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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
The OTR Vince interview revealed Hulk Hogan was sending out feelers, saying he was 100% healthy and ready to come back. Vince countered by laughing it off, saying Hogan was done an active wrestler in WWE, but wouldn't rule out the odd pop every now and then.
I know there are alot of Hogan haters out there. But for a man who has had such an amazing run, jobbing to Big Show wearing a blue mask isn't the send off he deserves.
There's still key money matches to be had using him.
Do you think WWE can benefit from the return of Hulk Hogan?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
Yes, I think they can benefit from him returning, BUT, only if it is on a rare appearance sort of basis and definitely if it is only to put younger talent over. I'm a complete Hogan mark, and I can safely say my favorite wrestling related moment of all time would be when I was in attendance at a Nitro where Hogan won the WCW title, and I will still be the first to tell you he does not need to make a long term comeback or any sort of extended stay. Have him come in every now and then, certainly don't have him wrestle on tv, that could be saved for a PPV, and then have him lose to said talent. Wash, Rinse, Repeat, etc...



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.77

Does it surprise anyone that Hogan wants in? Hogan's time has passed. I give Hogan his due as a legend in the business and being the measuring stick in which future franchise cornerstones will be compared to.

My main beef with Hogan is that he won't let go of his 80's rock n' wrestling run. Everything he touches turns into an 80's rehash. Even during the nWo heyday, things were awesome when the tone was set by then WWF outlaws Hall and Nash. They were so cool until they joined in on everything they set out to fight against, Huckster, Billionaire Ted, The Nacho Man, etc.

Hogan being the third man in the New World Order was acceptable. But when they let the Mach-Old Man on the bandwagon, things began to go downhill. Hogan, though he wasn't always on the best of terms with the Nacho Man, couldn't come to terms with the fact that stars from the new generation were spearheading in another era of the business. So, instead of Hall, Nash, and Syxx branching off as their own as the Wolfpac and warring against Hogan, Savage, and the rest of the nWo, they split Hall and Nash up. Bad Bad move.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
I think Smackdown really needs something and Hogan coming back would do it. You want to turn Cena, there you go. Have Hogan come out and just let John talk, instant fued. It also gives the show a shot in the arm, because their current roster sucks. When Bradshaw is main eventing two PPVs in a row, then your show sucks. I love Eddie, Booker, Rey and Cena, but man, they need something. I don't know if Hogan is it, but I doubt it would do that much harm. Just keep and Taker away from the title and it will be fine.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
    Originally posted by A Fan
    I think Smackdown really needs something and Hogan coming back would do it. You want to turn Cena, there you go. Have Hogan come out and just let John talk, instant fued.





I agree with the premise that Cena should be a heel and that his act as a face is stale. However, I don't think Hogan is the person who could turn Cena heel. Unless they did it in Canada or on Hogan's first night back, Cena confronting Hogan probably would prevent a Cena heel turn, as the crowd would love it.
They've played the Hogan card a few times already. It worked initially in '02, only to help lead to the decline when Hogan was overexposed and became champ again. They tried it again in '03 to no real boost. Why would going to the well yet again work in '04?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
    Originally posted by insignia
    But for a man who has had such an amazing run, jobbing to Big Show wearing a blue mask isn't the send off he deserves.


That's the send-off he gave himself. He walked off in the middle of an angle that SD! was pushing hard. He was hardly done dirty. I wanted him to stay with the fed long enough to make it to WMXX and get a proper retirement reception by the industry and fans at MSG.


    Do you think WWE can benefit from the return of Hulk Hogan?


The WWE could always do well to remind folks of the heyday of WWF/E and the height of those fans' enjoyment. Most of my purest, simplest moments of entertainment involved Hogan. They were when I was much younger and watched from a more innocent perspective.

But Hogan, if he were to come back, must be a catalyst, not the engine that powers a show. He should only be used to spark angles through brief promos or put over others who could most benefit from his interaction. I do not want to see him hobble his way through a squash of Jamie Noble or Rene Dupree. The guys that can best benefit from Hogan are performers who operate with a similar cartoony presentation that encourages a suspension of disbelief for matches. That's Hurricane, Spike, RVD, Eugene, and others.

