It's everything I could have ever wanted from an Avengers series. And they've got more than enough plotlines to keep going for a very long time. In fact, that premiere episode set up so many foils for the team (Kang, The Leader, Doom, Klaw, The Mad Thinker, Loki, etc. etc. etc.) that I don't know how they're going to cover it all in one season.
I have one problem and it's not even with the series itself, but with the general nature of these shows. Networks seem to have such short attention spans with shows like this that it's hard to see myself getting overly invested in it. Spectacular Spider-Man was PERFECT and it's already been canceled in favor of yet another reboot. Batman: Brave and the Bold is FANTASTIC and it's already being canceled. Wolverine & The X-Men was GREAT and it got cut off at the knees after one season (right after the last episode teased Apocalypse, no less). Why bother to get invested in any of these shows if they're going on the chopping block just as they start to get interesting?
I'm trying to curb my cynicism (because the show really IS good!), but...well...fool me once, you know?
I liked what I saw with the Captain America episode as well as the second part of the premiere. My fear isn't that it will get canned early, I full expect that, its too just a bit too cartoony at times. The Doughboy monster was just silly as well as the fights seems to go on forever. Its not going to be a talky talky show like JLU or Batman or Superman, but it would be nice if it was. If they help elevate villains like Zemo, Strucker, Hydra and others I am all for it.
I'm really enjoying Avengers. The animation itself is nothing special, but the characterization is spot on. I love all the little beats the characters get. Thor hating the talking house cracks me up every time, and it's all I can do to keep from shouting "Nooooo!" at the TV every time Ant Man mentions working on Ultron. I'm already more invested in this than I was in Wolverine and the X-man, so I really hope it doesn't meet the same fate.
Watched the Captain America episode this morning an met with my first beef.
Why in the HELL is Red Skull part of Hydra and not a Nazi??? In fact, they basically make it out that we fought Hydra in WWII. There was some mention of this in the Cap Movie thread too. Because it is total bullcrap if we are so PC that even NAZIS can't be villains.
Besides that, this is up there with Spectactular Spider-Man (best Spider-Man in ANY media), and BTAS. Tons of cameos and even makes you interested in D-List villains. I had to look up Graviton and I've read comics for 20 years. But they made him seem like a world beater.
It does piss me off how they just cancel these great shows while crap like Spongebob (sorry, never got into it) can stay on for over a decade.
Originally posted by ScottyflamingoWatched the Captain America episode this morning an met with my first beef.
Why in the HELL is Red Skull part of Hydra and not a Nazi??? In fact, they basically make it out that we fought Hydra in WWII. There was some mention of this in the Cap Movie thread too. Because it is total bullcrap if we are so PC that even NAZIS can't be villains.
Hydra's original head honcho was the Nazi Baron Von Strucker. So I'd say they're just using a little bit of creative license and inserting the Red Skull in Von Strucker's place. Adding another mastermind (Von Strucker) would be unnecessary for the cartoon's story-telling purposes.
I like how they went with the original Avengers line-up of Thor, Ant/Giant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man and the Hulk (with Cap on his way). I'm thankful that it's the "bully Hulk" of the early 60's and not the buffoonish "Hulk Smash" of the 70's and Defenders. Dug the little bit where Hulk was talking to "Banner" in a diner.
There seems to be a lot of SLAM-BANG-BOOM fisticuffs throughout the episodes I've seen. The fight with Graviton seemed to be overly excessive and went a bit long. Also-- I thought it was silly how the Avengers prevented Graviton from destroying Manhattan...but seemed to be okay that their fight caused a huge blast crater in Queens.
Originally posted by ScottyflamingoWatched the Captain America episode this morning an met with my first beef.
Why in the HELL is Red Skull part of Hydra and not a Nazi??? In fact, they basically make it out that we fought Hydra in WWII. There was some mention of this in the Cap Movie thread too. Because it is total bullcrap if we are so PC that even NAZIS can't be villains.
Hydra's original head honcho was the Nazi Baron Von Strucker. So I'd say they're just using a little bit of creative license and inserting the Red Skull in Von Strucker's place. Adding another mastermind (Von Strucker) would be unnecessary for the cartoon's story-telling purposes.
I like how they went with the original Avengers line-up of Thor, Ant/Giant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man and the Hulk (with Cap on his way). I'm thankful that it's the "bully Hulk" of the early 60's and not the buffoonish "Hulk Smash" of the 70's and Defenders. Dug the little bit where Hulk was talking to "Banner" in a diner.
