. This is a county Kerry won, btw.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm

Voting legerdemain ahoy! Keep in mind that provisional and overseas ballots are not yet counted, so these "ballots cast" totals are, if anything, low:

Bay Village: 13,710 registered voters; 18,663 ballots cast
Beachwood: 9,943 registered voters; 13,939 ballots cast
Bedford: 9,942 registered voters; 14,465 ballots cast
Bedford Heights: 8,142 registered voters; 13,512 ballots cast
Brooklyn: 8,016 registered voters; 12,303 ballots cast
Brooklyn Heights: 1,144 registered voters; 1,869 ballots cast
Chagrin Falls (VIL): 3,557 registered voters; 4,860 ballots cast
Cuyahoga Heights: 570 registered voters; 1,382 ballots cast
Fairview Park: 13,342 registered voters; 18,472 ballots cast
Highland Hills: 760 registered voters; 8,822 ballots cast (Over ELEVEN TIMES more votes than voters! You get the cookie!)
Independence: 5,735 registered voters; 6,226 ballots cast
Mayfield (VIL): 2,764 registered voters; 3,145 ballots cast
Middleburg Heights: 12,173 registered voters; 14,854 ballots cast
North Olmsted: 25,794 registered voters; 25,887 ballots cast
Oakwood (VIL): 2,746 registered voters; 7,099 ballots cast
Olmsted Falls: 6,538 registered voters; 7,328 ballots cast
Pepper Pike: 5,131 registered voters; 6,479 ballots cast
Rocky River: 16,600 registered voters; 20,070 ballots cast
Solon (Ward 6): 2,292 registered voters; 4,300 ballots cast
South Euclid: 16,902 registered voters; 16,917 ballots cast
Strongsville (Ward 3): 7,806 registered voters; 12,108 ballots cast
University Heights: 10,072 registered voters; 11,982 ballots cast
Warrensville Heights: 10,562 registered voters; 15,039 ballots cast
Woodmere (VIL): 558 registered voters; 8,854 ballots cast (Oh no, wait! SIXTEEN TIMES! You get a cookie, too!)
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Well, the page that goes with that link says ...the ballots cast totals for municipalities on this web page and on the summary report needs to be derived by using the following technique: ... For municipalities without wards, please refer to the contest of interest on the canvass report. so I'll do that with your cookie places.



Issue #42, the Highland Hills Village charter amendment, shows 289 yes or no votes recorded in their tally.


    Woodmere (VIL): 558 registered voters; 8,854 ballots cast (Oh no, wait! SIXTEEN TIMES! You get a cookie, too!)



Issue #110, the Woodmere Village proposed ordinance, shows 287 yes or no votes recorded in their tally.

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messenoir
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Since: 20.2.02
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I didn't write the cookie thing, but point taken. Like I said, I didn't verify the statistics, and they could be all wrong.
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Since: 28.3.02
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What happened was the turnout numbers were wrong. The vote totals were right. Trust me. We've crunched this lord knows how many times at the office and come up with correct vote totals each time.
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Since: 12.2.02
From: Cleveland, Ohio

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Good to see Garfield Heights isn't on the list, although it almost looks like the *only* Cuyahoga county community not mentioned. WHOOO-HOOO - go Garfield! No voter fraud here at all! We can run a clean vote! YAY!

Oh wait, the school levy went down in flaming defeat. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Hey, #500 post as well! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...



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PalpatineW
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Since: 2.1.02
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Don't have a web link for this yet, but John Fund said on FOX News last night that the error resulted in the voting machine or software attributing all the absentee ballots to Cuyahoga county.

Edit: And here, from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1100082911218052.xml


    The problem stems from an election canvassing report posted on the county's Web site, where the number of "ballots cast" in several suburbs exceeds the number of registered voters.

    For example, the documents suggest that 13,939 ballots were cast in Beachwood, though only 9,943 voters are registered there.

    But county officials say that's not how the data should be read. The "ballots cast" is not a reflection of the votes within a city's borders; the numbers also include votes in the congressional and legislative districts that overlap with the cities.


I'll admit that explanation confuses me. Does that mean that the ballot totals of City X were added to the totals of every other town in the same congressional district?

Either way, the Plain Dealer says it's nothing to worry about.

(edited by PalpatineW on 12.11.04 0843)


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