Hogan can bring in the casual and wayward fans, but he must be used to show them something new, not just the by-the-numbers Hogan match we've seen for 20 years.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.66
Very, very good response Matt Tracker. Well thought out and couldn't have been said better. Hogan myopics, READ THIS!!!
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.70
If he was going to SD! yes, Raw, no.

Which basically just shows the bad shape SD! is in.





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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.76
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    If he was going to SD! yes, Raw, no.

    Which basically just shows the bad shape SD! is in.


I think bringing just about any industry established name to SD! just now would be an idea.

I know this won't be popular, but I think if Goldberg was to miraculously appear on SD! it would be a good thing for him to squash a few mid-carders (that includes Bradshaw) and get in a true main event feud with Eddie.

But that's from one of the few Goldberg marks....

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00


As I'm reading everyone's comments it dawns on me how we've never really seen the Hulkster in that elusive "Owner/GM" type of role that so many of his contemporaries have played. Guys like Sgt. Slaughter, Ric Flair, Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff and Roddy Piper have all had great runs with Hogan in the ring and great runs as the "leader" behind the microphone for the WWE.

I'd like to see them bring Hogan back as the new Smackdown GM...maybe have him wrestle one match coming in - feasibly against Kurt for the GM position. Then sit Hulk out of the ring for a good period of time. He can just be an on-air character, not unlike Eric Bischoff is now and I think he would relate well to the Smackdown roster and in helping to get tha show over again. They don't need to blow their wad and make this guy wrestle anymore, because that's stale with pretty much everyone. Simply make the Hulkster the catalyst for feuds and angles - make Hogan a bonafide brand leader for Smackdown - and this is something they could drag on until Hogan is as dead and gone as Freddie Blassie. We don't need to see Hogan as a mananger, or Hogan the color commentator - the fans would probably pop for a Hogan GM spot on Smackdown, though - a totally tweener role, nothing too over the top anymore - the WWE and Hogan need to make a decision at some point as to when the boys in their late 50's - early 60's are gonna start playing the old men roles and stick to em. Hulk still has a few years left to act macho, but I hope we're all still around to see Hogan and Savage doing skits for Shane McMahon's WWE in 2025 the way Vinnie Mac throws Mae, Moolah, Gene and Bobby or whatever other geriatric might be visiting RAW that particular day into senile nonsense.

So what do the rest of you guys think? Hogan as the new GM of Smackdown? Lot's and lot's and lot's of fantasy booking could come of Hogan as GM.

They could even turn it into the 80's WWF again, I bet they could totally tape a Smackdown now with the old ring setup and edit it to look almost exactly like the 80's All-American/Superstars shows. Like a retro week would even be cool. With:

Hogan starring as The Immortal Hulk Hogan
Big Show as Andre the Giant
Eddie Guerrero as Tito Santana
John Cena as Roddy Piper
Booker T as Bad News Brown
Undertaker as The Old Undertaker(with the fucking grey dead man costume, dammit! GREY!)
Rene Dupree as Rick Martel
JBL as Millionaire Dollar Man Ted DiBiase
Rico as Adrian Adonis
Tazz as Jesse Ventura
Michael Cole as Vince McMahon

and now I expect all of you to give other funny examples.

*peace out and here's to seeing the Hulkster jobbing Eddie out of the title backstage, and not in the ring.

why?

because Hogan is far too smart and knows that the fanbase would completely turn on him and the company if he just waltzed back in here and killed our favorite little midget. the midget has gone through alot, and jobbing to Hogan would kill that. let's see hogan come in as a babyface gm for a while, maybe even help eddie along if need be to help give eddie the hulk rub. then around survivor series they can gear up a taker/sting - eddie main event and at some point i'd like to see both hogan and eddie turn heel and maybe somehow make GM Hogan Eddie's co-champion or some heel shit that keeps the title around his waist.

