Not much conversation going on about this show but I know I’m not the only one watching.
What an ending to a great episode. Mostly built around the Locke character, it was great to keep seeing so many layers be pulled back via flashbacks about who had been the most intriguing character (to me) on the show. I’ll admit I was thinking the guy was bad news what with his backgammon playing and dog whistle building and all and knife throwing. But man do I love the guy now, from the flashbacks of him being a browbeaten cubicle dweller at a job not too unlike mine to the revelation that "Helen" is nothing more than a phone sex operator to the final great reveal of him being wheelchair bound desperately trying to go on a “walkabout” to the realization he could walk again. It was nice seeing so many small pieces from earlier episodes come together (the “miracle” talk, the wheelchair that just happened to be amidst the wreckage). And the guy in the suit watching from the woods has me spooked out. Early guess is it is a figment of the doctor’s imagination and it is his father (he did make reference to his family this episode).
And you just know the older African-American woman’s husband really is alive somewhere else on the beach.
Still no clue what the “monster” is or how the plane crashed but I don’t care. The characters we are slowly being introduced to are the real reason to watch this show.
Wow. Just wow. Brilliantly done, as this show rebounds from a slight misstep from the last episode. It was just an amazingly well put-together and edited show. I haven't been this legitimately shocked since Jack Bauer shot, then decapitated that scuzzball in the second season of "24."
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I'm loving this show. The Locke storyline was really put together well, and I've been pleasantly surprised by everything thus far. I'm anxious to see how the rest of the season shakes out.
I was almost ready to drop the show after the 3rd episode. Last night brought me right back in. Locke facing down the monster(?) is, IMO, going to become a big plot point.
Theory time: the island is going to force them to face their worst fears each in their own way. Locke has already lived his worst fear so the Island can't hurt him. The doctor will have something to do with his father, or whomever the guy in the suit is. The rock star will have to face his addiction and his reason for it.
My wife and I thought this was terrific episode as well. The only issue we had with the show (my wife is a physical therapist) is that this guy has been in a chair for 4 years. His leg muscles would have atrophied to a point where we could not just stand up and run over to the doctor to give him a hand. I know they are asking you to suspend reality in that piece, but we think he should have struggled with walking a little more.
I was really touched by this episode, too. The reveal at the end that Locke was in a wheel chair really got me, especially after you saw people constantly telling him what he couldn't do. Hopefully we'll get to see or hear a little more about Locke's encounter in the jungle with the "monster". Next to Jack, Locke is fast becoming my favorite character on the show, as well. I didn't have a problem with the 3rd episode, but this show just keeps getting better and better and I know I'll be watching it as long as it stays on.
Originally posted by piemanMy wife and I thought this was terrific episode as well. The only issue we had with the show (my wife is a physical therapist) is that this guy has been in a chair for 4 years. His leg muscles would have atrophied to a point where we could not just stand up and run over to the doctor to give him a hand. I know they are asking you to suspend reality in that piece, but we think he should have struggled with walking a little more.
Trauma-induced recovery or no trauma-induced recovery, I was thinking the same thing. But you have to remember one thing: this is Locke we're talking about, and Locke is awesome. So it's his awesomeness that allowed him to bypass any recovery time necessary. Besides, he stared The Wild McGuffin down and lived to (not) tell about it.
Great episode, and I am seriously into this shit right now. Although now I wonder what the signifigance of Suit Guy is.
I was watching at work, and the people who came up to the desk were wondering what I was staring at with my mouth dropped open at the end there. Great episode, and brick's theory is brilliant enough to work. I've noticed that the monster shows up at times when somebody is lying/freaking out/emoting intensely, so I too think it has something to do with feeling/fears/whatever. Except I'm not sure what the how that equates to the pilot getting skinned alive. I think the ratings are holding up (a first for ABC and for a JJ Abrams project!), so hopefully it sticks around a while.
At the beginning I wondered how they could make this last for more then one season. They're only on Day 4 of "real-time" and they've barely scratched the surface of all the back stories of the castaways.
Jack seems to be the next one who gets explained. He clearly has setup some sort of wall to deal with death. He had no problem burning the bodies but got real uncomfortable at the thought of attaching names to the dead.
This show is almost as addictive as the first season of 24.
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I give this show credit, as it's really surprised me. Brick's theory holds alot of validity, but I've also heard another theory that they're all dead and in purgatory. The black lady who stated that her husband wasn't dead could tie into that.
I was also thinking that there might be TWO monsters in the jungle. The Good Monster of the North (who helped Locke) and the Evil Monster of the West (who's more malicious). It would tie into the whole duality black-white thing that the writers seemed to be touching on in part 2.
But frick...I can't figure out how the French message ties into anything.
I didn't think Locke was talking to a phone-sex operator... I thought he was talking to a helpdesk operator. Simply cuz' "Helen" doesn't sound like a phone-sex name. I thought that maybe he had called tech-support while at work and "met" her that way. If you think about it, that's even MORE desparate, lonely and pathetic than calling for phone-sex. That would fit his character more, I think.
Originally posted by piemanMy wife and I thought this was terrific episode as well. The only issue we had with the show (my wife is a physical therapist) is that this guy has been in a chair for 4 years. His leg muscles would have atrophied to a point where we could not just stand up and run over to the doctor to give him a hand. I know they are asking you to suspend reality in that piece, but we think he should have struggled with walking a little more.
A popular theory making the rounds is that this is some kind of "fantasy island," since a number of things have happened right after people have "wished for them."
When Locke's boss asked him for his "TPS reports" I started scanning the screen for the guys from Office Space.
The Avalon Hill wargaming at lunch also dominated.
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In case any of you wanted to know, ABC went ahead and picked up LOST for the whole season. So far, it's the third highest rated new series, behind DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES and CSI: NEW YORK.
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I did not see the Korean woman knowing how to speak English. Once again I've been thrown a wonderful curve ball. It really is a shame she couldn't get away from her husband and ended up on the island stuck with him, though. I can imagine seeing those dead bodies by the fresh water had to take the wind out of their sails. All in all, not a bad episode and it looks like Charlie and the drug problem is going to make for a great hour next week.
But she loves him, not the person he tried to become. Now that they're on the island, he can be that man again for her. Awww
I'm looking forward to Charlie's withdrawal. Should be great stuff.
"When did they pass a law that says the people who make my sandwich have to be wearing gloves? I'm not comfortable with this. I don't want glove residue all over my food; it's not sanitary. Who knows where these gloves have been?" - George Carlin
Did they say why she knew English? I'm not sure if they said and I missed it. My only guess is that when she left she was planning on going to American and therefore learned English?
Originally posted by QuezzyDid they say why she knew English? I'm not sure if they said and I missed it. My only guess is that when she left she was planning on going to American and therefore learned English?
When she was talking with her co-conspiritor about the escape plan they mentioned her lessons, so that was what I assumed they were talking about.
I didn't see them splitting the groups so soon. I'm sure there will be some future conflict there.
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