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#1 Posted on 21.5.16 1247.31
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#2 Posted on 21.5.16 1302.16
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He seems to kind of hate wrestling or at least wrestling Twitter anyway. Stardust turned out to be one of the worst characters in a long time. I'm not sure if Cody just lost his smile and that is what turned Stardust into an obnoxious douche of a heat vacuum, or if it is just a poor character choice for him.

That all being said I like Cody Rhodes and all the other character forms he has taken. Hopefully whatever kind of break this actually is works out for him. I would be surprised if he left wrestling, but he is also the type of guy I could see doing just that so who knows.

He would have been a great 80s tag worker and he should have wrestled his brother at WrestleMania. I'd love if he toured the indies as the most basic Cody Rhodes ever. Trunks, wrist tape, cowboy boots and a vest.




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#3 Posted on 21.5.16 1721.56
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I seem to recall Cody talking early retirement in a year or two on Twitter a few months ago, so maybe he's going ahead and cashing in on it. He's been complaining on there about more aches and pains lately, so maybe it's time.

Seems like he has invested/saved well. He'd actually be a pretty decent actor if Steven Amell needs an archnemesis, he's good at playing off the wall characters. Otherwise, he can sit at home and play Zelda and be with Eden and I'm pretty sure he's content.

He made gold out of every weird thing they gave him and deserved better.
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#4 Posted on 21.5.16 2000.16
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Can you IMAGINE him working with Dalton Castle?
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#5 Posted on 21.5.16 2227.38
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Another legit talent that WWE seemed to really miss the boat on. I don't understand what the problem was --- he could talk, he could wrestle, he had a good look (hell, he had an entire heel character based around how legit attractive women found him), he was second-generation and he was actually good at getting dumb WWE-brand comedy over.
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#6 Posted on 22.5.16 1734.09
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#7 Posted on 22.5.16 1834.10
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http://www.wwe.com/article/cody-rhodes-released

    WWE has come to terms on the release of Cody Rhodes as of today, May 22, 2016. WWE wishes Rhodes the best in all his future endeavors.


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#8 Posted on 22.5.16 2116.06
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Amazing. Good for him.
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#9 Posted on 22.5.16 2220.01
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A bag of brass rings and can't cash them in is probably the line that best summarizes this locker room from 2009 to present. Cody should have been allowed to go back to being Cody especially after Dusty passed. Its sad, he has to go elsewhere when there is almost no where else to go. I wish him and now his probably soon to be fired wife, the best.
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#10 Posted on 23.5.16 1532.08
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Belated thread title:
WHOA-OH THERE GOES CODY RHODES

Biggest surprise of his statement is him noting that he pitched multiple times to get out of being Stardust, when it seemed like the sentiment had been that he wanted to do the character. That he committed to it as much as he did - remember how thoroughly he changed his in-ring movement style when he debuted the gimmick - says a lot about him and his willingness to really throw into things.

I think some of his ideas were maybe a little too high concept, but that's what writers are supposed to be for: to help people smooth out and expand on or refine these ideas they bring to the table. Cody was definitely a clever guy who maybe needed to be listened to more, the kind of guy I'd have been happy to lean on for basically free Network content given his role in the JBL/Cole Show era.

The biggest missed opportunity for him ended up being his post-wedding return in late 2013, when he came back as a fully formed, righteously angry face version of himself and was really over, winning the titles with Goldust as an Anti-Authority tag team who got the belts off The Shield only to lose them to...the New Age Outlaws. In the year two thousand and fourteen. And then got jobbed out without any payback and dumped into the Andre Battle Royal at WrestleMania.
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#11 Posted on 23.5.16 1748.48
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Cody was definitely someone who could have been a big deal. Not the main guy, obviously, or even a WrestleMania headliner, but just like Sandow, he could have at least been one of those guys who had a decent World Title run when that belt was still around. Of course, when it was his time to hold it, they were getting rid of it, so that's more of a timing thing. (and yes, the stupidity of having a second world title to give to people who can't win the "real" world title doesn't escape me)

He was always the standout in the Legacy to me and I think they tried too hard to lump him in with DiBiase (who they probably really wanted), which sorta killed him, but his career was the one that had more legs and he was the better performer of the two.