There seems to be a lot of SLAM-BANG-BOOM fisticuffs throughout the episodes I've seen. The fight with Graviton seemed to be overly excessive and went a bit long. Also-- I thought it was silly how the Avengers prevented Graviton from destroying Manhattan...but seemed to be okay that their fight caused a huge blast crater in Queens.
Originally posted by ScottyflamingoWatched the Captain America episode this morning an met with my first beef.
Why in the HELL is Red Skull part of Hydra and not a Nazi??? In fact, they basically make it out that we fought Hydra in WWII. There was some mention of this in the Cap Movie thread too. Because it is total bullcrap if we are so PC that even NAZIS can't be villains.
Hydra's original head honcho was the Nazi Baron Von Strucker. So I'd say they're just using a little bit of creative license and inserting the Red Skull in Von Strucker's place. Adding another mastermind (Von Strucker) would be unnecessary for the cartoon's story-telling purposes.
I like how they went with the original Avengers line-up of Thor, Ant/Giant-Man, Wasp, Iron Man and the Hulk (with Cap on his way). I'm thankful that it's the "bully Hulk" of the early 60's and not the buffoonish "Hulk Smash" of the 70's and Defenders. Dug the little bit where Hulk was talking to "Banner" in a diner.
There seems to be a lot of SLAM-BANG-BOOM fisticuffs throughout the episodes I've seen. The fight with Graviton seemed to be overly excessive and went a bit long. Also-- I thought it was silly how the Avengers prevented Graviton from destroying Manhattan...but seemed to be okay that their fight caused a huge blast crater in Queens.
Damage Control has them covered.
I'm ok with not having Nazis as villains. I don't need any real life tragedy in my kids superhero show, the History Channel is like 112% Hitler so maybe that's a better place to learn about that instead of Disney XD.
The show's Stark is a perfect recreation of the movies 90% of the time and that's all I can ask for.
The fresh Hulk/Banner dynamic combined with a newer, more intelligent (but not genius) Hulk makes for a lot of fun. And every time the Hulk disses Thor it's a laugh riot.
I think it's actually supposed to be a throwback to how the Hulk was originally characterized. Stan is, and always will be, verbose.
If Damage Control actually shows up on this show (isn't Dwayne McDuffie associated with the show somehow?) I will buy 20 copies of the DVDs whenever they come out.
"Tattoos are the mullets of the aughts." - Mike Naimark
Sing this special song. It's just for you. Also worth noting: --The Punisher and Man Thing each being a headline on the front of a newspaper --Wolverine's brief (and sneaky) cameo as one of Rock's soldiers in WW2. Take THAT Fox legal team.
Originally posted by J. Kyle--Wolverine's brief (and sneaky) cameo as one of Rock's soldiers in WW2. Take THAT Fox legal team.
The style of animation and the re-use of Steve Blum as Logan's voice actor makes me think this series is set sometime before or after the events of "Wolverine & The X-Men". I believe Fox has the film rights to Wolverine, but not so much for TV. It's one of the reasons Wikipedia has rumors of The Spectacular Spider-Man making a cameo at some point, despite Sony owning the film rights.
Originally posted by J. Kyle--Wolverine's brief (and sneaky) cameo as one of Rock's soldiers in WW2. Take THAT Fox legal team.
The style of animation and the re-use of Steve Blum as Logan's voice actor makes me think this series is set sometime before or after the events of "Wolverine & The X-Men". I believe Fox has the film rights to Wolverine, but not so much for TV. It's one of the reasons Wikipedia has rumors of The Spectacular Spider-Man making a cameo at some point, despite Sony owning the film rights.
In one of the mini-sodes, Fury specifically says that Whirlwind is a mutant, and as such he's a problem for the MRDs, the Mutant Response Division from Wolverine and the X-Men. So yeah, definitely set in the same continuity.
My kids have fallen for this show hard. There are episodes downloaded on dvr's all over the house. I sit down and watch it too whenever I see it on. I feel like a kid again at the barber shop reading comics in the corner.
Yeah, I noticed that. Of course it's not coincidence. But if you have to draw U.S. banknotes with just a few strokes, doing a green circle with stripes representing text above and under does make sense....somewhat.
The show is lots of fun. The characters are well defined, though Wasp seems a bit ditzy and was described as a socialite.
I like the cross between different universes. Like Fury being black but having 616-Fury hair colors.
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