It was enjoyable until De Niro came out and it went horribly off the rails for me. The monologue was decent, not sure if "Slow Jam the News" and "Lick it for $10" will be every night or even recurring features, (and they were entertaining but could get played out if used too much), but his interviewing skills are going to have to get much better.
Maybe years of fanhood have clouded my memory, but I really don't recall Conan being that awkward in his first interviews (John Goodman, I believe). His interviews with De Niro and Timberlake almost devolved into "Chris Farley Show" territory and were just uncomfortable to watch. It was clever that he played off the fact that De Niro doesn't do a lot of these types of interviews, but it was still no less awkward. I had already flipped over to Ferguson on TiVo during JT, but expected him to interrupt Van Morrisson's performance to talk about his brown eyes. Reminiscing with De Niro and JT about past SNL experiences and the like was pretty much Chevy Chase-like, which is not a great sign.
I would imagine he will have the space and time to get better at the interviewing part, and I would expect him to, once he's used up all his favors from friends and can interview people he doesn't have a prior relationship with, but we'll see.
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I am going to DVR a couple of these to watch, but Craig's normally on my DVR at this time.
I must admit, I have never found Fallon funny, but I didn't find Craig as monstrously hilarious on the Drew Carey Show as I do now either. So I will give him a change. But, like I said, he's always been unfunny for me. In fact, for me, one of the unfunniest guys ever on SNL.
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You are spot on. I have nver like Fallon and with the exception of a few skits (Barry Gibb Talk Show, Debbie Downer) that were made MORE funny but people losing it during the skit and Weekend Update (w/ Tina Fey), he has never brought a smile to my face.
When Conan first prmiered, I gave him more of a chance because I did not know who he was. I liked the fact that a relative unknown was getting a shot at Late Night. Wit Fallon, I already hate him, know his limitations and feel his show will not succeed. I hope I am wrong and he turns it around. But for guys I knew about becoming talk show hosts, only Jimmy Kimmel and Craig Ferguson (and Jon Stewart) have succeeded in my eyes.
I will flip ovr from time to time, but with Conan gone, my loyalty goes with Ferguson now.
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It was pretty bad. I wasn't expecting much - but he managed to deliver less. I guess it's early and I should give him another shot - I'm going to watch tonight because Tina Fey is on - and I'll probably put it on in a few weeks to see if he catches a rhythm, but it looks like I'll be able to start sleeping earlier.
In reality, the stuff that's going to make Fallon a hit probably won't happen any time soon. I'll check it out tonight, just to see it (missed it last night), but if it does get into it's swing it probably won't be for another 6 months, not 4 weeks.
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Originally posted by OliverDid they give Conan a proper send-off?
They did in Conan's last episode (almost last week). I've seen several clips on NBC's website and it was very classy/well done IMHO.
Speaking of which, Conan took awhile to get his groove. I recall Mr. T even made a joke about that once. On the 10th anniversary show Conan received a gold chain with a 7 on it.
Conan: "Mr T, I've been on the air for ten years".
Mr. T: "Yeah, but you've only been funny for seven!".
I doubt Fallon will get 3 years to find his groove, but he'll need time most likely.
(edited by El Nastio on 3.3.09 1212) You know, I really don't know what to put here. Close your eyes and thank of something funny!
Originally posted by BoromirMarkFirst off, Tina Fey is worthless.
*throws down gauntlet*
Craig Ferguson just gained another regular viewer. I have no interest whatsoever in watching Jimmy Fallon bluff his way through a talk show.
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Originally posted by El Nastio SOME people don't have the benefit of being a spin-off of an already successful show.
*blink*
He's doing LATE NIGHT!
As for benefit, he is one step removed from Goddess Tina Fey. Jimmy Kimmel had Adam Carolla. ADAM. CAROLLA.
They said the same thing with Conan. For three years, in fact. I suppose we can agree to disagree here, but I'm of the mindset we should see where it goes from here.
You know, I really don't know what to put here. Close your eyes and thank of something funny!
As much as Colbert's doing late night, he's also doing a character, which he honed for years before his debut.
I thought the whole point behind the 12:30 slot is that no one is watching then, so if it takes a few years for someone to mature into a talk show host, who cares? Its like the minor leagues for the 11:30 slot.
I'm with Big Bad on the Tina Fey debate.
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Originally posted by EddieBurkettI thought the whole point behind the 12:30 slot is that no one is watching then, so if it takes a few years for someone to mature into a talk show host, who cares? Its like the minor leagues for the 11:30 slot.
Well he's on at 11:30 in Denver but I guess they don't really give a damn about that demographic.
What irritates me is that Conan isn't scheduled to take over for Leno until June 1. So for the next 2 1/2 months, we get the Double Whammy of Comedy Suck with Leno/Fallon.
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Originally posted by OliverDid they give Conan a proper send-off?
Conan actually got a week long send-off. Monday through Thursday they had the usual interviews but the entire monologue was dedicated to flashing back. Then the final night they dedicated the whole show to reviewing the show's past and Andy Richter sat in instead of having a guest.
I like both Ferguson and Kimmel so I doubt I'll even flip over to Fallon.
I like 30 Rock so I'll give Tina that but being head writer for SNL did nothing for me. I don't think there was a single episode I saw that I would consider good. She did have a lousy cast to work with (Jimmy Fallon included) but it still wasn't that well written written either.
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