If there was an Observer Award for "Best Character Actor," Cody would have won it at least two of the last few years. Stardust was pretty stupid, but there's no denying he played it better than anyone could've. Ditto for the Dashing Cody Rhodes stuff.

I don't think he ever hit his ceiling, though, so if he's still big on being a wrestler, I'd love to see what he could do in ROH or something. Don't think he'd be a good fit for New Japan, but hey, surprise me.

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#12 Posted on 23.5.16 2017.46
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When is the last time we had this many "Eh, this kinda sucks. Imma go do something else" release-requesters all around the same time?
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#13 Posted on 24.5.16 1642.56
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I think the defections are ironically tied to "the new era". The guys who got stuck in the dead zone of the previous 5+ years had no upward mobility whatsoever. Now that the guard has changed, they skipped right over the brass ring club and brought in NXT guys to fill those spots. It's actually sort of predictable that the more motivated guys would feel like they lost their place in line.
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#14 Posted on 24.5.16 1728.59
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    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely

    Biggest surprise of his statement is him noting that he pitched multiple times to get out of being Stardust, when it seemed like the sentiment had been that he wanted to do the character. That he committed to it as much as he did - remember how thoroughly he changed his in-ring movement style when he debuted the gimmick - says a lot about him and his willingness to really throw into things.



I was under the same assumption that he wanted to do the character. He even stayed in character for media interviews. I'm not sure how that rumor got started. I was also a little surprised that he had such negative comments about the head writers. I figured he was just going to do the stand up, classy thing and say I'm not happy I'm leaving. Not that I disapprove of what he said. I think he still came off as taking the high road.

    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    When is the last time we had this many "Eh, this kinda sucks. Imma go do something else" release-requesters all around the same time?


I couldn't help but wonder where Sheamus's head is at after losing to Sami. He seems like another guy that has taken a back seat to all of these guys. I might be in the minority here too, but I don't think Zayn should be ahead of Sheamus on the food chain. AJ and KO sure, but Sami is just kind of blah for me. I'm also curious how Ziggler feels about re-signing now and how Del Rio feels about coming back.

And let's not forget Cena and Orton aren't even back yet! It's just going to get even harder to get the spotlight.

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#15 Posted on 24.5.16 1835.03
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    And let's not forget Cena and Orton aren't even back yet! It's just going to get even harder to get the spotlight.


Another reason why I pray for another Brand Split. It gives more guys a chance to shine and adds extra elements to career paths.

You run cold on Raw, reinvent yourself on SmackDown, come back when you've got momentum.

Zayn/Owens/Miz/Cesaro can battle it out every week, but only on one show so other guys get some match time.

Young guns can hide out from the the Cena/Orton/Reigns unbeatable scenario and develop in the warm safety of Friday nights.
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#16 Posted on 24.5.16 1916.46
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      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely


      I couldn't help but wonder where Sheamus's head is at after losing to Sami. He seems like another guy that has taken a back seat to all of these guys. I might be in the minority here too, but I don't think Zayn should be ahead of Sheamus on the food chain. AJ and KO sure, but Sami is just kind of blah for me.




    Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. Zayn is (to quote Stone Cold) that white-meat babyface they've been totally missing since Daniel Bryan. AJ one the other hand - it's not like there aren't a ton of guys with his same Indy credentials dying in the Midcard, or still down in NXT. Why is he vaulted right past both of those & into the title picture, while guys who have the same background & who can wrestle just as good but have better charisma, look, & mic skills are feuding over the IC & NXT titles?

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#17 Posted on 24.5.16 1936.08
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    Originally posted by J. Kyle
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      And let's not forget Cena and Orton aren't even back yet! It's just going to get even harder to get the spotlight.


    Another reason why I pray for another Brand Split. It gives more guys a chance to shine and adds extra elements to career paths.



They should really use this as a chance to figure out how to rotate talent in and out to allow some rest instead of doing even MORE shows.

Cody has sent out some cryptic Eden Tweets. She's either got a big promotion coming or is leaving too .. she doesn't have a big promotion coming.

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#18 Posted on 24.5.16 2004.56
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
      Originally posted by Quezzy
        Originally posted by Dr Unlikely


        I couldn't help but wonder where Sheamus's head is at after losing to Sami. He seems like another guy that has taken a back seat to all of these guys. I might be in the minority here too, but I don't think Zayn should be ahead of Sheamus on the food chain. AJ and KO sure, but Sami is just kind of blah for me.




      Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. Zayn is (to quote Stone Cold) that white-meat babyface they've been totally missing since Daniel Bryan. AJ one the other hand - it's not like there aren't a ton of guys with his same Indy credentials dying in the Midcard, or still down in NXT. Why is he vaulted right past both of those & into the title picture, while guys who have the same background & who can wrestle just as good but have better charisma, look, & mic skills are feuding over the IC & NXT titles?
    This is going to sound super fanboy. There is no one on the WWE roster, other than possibly Lesnar and definitely Balor (when he gets called up), who has even close to the same background as Styles. Wrestling ability is subjective once we start arguing over the upper echelon workers, so I won't touch that part (for my money it's Nakamura 1 Styles 2 and they're not far apart). Mic skills are serviceable to bad but that seems more of the norm now than the glaring exception. His look? The haircut sucks but it serves a point in making his strikes and sells look better. His look is fine. AJ has in-ring charisma for days. His non-Jericho WWE work speaks for itself. He did about 87% of the lifting in the Reigns feud and mad it compelling even though we all knew how it would end. That's when I realized my fanboy status and finally understood why people hype him so much. I like the new guys a lot too, but to say they're just as good or better than Styles at this point in their respective careers is vastly under rating Styles.
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#19 Posted on 24.5.16 2055.40
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Just so we're clear, there's a quoting error up there and the paragraph about Sami isn't me. I respect Quezzy's opinion, but I'm very pro-Zayn. He's probably ankled a little by Vince's inability to book a proper face (Roman, Cena, Rock, Austin, Michaels, Hogan - all kinda assholes as top face), but his talent will see him past that if he stays healthy.

That said, a really important distinction for me re: Zayn is that he hasn't been pushed to the top yet, so he can and should be at the US and IC level, as neither of them are demotions for him. Owens was pushed up to Cena level (which, as we know, is above the World title), Ambrose was in contention for the big belt (and probably should have had it), Styles went to the belt right away. For all three, going back down to the US title or the cursed IC title feels like a demotion (and the company is at fault for it). But with Zayn, they have the potential to naturally do what they tried to force on Bryan (for whom it was a demotion): an elite worker and endlessly likable guy who can salvage the mid-card and make the crown want him to progress to the top.

Styles, though, he had to come in at the top. The difference between TNA Styles and NJPW-to-now Styles is astounding. It was always clear he was a great worker in TNA, but in NJPW, he fully turned into a great wrestler, just a completely dynamic presence who can go full throttle but still tell a story fully in the ring against different opponents (see that Styles vs. Minoru Suzuki match - and seriously, see it! - vs. some of his other main event matches vs. guys more in his style like Tanahashi). He's not great on the mic, but neither was Bryan. Like Bryan, though, he's got presence. He's got it and seeing him in the ring now gets that across to audiences almost immediately. It's the same great problem they have with Nakamura - they sell themselves immediately as world class talent the second they get the chance to do so. (Also, like I said before, AJ looks like a human race car that wrestles, and that seems like something you can market pretty easily.)

I agree that, in a world where they won't turn Cena or Roman, Kevin Owens should be the #1 heel in the company. He has all of Jericho's heel instincts and smarts and willingness to play the part while remembering it's a part, with the ability to work full speed against anybody. I can only assume they pushed him back down instead of running with him out of some combination of "wanting to see how he'd handle it" and knowing that he would have made The Authority look like the stale act it so obviously was.

(Re: Sheamus, there's a selfish part of me that would love to see Sheamus and Shibata spend a year destroying each other in NJPW, but I'd imagine he's happy where he is. He's basically getting Corbin's "indie killer" gimmick as of this week, so he'll get plenty to do. They booked him into oblivion, but he can still be a valuable guy for younger bruisers who need someone to brawl against.)
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#20 Posted on 24.5.16 2144.10
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Cody has sent out some cryptic Eden Tweets. She's either got a big promotion coming or is leaving too .. she doesn't have a big promotion coming.


She apparently got a new, non-WWE job...maybe that was the impetus for the timing of Cody's exit?




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