Manny being LA Manny in 50 games: 17 HR, 53 RBI, .398 AVG
The above is why the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while the D-Backs are not.
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"This is what happens when you trade for a guy who doesn't even like baseball." -- JP Ricciardi
“How is it that I am a good actor? What I do is I... pretend to be the person I’m portraying. You’re confused. Case in point: in Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson comes to me and says ‘I would like you to be Gandalf the Wizard,’ and I said ‘You are aware that I am not really a wizard?’ and Peter Jackson said ‘I would like you to use your acting skills to portray a wizard for the duration of the show.’ So I said ‘Okay’ and then I said to myself ‘Mmm.. How do I do that?’ And this is what I did: I imagined that I was a wizard, and then I pretended, and acted, in that way on the stage. How did I know what to say? The words were written down for me in a script. How did I know where to stand? People told me where to stand." -- Sir Ian McKellen, Extras
Manny; only the second player in MLB history with 50 RBIs in both leagues in one year. Also, not the only reason LA is in the playoffs; we have the rest of the NL west to thank for that.
"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Frown and the world laughs at you." -Me.
Let's also give credit where credit's due to Joe Torre and the new coaching staff. When Manny first got to L.A., Jeff Kent started hitting better and when confronted by reporters with the facts (he hit better once Manny arrived), Kent threw a hissy fit. When something like that happened last year, tempers kept flaring until the entire clubhouse imploded and, before anyone knew it, none of the players were talking to each other and the team plummeted from first to fourth place practically overnight. Thanks to the new regime, team harmony prevailed this time around.
Does Torre + Manny = World Series? Maybe, maybe not; but at the very least, that combination means playoffs!
Originally posted by Eddie FamousThe above is why the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while the D-Backs are not.
Only three D-Backs had OBPs above .333 in September - Dunn among them at .381 - that's really a bigger reason that the D-Backs are not going to the playoffs.
Adam Dunn was standing on the basepaths for the D-Backs 67 times. His teammates - ALL of them - drove him in exactly TWELVE times. I don't really think you can say ONE guy was the difference.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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Revenge of the Sith = one thumb up from me. Fuck shit. I want to tittie fuck your ass. -- The Guinness. to Cerebus
It also doesn't help when your supposed franchise player third baseman strikes out eleventy billion times and makes Alex Rodriguez look like Brooks Robinson.
Originally posted by Eddie FamousDunn in 40 games: 6 HR, 24 RBI, .237 AVG
Manny being LA Manny in 50 games: 17 HR, 53 RBI, .398 AVG
The above is why the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while the D-Backs are not.
Ahh, I remember when I was in 3rd grade and could enjoy baseball on this level.
If you still think getting Dunn was a fine move when they could've made an offer and gotten Manny, you belong in the third grade.
Dunn has been all but worthless since the DBacks got him.
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If you still think getting Dunn was a fine move when they could've made an offer and gotten Manny, you belong in the third grade.
Dunn has been all but worthless since the DBacks got him.
There's no proof out there that the DBacks could have gotten Manny. Did they have the ability to match the prospects that Los Angeles offered Pittsburgh?
Also, all Dunn did with the Diamondbacks was put up an .874 OPS, which is hardly "worthless."
One man's play doesn't paint the entire picture of EITHER team. Was Manny Ramirez responsible for the fact that Andre Ethier put up a .961 OPS in August, and then a simply insane 1.231 OPS in September? Was it Adam Dunn's fault that the DBacks' pitchers had their worst and third-worst ERAs in August and September?
Originally posted by Gugs There's no proof out there that the DBacks could have gotten Manny. Did they have the ability to match the prospects that Los Angeles offered Pittsburgh?
The folks I've interviewed from ESPN and Sporting News think so.
Trading for a 6-7 galoot and saying he's a value because he WALKS A LOT....makes no sense.
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Originally posted by Eddie Famous Trading for a 6-7 galoot and saying he's a value because he WALKS A LOT....makes no sense.
So...would you rather he DIDN'T walk? When it comes right down to it, the worst thing any batter can do at any given time is make an out. Adam Dunn avoided making an out 42% of the time, more than any other Diamondback. And he wasn't JUST walking, either; his slugging percentage ranks 4th on the team, just .002 behind third place.
If Dallas Buck, Wilton Castillo and Micah Owings could have gotten the Diamondbacks two months of Manny Ramirez instead of a month and a half of Adam Dunn, then you might have a point. But they got him for essentially nothing, he became their best offensive player...and they just came up short. It happens. Don't blame Dunn.
Originally posted by GugsWas it Adam Dunn's fault that the DBacks' pitchers had their worst and third-worst ERAs in August and September?
As someone who suffered through Brandon Webb costing me a fantasy league title, I salute this point.
“How is it that I am a good actor? What I do is I... pretend to be the person I’m portraying. You’re confused. Case in point: in Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson comes to me and says ‘I would like you to be Gandalf the Wizard,’ and I said ‘You are aware that I am not really a wizard?’ and Peter Jackson said ‘I would like you to use your acting skills to portray a wizard for the duration of the show.’ So I said ‘Okay’ and then I said to myself ‘Mmm.. How do I do that?’ And this is what I did: I imagined that I was a wizard, and then I pretended, and acted, in that way on the stage. How did I know what to say? The words were written down for me in a script. How did I know where to stand? People told me where to stand." -- Sir Ian McKellen, Extras
Originally posted by Eddie Famous Trading for a 6-7 galoot and saying he's a value because he WALKS A LOT....makes no sense.
So...would you rather he DIDN'T walk?
He should hit the ball more often. And better than .230 lifetime with men in scoring position. When you get a man supposed to be an RBI factor, you don't especially want him to walk, you want him to drive in the run.
Looking at his lifetime performance, Dunn has been among the worst clutch players in baseball. Trading for him has been idiotic.
"One man's play doesn't paint the entire picture of EITHER team."
The acquisitions they make coming down the stretch DO paint the entire picture. The DBacks could have had filet mignon, they bought the dollar steak. They get no playoffs.
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