I love Big Bad's thread about the half-year Oscar picks. But after a few days of deliberation, it's time to move to the other end of the spectrum. As many know, the Razzies are the annual "honors" for the worst in film. And since the majority of the smark nation is cynical in nature and with plenty of subpar films (including many sequels NOBODY ASKED FOR), we should have plenty to fill this thread with.
So with that in mind, what are your picks for the WORST in film this year?
Thus far, for me, the frontrunner for Worst Film of the Year would have to be Dumb & Dumberer. Pile this under "Colossally Bad Ideas". It was so bad that Jim Carrey, Jeff Daniels, and the Farrelly Brothers wanted absolutely nothing to do with it and with good reason. Even Eugene Levy couldn't make this one watchable. It's a good 90 minutes of my life that I'll never get back and I'll NEVER forgive my girlfriend for dragging me to see it. "Looks pretty good" my ass!
Dishonorable mention goes to Kangaroo Jack. I don't know WHO thought this was a good idea. And the fact that it actually TOPPED the box office for a week should be a sign of the Apocalypse.
Through hellfire and makeup, it's...uh...THIS GUY!
And yeah, I don't care how good the first two were, Terminator 3 should have come out LOOOONG AGO. Not now.
I think everything one needs to know about Terminator 3 can be summed up thusly:
Edward Furlong turned the movie down.
And, if memory serves (and if the rumors were correct), Linda Hamilton tangled up the production because she "won" 1/2 (or 1/3 depending where you read it) of the rights to the movie, and wouldn't sell them back to Cameron.
But yeah, Furlong was slated to play Conner, but had to be recast due to his continuing drug problem. Nick Stahl got the part of John Conner.
"Grabbin your butt? That's not very lady-like." "I'm not a lady." "Oh. Whatever."
And yeah, I don't care how good the first two were, Terminator 3 should have come out LOOOONG AGO. Not now.
I think everything one needs to know about Terminator 3 can be summed up thusly:
Edward Furlong turned the movie down.
And, if memory serves (and if the rumors were correct), Linda Hamilton tangled up the production because she "won" 1/2 (or 1/3 depending where you read it) of the rights to the movie, and wouldn't sell them back to Cameron.
But yeah, Furlong was slated to play Conner, but had to be recast due to his continuing drug problem. Nick Stahl got the part of John Conner.
I might be being somewhat thick here but I didn't think Cameron had any intention of continuing "Terminator," (even without the original ending, "T2" seems to wrap everything up pretty handily) and it's basically another desperate bid for Arnold to regain his box office prominence.
Y'know, like "End of Days." Now THERE was an monumentally Razzie flick.
-LS "ahhh...vague, mandatory knee-jerk cynicism. God Bless Internet Forums.."
I really don't know about that Enojado Viento. For those who've gone through the Ultimate T2 DVD set, Cameron does talk about a third film. In the featurette for T2 3D, he said that it would be a stepping stone to bridge to the next (THIRD) Terminator film. So I don't think Cameron completely closed the door. My guess is that AOL/TW turned down or didn't want to deal with Cameron's budget, but they made the movie without Cameron and it ended up with a production budget way over $200 million anyway. One number I heard was $266 million which sounds pretty absurd. Oh well. Cameron had absolutely no involvement at all in this movie, and if you want to hear Cameron's dig at T3, rent or buy the extreme edition T2 on DVD.
Sorry for getting off topic...Hey razzie picks. Ok for worst movie, I say give a nod to Daredevil.
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The Brown Bunny, an art film by Vincent Gallo, was said to the worst film in the history of the Cannes Film Festival, and perhaps one of the worst films of all time.
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Oliva: You are the weakest link! Goodbye!
Stewie: Ahahaha. Oh God, that's funny. That's really funny. You write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' You know I've never heard anyone make that joke before. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference that outside program before. Because that's what she says on the show, right? Hmmm? 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' And ye...ye..yet you've taken it and....and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. What a clever, smart girl you must be. To come up with a joke like that all by yourself. Mmmmm...that's so fresh too. Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. Mmmm? Cuz i'm here God you're so funny!
Originally posted by drjayphdPlease tell me it was an honest mistake that you forgot to mention From Justin to Kelly. There is nothing that could redeem this tripe.
Ummmm, dude...don't tell me you saw this. You were forced at gunpoint...right?
As far as T3 goes, I have been pretty down on it myself...BUT! I have a good friend who works for one of the big Disney owned movie dot.com sites (he is usually quite film snobbish) and he saw a screener of the film and had this to say:
"Awesome. Big and ridiculous, but utterly, ass-kickingly awesome.
Totally worthy movie. Went in expecting pure dreck (I hate action movies) but was pleasantly surprised – it actually made me laugh (intentionally, even) out loud more than most comedies. Arnold has a bunch of great one liners. Hard to believe he made "Talk to the hand" into a cool catchphrase.
