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|  #1 Posted on 23.8.16 2259.09
Reposted on: 23.8.23 2259.33 | I can't believe people actually watch the Talking Smack, another half of WWE content after so many other hours of content. I do understand it a little bit, because Daniel Bryan appears to be unfiltered and free to give his thoughts, in a way unlike anything else in WWE. That ended up not well for Daniel Bryan tonight.
The Miz crashed the show today, Daniel called him a coward and said he had a "soft WWE style". Miz did not react well. Watch this now.
The show came to a sudden end after this, not going it's scheduled 30 minutes, and you could hear someone discussing the coward line way off camera. I'm assuming this is a really well done wrestling segment, though I have no idea where it goes next. | Promote this thread! |             | JustinShapiro
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| #2 Posted on 23.8.16 2309.36
Reposted on: 23.8.23 2312.23 | I've always heard good things about Talking Smack, and I picked a good week to watch it for the first time. It was literally the best show on the Network, the best pro wrestling product done by the company, a better brand than any of the ones with matches, and that was even before the Miz got there. Jesus Christ. I was all shook up. What kind of messed up world is this where Shane McMahon can stoically take Brock Lesnar's measure but Daniel Bryan will never be able to get any kind of reciprocity against Miz. It was like the unchained chaos of the final segment of NXT season 2 except in all the best ways instead of the worst. That was MADNESS and Jericho needed to come shut it down.
(edited by JustinShapiro on 24.8.16 0014) | It's False
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| #3 Posted on 24.8.16 0118.46
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0119.53 | This company asked Daniel Bryan to come back. Daniel Bryan isn't begging for a job and he was perfectly content to just walk away forever, no matter how much it still obviously pains him to be around and not be able to compete.
So fuck this wretched company for continuing to rub his retirement in his face. Between the Miz promo this week and the Slater concussion "rib" last week, I want to see Daniel Bryan walk away and never come back. He doesn't need or deserve this kind of shit after he basically scrambled his brain into oatmeal for them. | BigDaddyLoco
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| #4 Posted on 24.8.16 0528.40
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0529.01 | It was a spectacular promo that I'm sure Bryan had a hard time taking, but I'm sure Orton had a hard time taking elbows to the dome too. Justin already beat me to the Jericho got worked again joke, but the two situations felt similar. I just don't know how Bryan feels about agreeing to it after listening to it, but I don't know how Bryan feels about anything they are having him do right now.
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| #5 Posted on 24.8.16 0708.35
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0709.47 | I'm jaded, but I lean to well done work.
I just have a hard time believing that WWE is suddenly letting everyone break kayfabe and say what they really feel.
My best hunch is that this builds some sort of angle where Bryan the GM brings in folks to take the IC title off of Miz and possibly then trades Miz to RAW - or even to NXT to teach him a lesson in humility. | PowerPB13
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| #6 Posted on 24.8.16 0836.25
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0836.54 | | The sad thing is that Miz is right in a lot of ways. What did Bryan's "style" get him, other than an early retirement? What did it get people like Nigel McGuinness who shot their bodies to hell before they could even make it to the big time? What did it get Finn Balor who got hurt too quickly to appreciate his first big title win on the main roster? | Dr Unlikely
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| #7 Posted on 24.8.16 0836.35
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0840.19 | Bryan is shaken by Miz' words, but stays largely silent. Meanwhile, Shane is furious by Stephanie only fining Brock $500 for attacking Shane and views it as open warfare, assuming that Stephanie actually encouraged Brock to take a hit out on him. Being Shane, he can't back down and goes after Brock at Hell In A Cell, laying in a series of brutal punches that absolutely decimate the air two feet in front of Brock's face and torso, but somehow, when the smoke clears, Brock is unscathed and he destroys Shane in the Cell for an agonizingly long time as they try to first raise the Cell (Foley, having fallen in line behind his master, uses his knowledge of the Cell to jam the lifting mechanism) and then cutting the door open. All the while, Daniel Bryan stands by, mostly in a fog, the words of Miz still cutting deep into his psyche until he finally has enough and comes out of retirement - in a unsanctioned match - and personally ends Brock's reign of terror forever at WrestleMania.
You want it to be one way...but it's the other way.
OK, OK. Assuming Miz didn't SHOOT and drive Bryan into an actual psychological breakdown, the "Bryan gets a bunch of people (there may not be an actual bunch of people on the roster) to chase Miz for the title" is probably what they do, since they don't even know how to book Daniel Bryan as a Face GM. But what I'd rather see, if just in tribute to how completely off-the-charts great Miz was and how he's really made himself a valuable hand and how Miz/Maryse is a damn good mid-card boss heel act, is the better angle where Miz actually proves himself to Daniel Bryan, paying off the NXT angle, with Bryan and Miz shaking hands and Miz getting that face turn he almost got years ago when he came back out to finish Money in the Bank.
How do you do it? I don't know. Maybe just a series of really good matches against good workers (again, there may not be enough of a roster on Smackdown for a series of good matches with good workers), or maybe a fired-up, misguided Miz decides he should avenge Shane and challenge Brock, with Bryan begging Miz not to do it and apologizing for calling him soft because he doesn't want Miz to get killed, but Miz going through with it anyway and getting slaughtered in that "destroyed but resilient" match they didn't do for Brock/Ambrose? | Matt Tracker
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| #8 Posted on 24.8.16 0851.17
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0851.19 | "I LOVE THE FANS. [two minutes later] YOU'RE THE COWARDS!"
