One can't help but wonder if, given the apparent prevalence of steroid use among baseball players in the mid-late 1990's, Caminiti might be the first of many players to have untimely deaths. It sounds macabre to say, but just look at the death toll of wrestlers.
It may have made the heart weaker for the other stuff he was using. Maybe it's going to take things like this to actually get people in baseball and the league as a whole to realize that there is more at stake than just stats and records.
As unfortunate as it is, I have to agree with Big Bad. This could be the first of many sports deaths with steroid implications since Lyle Alzado. What we as wrestling fans have learned about the results of steroid/drug use will soon become mainstream knowledge. I enjoyed Cammy's gutty F-U attitude, and will always remember the I.V. game in Monterrey against the Mets.
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Originally posted by sonicslapshotIt is truly sad. My lasting memory of him will be his defense. No one had that kind of arm at third. I patterned my game after his defense
Hey man, me too. Caminiti could chuck it. I remember in the early 90s my dream left side for throwing arms was Caminiti and Shawon Dunston. Always liked Caminiti, and yeah, this could just be the start, unfortunately.
Originally posted by StaggerLeeEasy to make big throws with a juiced up arm.
RIP Ken, hope it was all worth it.
Caminiti made those kind of throws long before he was on the juice. You have no clue what you're talking about and, IMHO, are being an ass. A little respect for the dead never hurt anyone.
I have great baseball memories of Caminiti, as I lived in Houston when he came up. He was an amazing defensive player and had the best 3b arm I've ever seen. It's a shame that he turned to drugs, and I am sorry for the impact on his family.
Sorry you feel I am being an ass. All I was saying is, its easy to throw faster when you have an unnatural enhancement. If he threw that well beforehand, then great, I didnt see much of him early on. I only saw the big jawed muscle head who won the MVP.
But, I find it hard to be respectful of somebody when they die of something that is probably of thier own doing. I dont cry for drunks who die of liver failure or heroin addicts that OD, I surely am not going to get upset about a ball player who dies of something that is symptomatic with horrible steroid use.
Originally posted by StaggerLeeSorry you feel I am being an ass. I find it hard to be respectful of somebody when they die of something that is probably of thier own doing. I dont cry for drunks who die of liver failure or heroin addicts that OD, I surely am not going to get upset about a ball player who dies of something that is symptomatic with horrible steroid use.
I feel bad for his family, but not for him.
No, the "ass" part comes in when you post publicly about it amongst mourners.
Caminiti was a tremendous player that obviously gave it his all on the field, as others have said, it's too bad he couldn't enjoy a better life off of it.
It's a sad day for us Padre fans. He was one hell of a ballplayer, a gamer. He played most of 1996 with a severely torn rotator cuff in his right arm that required major surgery, and he still made those throws. There was the Snickers/IV game in Monterey. They just showed his greatest defensive play ever on the news, in 1996 in Miami... diving to his right, landing on the third base line and throwing a strike to first from his ASS!!! Eight years later, and I am still amazed every time I see it... the 1996 NL MVP earned respect on the field. Yes, he had his demons. Yes, he took steroids. But at least he had the balls to admit it.
My lasting moment of Camimiti won't be what he did on the field, though. It will be the huge standing ovations he got during the last night game at Qualcomm Stadium last year. Seeing him truly touched, teared up, by the response of the Padre fans after they showed a video montage of him will be what I remember... a man with a huge heart... may you forever rest in peace, Cammy.
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Unfortunately, preliminary reports are that his death may have been from a drug overdose. Final toxicology reports will not be available until later.
This is really sad to hear. I liked the guy a lot when he was playing, thought he seemed like a good guy. I was impressed (and yes, disappointed) when he actually came forth and admitted steriod use. Terrible that someone should die so early on.
(edit) sorry, pieman beat me by 2 minutes.
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Oct. 15, 2004, 1:32AM N.Y. pathologists deny report Caminiti died of an overdose Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle
The New York City Medical Examiner's Office is denying a report that preliminary results of the autopsy on Ken Caminiti show that the former National League Most Valuable Player died of a drug overdose.
A story posted on ESPN.com late Thursday stated that a New York City police source told ESPN that the former Houston Astro died of an overdose.
Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for the Medical Examiner's Office, said that after the story was posted, she awoke the pathologist who performed the autopsy. He said the tests are not complete and no cause of death has been determined.
The tests should be in by midweek, she said.
"I don't know where this is coming from, and I'm trying to quiet it down — the tests aren't finalized," Borakove said. "This is not at all fair to his family."
It's all over but the crying in the Bronx. Bonderman just absolutely shuts down the Yanks, as the Tigers win the series in an 8-3 rout. Final A-Rod watch: 0 for 3 to finish the series 1 for 14.
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