The action kicked ass – better than the Matrix, I thought, just because it was mostly traditional stuff with little CGI. Arnold's actually in pretty good shape. You can buy great steroids with $25 million. And the Terminatrix beams into the past totally naked, which is, well, great.
Only a few clunky sections of expository dialogue ("That's my father's plane. I trained on it" – convenient, eh?), but that's nitpicking when you're talking about an action flick that could have been completely inane.
Plus, they're totally gonna make Terminator 4, and this flick made me actually look forward to that, which is saying something."
Originally posted by drjayphdPlease tell me it was an honest mistake that you forgot to mention From Justin to Kelly. There is nothing that could redeem this tripe.
Really? Because I heard that, if you were only going to see one American Idol themed beach comedy/musical starting two of the least charismatic quasi-celebrities ever, it should be From Justin To Kelly.
Originally posted by drjayphdPlease tell me it was an honest mistake that you forgot to mention From Justin to Kelly. There is nothing that could redeem this tripe.
Really? Because I heard that, if you were only going to see one American Idol themed beach comedy/musical starting two of the least charismatic quasi-celebrities ever, it should be From Justin To Kelly.
I'm actually psyched about that Clay/Ruben buddy comedy idea that got pitched. Fat+Skinny=Funny.
"I really don't know about that Enojado Viento. For those who've gone through the Ultimate T2 DVD set, Cameron does talk about a third film. In the featurette for T2 3D, he said that it would be a stepping stone to bridge to the next (THIRD) Terminator film. So I don't think Cameron completely closed the door. My guess is that AOL/TW turned down or didn't want to deal with Cameron's budget, but they made the movie without Cameron and it ended up with a production budget way over $200 million anyway. One number I heard was $266 million which sounds pretty absurd. Oh well. Cameron had absolutely no involvement at all in this movie, and if you want to hear Cameron's dig at T3, rent or buy the extreme edition T2 on DVD. "
Actually, Jim-boy pretty much told them to shove T3 because he thought it was a bad idea and didn't think it was worth potentially sullying the first two by going back to it after so much time. Add to that the fact that the only reason Arnie agreed to the film was Cameron telling him "Fuck it, just do it and hold 'em up for $30 million", and you haven't got a whole lotta optimism from me.
Plus, the whole concept reeks. The robot army of the future has access to time travel, correct? So why bother sending a potentially obsolete system like the T-800 back in the first place (T1) they've got the T-X waiting in the wings? Why not send the Terminatrix back to take out Sarah Conner once again rather than farting about with the grown JohN Conner and Skynet and all that crap?
Yeah, that whole time travel thing really doesn't hold up. I mean, theoretically they could travel back to the dawn of man and kill us then, like Q in "All Good Things..."
"...everything you know, your entire civilization... It all begins right here, in this little pond of goo."
Doesn't the ending of T2 kind of kill the timeline by which the whole machine future thing could happen? Is this going to need sort sort of deux ex machina where "by golly there was some other stuff lying around that didn't go into the molten steel at the end of T2?" Because I thought that without them having the chip and hand to work with that they couldn't build what they built.
Of course they really just need to say that the whole thing is taking place in the Matrix and watch every action/sci-fi fanboy's brains turn to mush trying to explain it all together.
Dumb and Dumberer just horrible, what's even worse from the ads they made you think Carey and Daniels were actually part of the movie. The only credit I give this move is for the sneaky way of tricking the audience.
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It makes me very sad that the thread got this far with no mention of House of 1000 Corpses. Unless they make a dual sequel to Duece Bigelow and the Animal with Rob Schnieder costarring with himself, House of 1000 Corpses will forever be my measuring stick for worst movie ever.
Just saw my first ad for Gigli, with J-Lo and B-Af. Gentlemen, the polls have closed.
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Oliva: You are the weakest link! Goodbye!
Stewie: Ahahaha. Oh God, that's funny. That's really funny. You write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' You know I've never heard anyone make that joke before. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference that outside program before. Because that's what she says on the show, right? Hmmm? 'You are the weakest link. Goodbye!' And ye...ye..yet you've taken it and....and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. What a clever, smart girl you must be. To come up with a joke like that all by yourself. Mmmmm...that's so fresh too. Any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. Mmmm? Cuz i'm here God you're so funny!
Originally posted by drjayphdNo, I didn't see it. But I'll pass your sympathies to the person who recapped From Justin To Kelly for TV Without Pity.
I don't know. After reading the reviewClick Here (televisionwithoutpity.com) over there, I want to see this movie more than any other cinematic release of my lifetime.
Then again, I'm also the person that did a silent Glitter or Crossroads debate in a video store. I chose the former, if you care. Better to be viewed as someone with bad taste in movies, as opposed to a potential sicko.
MARTIN AND ORLOFF: AMAZING!!! This is the funniest movie since There's Something About Mary and much funnier than that. The film right now is in very limited release in New York playing at the Sunshine on Houston.