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Ana Ng

Since: 6.8.02
From: Naples, FL, USA

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#1 Posted on
So people keep saying that the current state of the WWE is much like the dying days of WCW. I don't necessarily agree with that, because I really don't see WWE dying, but here's a similarity.

Time was when it was a real bitch to get WWF tickets. You had to wait in line forever to get halfway decent seats. Arenas sold out in a day, sometimes in an hour. Well, those days are very much over. I got pretty good seats at Armageddon online, with ease. And shows don't sell out like they used to.

At the end of WCW, they had to resort to giving a lot of the tickets away. I went to 3 WCW shows on free tickets, myself. Well, it looks like WWE is doing the same thing. There's a house show about 30 minutes from where I live, and yesterday I saw a commercial for the local Kia dealership. "Test drive a Kia, and get two free WWE tickets!"

That's right, free tickets for test-driving a Kia. Not the first 10 people who come down there, everyone. Sad, really sad.

So of course, I plan on test-driving a Kia tomorrow. ;)

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Thunderous Iron Moose!

Since: 16.6.02
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

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#2 Posted on
When Raw came to Montreal in October, I went to the Bell Centre with the intent to wait 'till everyone got in, and then ask a security guard to let me in to buy a shirt.

And... well, here's what happened , courtesy of an ICQ log with a good friend of mine.

Iron Moose: (12:04 AM) I was at RAW. Why? Because they COMPED ME!
Iron Moose: (12:05 AM) Bought an RVD shirt and two of the dragon necklaces. Good crowd, stupid storylines and a funny 'lil tech f*ckup.

Paul Segal: (12:06 AM) comped you?

Iron Moose: (12:06 AM) Gave me a complimentary ticket.

"I'd just like to buy a shirt. Can I get in without a ticket?"
"Do you wanna see the show?"
"Um... sure. "
"Here's a ticket. Enjoy. "

I got to sit RIGHT behind the fixed camera, too.


And there you have it.

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Wolfram J. Paulovich

Since: 11.11.02
From: Fat City, Baby

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#3 Posted on
Moose, you've got one amazingly funny screen name. Wish I'd thought of that. Well, not for my screen name, but for something... like a song title. Yeah, a love song.

Forgive me, my tastes skew to the silly.

I remember buying Survivor Series 2000 tickets online, very late in the second day of sales, and still getting good seats. This was still in the time of 7.0 Raw ratings and easily sold-out crowds. The show was in Tampa, too, and the WWE doesn't come to the West coast of Florida with the same frequency as they do the East. In short, the tickets should have sold out in no time at all.

On online tickets, Ana Ng (great name, too, by the way... majestic presence as well), I think the WWE then and now apportion a certain number of seats for online sales. Again, the fact that we could get tickets was a surprise. What's the sense in setting aside seats for online sales? Not to be conspiratorial, but you could make three very easy arguments for it:
1. You get a more upscale clientele buying, as these people are sophisticated enough to save time and buy online. Also, they have a computer....
2. You're getting the youth audience, locking in a new generation. They pay online with Dad's card.
3. You're getting the "smart" audience.

I don't buy into any of these. Frankly, I think that they might just set some seats aside for the hell of it. Some promotions do that. If memory serves, Pac Bell Park did something like that for SF Giants games in their first year there, but I may be confusing and conflating things.

At any rate, the KIA thing is pathetic. Both the giveaway and the fact that a Korean car company decided to name their car after the military acronym for, "Killed In Action."

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Since: 1.8.02
From: Phoenix-ish

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#4 Posted on
Somebody is defintely pushing the internet sales. I was on Ticketmaster this weekend to get tickets for January. The on-sale dates were billed as Sat 12/7/02 at 10:00AM. However, the Phoenix show also had listed a "Special Internet-only Pre-Sale" from Thu 12/5/02 at 10:00AM to Fri 12/6/02 at 5:00PM. (Given that I discovered this at 6:00PM Friday, I was just a touch peeved.) The Tucson show, which had the same on-sale date, didn't have the "Internet Pre-Sale".

No clue whether its WWE, Ticketmaster or maybe even the local venue that made the decision to do that.

Since: 6.1.02
From: Pittsburgh, PA

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#5 Posted on
Well i don't know about this WWE looks like the dying days of WCW stuff. I don't really see many simliaraties. The ticket thing is just because wrestling isn't popular anymore.

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Since: 12.10.02
From: Canada

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#6 Posted on
An out of date cripple as the champ who doesn't do house shows. The glass ceiling. The inmate running the asylum. The countless failed hotshots. Nah, nothing like WCW at all.

Since: 24.7.02

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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    An out of date cripple as the champ who doesn't do house shows. The glass ceiling. The inmate running the asylum. The countless failed hotshots. Nah, nothing like WCW at all.

Actually, I think its more like WCW in the pre-Nitro months of '95. Either they have to change direction (as WCW did:they went from Hogan defending the World Title once in six months to having world title matches that fans were interested in most weeks) or continue upon the same course hoping that some hot-shot angle will turn the tide. Remember, if WCW had stayed in its mid-'95 mode, the impact of the Outsiders would in all likelihood have been minimal. If the WWF/E begins to change, then the odds are greater that the interest will be there when they try to develop the angle that brings them back to mainstream relevance.

I want you to know, I agree with everything I've just said.
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