Fuck after writing all this I must be delusional because it seems like i'm really longing for the WWF of the 80's and the WCW of 90's and alot of that's attributed to Hogan. So maybe he should stay gone and we should all just move on. It's hard though - because that "lonely road of faith" we wrestling fans take along with the workers is looking bleak as we head into a future that our industry may not survive in tact. hogan coming is as Smackdown GM won't save us, but again using the established talent to give the rub to the younger guys works if you do it right. That means promotion - I really think we need to see the superstars and the storylines on talk shows more often, and in print all the time. Mainstream if they want to make the transition work. The WWF got huge in the 80's because they put the little fucking ads for SNME in there every week. Just casual people saw those ads and week in and week out they resonated until hulk Hogan became an icon whether we like it or not. It happened to ALF too, also in TV guide every week at the time, so who the fuck knows. I want that again. Weekly full page ads for RAW and Smackdown in TV Guide, of course nothing could be too current as things change so often in the WWE, but something surely could be done.


I'm tired now...i think i'll go watch Knockaround Guys.





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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by insignia
    I know there are alot of Hogan haters out there. But for a man who has had such an amazing run, jobbing to Big Show wearing a blue mask isn't the send off he deserves.


How many "send offs" does the man need? He has had so many fucking "last runs" it's ridiculous. When he is given a proper going away, pretending such a thing existed, he just comes back because he can't leave.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
Feh. I refuse to see the logic in any logic that states a man who can still garner 10 MINUTE LONG ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE just for showing up shouldn't be brought in and used in SOME capacity
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
    Originally posted by Evil Antler God
    Feh. I refuse to see the logic in any logic that states a man who can still garner 10 MINUTE LONG ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE just for showing up shouldn't be brought in and used in SOME capacity


Exactly. Austin, or Rock or all those who broke Hogan's records are never going to get those kinds of reactions. This guy is the measuring stick.

Now, that doesn't mean he should be in the ring. For his own good, I'd say occasional matches are the most he can be used for. I also like the GM idea, but it might not pay well enough for Hogan's tastes. If they can come to realistic terms, then gold.

Redsox, you're on crack by the way. Cena is nowhere near the stature of being able to get cheered against Hogan. The Rock was crapped all over, and before any unearths the old "blame Canada" routine it was happening in Chicago the week before 'Mania. Hogan also got one of those ten minute ovations in NY. Cena is not there yet. I don't think turning him heel is a good idea either because heels "lead the dance", so to speak, and he's not tenured enough to be leading the dance with---y'know, Eddy Guerrero. It's also a case of going against the flow. People don't want to boo Cena right now. For all the talk around here about how he "should" be turned heel why swim upstream? He's the first person in five years to get over simply by showing up and doing his job, unlike the deep-throat, you-better-learn-to-like-it technique of the Lesnar/Orton pushes which are yet to draw a dime. I'd say go with it, if anything, have him show props to Hogan to avoid any backlash, while a couple of friendly insults about his age or the baldness would go over well.

And whoever said Hogan's in his late 50's is also on crack. He's 50. Calm down.





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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Hogan as a GM? There's no way that would work.

1) Hogan wouldn't go for it.
2) People don't pay to see these authority figures, and Hogan would want a lot of money, so financially it wouldn't be good.

They don't need to give him "1 last run". He got another run with the belt, and it bombed. He got a match w/ Rock, he got a high-profile angle in Mr. America, a high-profile match w/ Vince. He (most likely) wouldn't work house shows.

If they want to bring him in, it should be with the understanding that he'll be putting guys over. If he objects to that, then Vince can say "thanks, but no thanks." I can live happily ever after without ever seeing Hogan on WWE TV ever again.


    Feh. I refuse to see the logic in any logic that states a man who can still garner 10 MINUTE LONG ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE just for showing up shouldn't be brought in and used in SOME capacity

Do these 10 minutes of applause result in higher PPV buys? More people attending house shows? Higher ratings? Doubtful. I don't recall any of these being extraordinarily higher during his last 2 runs.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
What exactly has drawn extraordinarily higher ratings in recent memory? Anyone? Anything?
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    If he was going to SD! yes, Raw, no.
    Which basically just shows the bad shape SD! is in.