They're finally trying to get Miz over, but all of this is sound and fury unless he does something new in the ring, and he shouldn't. He really shouldn't. He has a heel style. He's a natural heel, and he rightly wrestles like a weasel.
I saw the first episode of the "Evolution of Punk" UFC documentary, and Pettis tells Punk there are ten ways to get off your back and to find the one that works for him. That's what Miz did. His style works for him because he's not a high-flyer or a brute or someone who can channel the universe to bust out big moves. His finisher* requires him to attack his opponent from behind. He sneaks up, hits it, and pins. That's utter weasel-osity. And he's GREAT at it.
*I first saw that finisher from Jeff Jarrett and always hated for two reasons: I never liked Double J; and it just doesn't look like a finisher. It's not a bulldog, and it's not a DDT, and either of those moves would be more credible. Want us to utterly loathe The Miz? Give him The Stunner as a finisher. Call it the Awesomer, because it's his catchphrase, and it's "better" than Austin's. The reaction would be molten.
| PowerPB13
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| #9 Posted on 24.8.16 0855.38
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0855.55 | | The whole deal in the past few days hasn't been good for me. After Balor's injury, I just felt sick to my stomach when I thought Zayn's injury was legit and spent most of Neville's match cringing when he did his high-risk maneuvers. Maybe I just need a break from this stuff. | lotjx
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| #10 Posted on 24.8.16 0859.13
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0859.14 | | Bryan is right. Miz is an instant fast forward. Miz throwing a fit will not change that. | PowerPB13
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| #11 Posted on 24.8.16 0915.07
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0915.18 | | And Miz can still wrestle tomorrow, unlike Bryan. | Dr Unlikely
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| #12 Posted on 24.8.16 0917.41
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0917.43 | Originally posted by Matt Tracker
Want us to utterly loathe The Miz? Give him The Stunner as a finisher. Call it the Awesomer, because it's his catchphrase, and it's "better" than Austin's.
Oh shit, bleach Miz to match Maryse and make them "The Hollywood Blonds". | JustinShapiro
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| #13 Posted on 24.8.16 0942.05
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0943.04 | Originally posted by PowerPB13
The sad thing is that Miz is right in a lot of ways. What did Bryan's "style" get him, other than an early retirement?
A WWE contract, the Wrestlemania main event, financial comfortability, his house. | The Goon
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|  #14 Posted on 24.8.16 0947.52
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0948.07 | I've always liked the Miz, maybe because he took a stupid pipe dream from his days on the Real World and worked to make it to the big leagues, and despite toiling in the midcard for many years, has made a strong career for himself. Always hoped that he had another level, and maybe this is the beginning of that for him. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.
(Side note: I will always be in love with Lori from Real World: Back to New York) | jivesoulbro
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| #15 Posted on 24.8.16 0957.40
Reposted on: 24.8.23 0958.41 | I assumed this was real and not scripted. Maybe I'm naive. And assuming it was not scripted, it was very uncool of Bryan to come after Miz like that, publicly and with his wife right there. If Miz's style is good enough for WWE to employ him and he goes into the ring several times a week, where there is danger in any match, then I'm sorry but he's not a coward.
If it's a work, then I don't see the point of it. Miz just won his title match clean. He's held that belt and defended it for months. Are they really going to say now that wrestling style is more important than wins and losses? If so, they are veering way too far toward trying to please the "you deserve it" crowd. You can't make it about your wrestling style and then expect the crowd to care at all about wins and losses. I just don't think it works. | Mr Shh
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| #16 Posted on 24.8.16 0959.17
Reposted on: 24.8.23 1000.13 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Originally posted by PowerPB13
The sad thing is that Miz is right in a lot of ways. What did Bryan's "style" get him, other than an early retirement?
A WWE contract, the Wrestlemania main event, financial comfortability, his house.
You talking about Miz or Bryan?
Scripted or not, equating working safe to being a coward is bad and indefensible.
EDIT: yeah, sorry Justin, I realized that after I posted. Went right over my head.
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| #17 Posted on 24.8.16 1002.25
Reposted on: 24.8.23 1003.23 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Originally posted by PowerPB13
The sad thing is that Miz is right in a lot of ways. What did Bryan's "style" get him, other than an early retirement?
A WWE contract, the Wrestlemania main event, financial comfortability, his house.
And a smoking hot wife. | JustinShapiro
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| #18 Posted on 24.8.16 1008.08
Reposted on: 24.8.23 1010.54 | Originally posted by Mr Shh
Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Originally posted by PowerPB13
The sad thing is that Miz is right in a lot of ways. What did Bryan's "style" get him, other than an early retirement?
A WWE contract, the Wrestlemania main event, financial comfortability, his house.
You talking about Miz or Bryan?
That's my entire point, this is not a Goofus and Gallant strip. | PowerPB13
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| #19 Posted on 24.8.16 1120.53
Reposted on: 24.8.23 1121.01 | | On the bright side: With his concussion history, Bryan won't even remember this exchange today. | Doc_whiskey
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| #20 Posted on 24.8.16 1209.44
Reposted on: 24.8.23 1215.53 | Originally posted by PowerPB13
On the bright side: With his concussion history, Bryan won't even remember this exchange today.
Good one bro |
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