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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
I was really hoping that the second episode would address some of my concerns coming out of the pilot, and while having a Washington bureaucrat call the LA office for their shenanigans attempted to do that, Mark's arrogant dismissal of her claims and the chief's subsequent mocking slightly ticked me off.

I liked Charlie dealing with her vision and getting into a fight with the kids playing "blackout" (that activity seemed tasteless, as did the name dropping of 9-11 and Katrina to justify it, but I suppose that's something kids would do in a situation like that.) It will be interesting to see how Dylan and D. Gibbons play into Charlie's vision. Does he kidnap them? Does Charlie show Dylan a picture of Olivia in the flash so that he recognizes her when brought in to the hospital?

I liked Olivia's reaction to meeting Lloyd and trying to give him the brush off. Clearly the connection between Olivia and Dylan is going to make that difficult.

Mark's a dick for praising Olivia for telling him about Lloyd but not telling her about the drinking. The way that was cut together to make the point was a bit heavy-handed, though.

I don't think I like Mark. He's a bit too full of himself because HE had the vision of the investigation and how he's so sure that everthing on that wall is important. We saw him put up the picture of the burnt doll, but why would he put up the card that said something about the doll with a question mark next to it. At this point it seems the doll issues have been answered. I liked him burning the friendship bracelet, though.

The set up of the sheriff seeing nothing only indicated she was going to die immediately as a cautionary tale for Noh.

Why would D. Gibbons steal another D. Gibbons credit card?

I don't think I like Janis. She comes up with what should be a hair-brained idea and of course in this cock-a-mamie universe it immediately pans out. (I did like the Washington-ite calling her on the website. With all those posts she is claiming to justify its existence, how are they going to mine that data to learn anything useful? Then again, she did find the video of Subject Zero...) She tells Noh to post that he has no vision and is concerned he's dead, and then someone immediately calls to tell him when he dies. Because someone was looking at the report on his death EXACTLY at the minute of the vision. Right...

I also didn't like the chief's bullshit Pigeon theory playing out so quickly. I wouldn't mind the indication that a little more time was spent chasing dead end theories before they find the right one.

I find myself appreciating the skeptics on the show. As with the pilot, it seems that too many people are buying into the premise and running ahead with gusto, especially in cases where they shouldn't (Mark...).

I don't care that the chief is being used for comic relief. His vision was amusing in the pilot, but him giving CPR to a guy drowning in the urinal is just silly.

I stopped watching Heroes because the characters were too stupid and annoying, not acting rationally all too often to service a weak plot. I get the sense the same thing is happening here. I'll keep watching for now, but my concerns about this show are growing.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.56
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett

    I don't care that the chief is being used for comic relief. His vision was amusing in the pilot, but him giving CPR to a guy drowning in the urinal is just silly.

"BOWWW-el movement" ... That's gonna be my new catchphrase

And this show still feels a little too "generic" for me to really get involved in the story ... It's like the writers got their hands on a copy of "Serialized TV Drama for Dummies" and have constructed the framework for a mysterious Lost-esque show without really concerning themselves with putting any meat on them bones.

Oh well, I'll continue to wait and see how things play out ... Seeing MADTV alum Stephnie Weir as the crazy cupcake lady was a nice surprise, though.

Santino continued his tradition of coming down to the ring, being ten times funnier and more interesting than the other guy, and then getting his ass beat. He said to Rey Rey "anyone who a wears a mask eesa either incredibly ugly, incredibly stupid or...eesa the batman!" Man, if this guy could only wrestle he'd be King Korn Karn by now. Homeslice doesn't even have a finisher. -- Matt Fowler

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Since: 2.11.02
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.63
Quote EddieBurkett: "I find myself appreciating the skeptics on the show. As with the pilot, it seems that too many people are buying into the premise and running ahead with gusto, especially in cases where they shouldn't (Mark...)."

I thought the rationale for Mark's actions was OK. Assuming carrying on as normal wasn't an option as that would inevitably lead to the future he saw, he could either:

A. Run away, or
B. Try to use the vision to get ahead of the curve and stop the future he saw.

Me, I'd have been all over option A, but as the heroic-good-guy-cop type I guess he might be rather less of a fraidy-cat than me. And he's desperately trying not to do the 'falling off the wagon' bit of the future, so really it's only the 'figuring out what the hell is going on' bit that he's careering toward and I can understand why he'd do that.

Apart from that, I'd go along with most everything yourself and Alessandro said. I'm intrigued enough, but the first two hours have felt like they were in such a hurry to get the base plot points over they forgot about making a coherent show.

I'm hoping it settles down but right now there's altogether too much in the way of conveniently placed calendars, super-intuitive characters and general wackiness being relied upon to get everything over for my taste.

Cherries > Peaches

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.39
I'm pretty much in agreement with everybody here as well. Heavy-handed, rushing to get plot established, not enough substance to characters, Lost-esque. And, I'm also hoping that the writing settles down & they start to get some nuance & depth. I'm still hanging in, but increasing in skepticism.

The one character I really do like is the boss. I can't think of the last time there was a boss who wasn't the lead, & got to be comedic by being smart. Supporting boss characters are always buffoons or assholes. I like this guy. (And I'm totally going to barf when we find out that he & the Homeland Security woman have had a prior romantic relationship. A strictly business past would be peachy & reasonable, but making them snuggle-bunnies will make me gak.)

"... to use bureau funds to [incredulous] make a website?" Oh, yeah. Like setting up a website is a big expenditure. Particularly as compared to flying a dozen-SWAT-level agents out to Pigeon, Utah on a wild goose (Goose, pigeon, ooooh.) chase. In the aftermath of a global event which leaves hunks of Los Angeles smouldering.

We're stacking up patients in the hallways, but we have a wide-open exam room available for suturing a stuffed animal. (Wouldn't she have an office where she could do that?)

Mandatory creepy dolls scene. Check that one off the "Serialized TV Drama for Dummies" checklist.

Clumsy FBI agents don't notice the trigger strip across the step til after they've stepped on it? Training for tripping a booby trap would include scurrying forward as briskly as possible? Standing around in the middle of the flaming, beeping room as the suspect bails out a side door, just waiting for the place to blow up. Not sure that'd be FBI protocol.

They are absolutely going to have to tighten up these technical details, if they hope to catch & hold the Lost audience. We'll see ...

FYI, from the people who brought you, there's a discussion board for Flash Forward at ...

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