I agree with you, PV2, that ideally you would want to give the boost to the show that's struggling, and at the moment that means Smackdown. However, IF Hogan was to return to WWE, RAW is IMHO the program where he would better fit. RAW is the program that has "The Legend Killer" Randy Orton, and it would be fitting to have Hogan be the next legend in Orton's path. RAW also has Hogan's old rival Ric Flair, thus giving Hogan two instant story lines that he could just walk right into. You could start the rivalry by having Hogan turn up like The Rock did a few weeks ago as Eugene's surprise "friend"/tag-team partner, preferably in a match against Flair/Orton. Anyway, that's the way I would have it play out IF Hulk Hogan was coming back.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
    Originally posted by Evil Antler God
    What exactly has drawn extraordinarily higher ratings in recent memory? Anyone? Anything?


EXACTLY! I don't you'll find too many posts here where people yell and scream that "The 'Eddy and Benoit Experiment' should be killed NOW! They haven't improved a thing! Buyrates suck, merchandise sucks, ratings suck. Fire them BOTH!" yet you mention Hogan and Taker and other guys that HAVE a history of being top names, and it's all about how they were on a show that sucked for the past couple years... the same show everyone's heroes are STILL on now...


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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
Well even though the "Hogan's reign bombed" theory is widely accepted it has little basis in reality. For example it makes no accounting for the fact that he didn't main event too many shows when he won the title. The first show there was a significant ratings drop for was for the May 13th show from Toronto. Hogan wrestled Flair half-way through the show. The main event was Austin V.S. Booker T. Bradshaw fought the Big Show and X-Pac in a handicap match. It's not like these shows were all Hogan but he gets all the blame. No one is blaming Benoit for last week's 3.5 or the 3.4 a couple weeks before that, even though he's been used in pretty much the same championship capacity that Hogan was. In other words the Champ, but not the guy things revolve around.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
I think it bombed in the sense that it was terribly boring and the feud between him and Taker didn't do a good buyrate at all.

It bombed in the sense that it didn't do any better then what they were already doing so it was stupid to keep it going because Hogan wasn't a long-term investment or working house shows. If a part-timer is not sparking ratings or attendance, why have the belt on him? They figured based on Mania and Montreal, that people would be all amped for a Hogan title run but they weren't, so in that sense it failed.

If you're gonna put the title on a part-timer he better damn well be spiking the ratings big-time and or delivering big buyrates.

Hogan in small doses was fine and the crowd dug it but it's a very fine line when it comes to overexposing him. To me, the Hogan stuff never translated well to TV at all. Those standing ovations ... click. I mean great in person but who wants to watch that on TV?

If they want to do something with Hogan, bring him out on TV, have him get beatdown by a fat heel like A-Train then do a "Hogan Farewell Tour" on the house shows ONLY with him beating A-Train in 5 minutes every night.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Redsox, you're on crack by the way. Cena is nowhere near the stature of being able to get cheered against Hogan. The Rock was crapped all over, and before any unearths the old "blame Canada" routine it was happening in Chicago the week before 'Mania. Hogan also got one of those ten minute ovations in NY. Cena is not there yet. I don't think turning him heel is a good idea either because heels "lead the dance", so to speak, and he's not tenured enough to be leading the dance with---y'know, Eddy Guerrero. It's also a case of going against the flow. People don't want to boo Cena right now. For all the talk around here about how he "should" be turned heel why swim upstream? He's the first person in five years to get over simply by showing up and doing his job, unlike the deep-throat, you-better-learn-to-like-it technique of the Lesnar/Orton pushes which are yet to draw a dime. I'd say go with it, if anything, have him show props to Hogan to avoid any backlash, while a couple of friendly insults about his age or the baldness would go over well.







I thought it was Captain Morgan I was on, not crack.
I think my opinion of the guy Hogan faced at Mania 18 is well known by this point, so him getting boo'ed out of the building is justified under any circumstance. Him being barred from the building would be preferable though.
I think Cena's gimmick works much better as a heel, or at least make him a face who isn't a constant kiss-ass to the crowd.
I think the honeymoon period for Hogan becomes shorter and shorter with each 'victory' tour. Have Cena turn on Hogan in the Carolina's, and Cena will probably be cheered, much as Hogan would be cheered in traditional WWF areas.
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