Originally posted by jerichofan717Just got back from an early screening of the film. From what the reviews said I was expecting a pile of hot garbage,but I didn't think it was that bad.
It does have some plot and dialogue issues,but I thought the action scenes were fantastic. I think they could've chopped 30 minutes off the film to fix the pacing issues.
Affleck was a serviceable Batman, but Jesse Eisenberg was too over the top as Lexington Luthor for my taste. Amy Adams in a bathtub was worth my $13 for sure.
Planning to go see it tomorrow. Many audience reviews I've seen online echo what you said; while BvS has its flaws, it's nowhere near as bad as the critics have made it out to be. And pretty much everyone thinks Eisenberg as Lex is the worst part of the movie. He is a pretty good actor, so does Snyder get the blame for this?
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Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34 And pretty much everyone thinks Eisenberg as Lex is the worst part of the movie. He is a pretty good actor, so does Snyder get the blame for this?
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Snyder certainly gets the blame for Superman being so dour and melodramatic; any scene with him having a conversation about whether he should be Superman is less Nolan and more One Tree Hill.
My biggest problem with Eisenberg is there is a point in the movie where he should have dropped the act and stopped playing crystal meth Riddler, and that would have made Lex seem like a diabolical genius/manipulator without equal. Instead he's just kooky from start to finish.
I'm going with my dad to see it Thursday for a random matinee in the "GTX Extreme" version, which is our theatre chain's somewhat close version of IMAX. Not entirely looking forward to it, though part of that is that the 2 1/2 runtime seems daunting.
Wonder Woman was the highlight of the movie. I realize she didn't get too much screentime, but how can the writers seemingly completely nail her character and get so much wrong about the Superman and Batman characters?
Originally posted by J. KyleMy biggest problem with Eisenberg is there is a point in the movie where he should have dropped the act and stopped playing crystal meth Riddler, and that would have made Lex seem like a diabolical genius/manipulator without equal. Instead he's just kooky from start to finish.
Agreed. The actual setup of Luthor's plot was kind of interesting, especially the final leverage he has to actually make Superman face Batman. But Eisenberg was just awful in the role from start to finish.
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Didn't hate it, didn't love it. It was way too slow in the beginning and way too fast in the end and the middle just didn't tie it all together greatly. That's the pacing thing mentioned before.
I did step out for a moment to use the restroom. Did I miss when Lex found out about Superman being Clark and Martha being his mom or did I miss that altogether when Bruce was scanning Lex's encrypted files and the other Superheroes were in there.
Originally posted by The Guinness.I did step out for a moment to use the restroom. Did I miss when Lex found out about Superman being Clark and Martha being his mom or did I miss that altogether when Bruce was scanning Lex's encrypted files and the other Superheroes were in there.
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No, one of the changes Snyder and co made for the best was the fact that the world's smartest man can figure out Clark is Superman wearing glasses and there's only one guy in Gotham rich enough to be Batman who matches his physical attributes.
But that point, when he unveils his plan, is when he should have dropped the Max Landis impersonation and revealed it was as much a ruse as bumbling Clark Kent, or whatever this universal equivalent since no aspect of Superman can be any fun, whatsoever, or Goyer/Snyder will be unable to achieve the erections they use to sexy time many women while being too busy to read a single Superman comic.
When he lays out the ultimatum he should've become less hipster and adopted some of that Clancy Brown swagger,
Originally posted by StaggerLeeIf you haven't seen it yet, but you KNOW Bruce Wayne's parents are murdered in the Batman lore, skip the first 20 minutes. Not sure why they rehash that shit AGAIN.
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Primarily to reinforce that Bruce's mothers name was Martha I'd imagine
But then why the mausoleum scene with the huge dream bat?
I thought the fight between Batman and Superman would end like another Zack Synder film 300. After 300 my friend and I had a discussion did Leonidas win by cutting Xerxes cheek with the spear? He said yes, he proved Xerxes wasn't a god but a man and could bleed. Now in this, Batman asks Superman "Do you Bleed?". Then he follows with "You will.". Later in the film Batman makes a Kryptonite spear. That's when the idea started to form. He cuts Superman on the cheek just like Leonidas did with Xerxes, but it doesn't end there. I wonder if this was planed or was it just coincidence.