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Since: 3.1.02
From: Philly

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Petals Around The Rose

It's said that the smarter you are, the harder this is to figure out. I saw the solution instantly, which means I should be sterilized. Will you?

(Do NOT post the answer here. I'm just curious as to whether anyone else finds it difficult.)




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Since: 13.1.03
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
Got it on the 2nd try, maybe 30 seconds in. My wife and I have no children, so this is apparently a good thing.



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Since: 22.2.04
From: Cambridge, MA

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
Got it after about 20 minutes, and I had seen this puzzle before but couldn't figure it out then. Despite what it says, I feel like a retard for not getting it sooner.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Oconomowoc, WI

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.57
I got it right the first time, after staring at it for 10 seconds or so. Tried again and got it right again.

Not sure how this would be an inverse measure of intelligence, though. There seems to be a use of logic to get at what the game might mean. It seemed like there could only be one conclusion, given the tools used to create the game.



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Von Maestro
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Since: 6.1.04
From: New York

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
I'm feel badly for the students at the University of Michigan. I would not want to pay to be taught by a guy who took over a year to figure this simple puzzle out!!
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Since: 2.1.02
From: Philly Suburbs

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Took 2-3 minutes (don't remember how many rolls, probably 3 or 4). Tried a couple different methods before figuring it out.



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Since: 25.6.03
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
    Originally posted by Von Maestro
    I'm feel badly for the students at the University of Michigan. I would not want to pay to be taught by a guy who took over a year to figure this simple puzzle out!!


He's actually quite an intelligent guy. He's created a lot of these "games". When I was there he taught in the Architecture and Urban Planning department. One of my friends took a class of his and said he was an absolute laugh riot. Used games for everything. I think that was the only class my friend ever got all his homework done in.

I, personally, have never seen this game, though. Took me about 2 or 3 minutes.




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Andouille








Since: 17.11.03
From: Tallahassee, FL

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.85
I got it in about 10 minutes, but it was a hell of a struggle for those 10 minutes until I got there.



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Since: 15.2.02
From: Dallas

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.01
Got it on the second try.

Tricky.



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Since: 13.2.02
From: Back in the Heart of Hali

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03

Funny to see this one appear again.

I was introduced to it by my Dad when I was ten years old or so. He loved burning people with it. His introductory patter generally started with something like, "This was shown to me once after a long and heated argument as to whether the toilet paper should hang away from the wall or against it..."

I think he said he picked it up at an Urban Planning conference, so maybe he saw the guy from UMich do a presentation. Or maybe that's where the guy from UMich got it.

I've tried to pass it on to others, but I'm not enough of a bastard. If someone hounds me enough, I'll spill. Dad strung me along for almost a week before I got it, but I've never forgotten. I've had friends who've gotten it in seconds and others who've taken significantly longer. None of them are what I'd call dumb either.

I must say I believe it to be different to have it on a website than to have a person show it to you with real dice and a "presentation." Every time he rolled the dice, Dad would repeat, almost as if it was a mantra, "The name of the game is petals around the rose. The name of the game is significant. How many petals around the rose?" He also liked to show people in groups, which can make it even more maddening for those who are not getting it.




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Since: 12.1.02
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
Seemed pretty simple. Just requires a bit of abstract and creative thinking.



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Since: 22.2.04
From: Cambridge, MA

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
    Originally posted by StampedeFan23
    Seemed pretty simple. Just requires a bit of abstract and creative thinking.


But not too much abstract and creative thinking. Looking deeply for vague patterns and correlations is what made me scratch my head for so long on this. Then I gave up and tried what I thought was a stupid solution and it worked. Funny thing is I thought I had figured it out with a crazy number pattern/equation and had it right for 6 or 7 rolls, but that ended up being pure coincidence.



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Andouille








Since: 2.11.02
From: Edinburgh, Scotland

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
5 minutes but they were a LONG 5 minutes. I was actually really close to the solution on the first go, but then I went way off on funny tangents and started to out think myself. Which arguably isn't that difficult for me.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
Figured it out on the second try, and mathematical/pattern searching/analytical thought is a strength of mine.

Perhaps I was too good at word problems in elementary school? :)



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Since: 3.1.02
From: Northern NJ

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
2nd try - my answer and the correct answer on the first try gave the game away



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Since: 1.8.02
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
Can you imagine, if you only had a "correct/incorrect" feedback response (rather than the actual number), it'd be hideously annoying! And it is quite helpful to have the hints to keep it simple.

Now everybody who said "second try" did several more passes of the game, just to make sure they had it completely correct, right? I had it partway correct on the second try, but needed a couple more rolls to get the complete solution.
dwaters
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Since: 16.10.02
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.57
As one that got it right away, I don't understand the confusion.
I mean, petals on a rose, what else can it be? It's not like there's a ton of options. I know people on another board who said it took six hours. I guess I don't get how you can't get this. (Not trying to sound arrogant, just confused)
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.27
    Originally posted by dwaters
    As one that got it right away, I don't understand the confusion.
    I mean, petals on a rose, what else can it be? It's not like there's a ton of options. I know people on another board who said it took six hours. I guess I don't get how you can't get this. (Not trying to sound arrogant, just confused)


I have the same feeling, I guessed right the first time, missed it a couple of times after that, and then figured it out after about four wrong answers...maybe five-seven minutes.




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Since: 1.2.02
From: Appleton, WI

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.42
It took me three tries before I understood what "around the rose" meant. Then it was simple.



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Since: 4.1.02
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.60
Does anyone happen to know of a website that has a collection of logic puzzles like this? I love this kind of stuff.......even though I bombed horribly on this one. My only hint is that it's not so obvious that you'll feel like a Grade A idiot if you can't get it right away.



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