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| #1 Posted on 11.5.16 0257.30 Reposted on: 11.5.23 0259.01 | WWE keeps hitting us over and over again with this "New Era" phrase. It's annoying. We still have Steph & Shane on our screens. So...how new is it and what do they mean by it?
It seems what they mean is that there's a whole new generation of wrestlers showing up, stepping up and taking over. Women are now women superstars and no longer divas. They have feuds that make sense and longer matches. Guys have feuds and longer matches. WWE (slightly) acknowledges an outside world.
Just look at who's been the focus of the main shows the past few weeks. Reigns, Ambrose, Cesaro. Less than 4 years WWE main roster experience. The New Day, been around like this for a year. Still a fresh act. Rusev is still new & fun. Owens, Zayn, AJ Styles, Gallows(this version)/Anderson, Vaudevillains, Lucha Dragons, Enzo & Cas all have been on the main roster for a year or less.
The only 'older' guys that are being used in main stories right now are Miz, Jericho and Ziggler. All 3 of them can definitely hang with the new batch. Then there's the Dudleyz who are used to prop the younger guys and R-Truth&Goldust who are being silly and these antics at least give Tyler Breeze and Fandango tv-time.
So yes, it IS a new era. Is everything perfect? Hell no.Cena looms once again. If they use him like they did last year (US open challenge) it'll be okay. Yes he gets lots of attention but it showcased other guys as well. And Reigns as the face of this new era isn't working at this point. But if WWE sticks with this direction of new/fresh people I feel we have some good things ahead.
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| #2 Posted on 12.5.16 1611.49 Reposted on: 12.5.23 1612.31 | Not substantiated in any way, but I wonder if "new era" is codespeak for Levesque having more control over the product. We are seeing a lot of his guys from NXT, and Raw has started to follow the NXT rules of the universe which include clean match finishes, women's wrestling (clapclap clap clap clap) and acknowledging the indies as a cool alternative universe that occasionally crosses over with WWF reality.
If that's the case, having McMahons on the screen would still make sense. And at least from my point of view, Stephanie is their best current heel and a good on screen performer. I don't object to her appearing, just to how her finishes are too often booked.
The only thing wrong with Cena has been booking and scripting. Us older fans (smarks!) are generally objecting to the packaging, not the product. If the "new era" includes some free reign from the performers to build their own characters, we could get a few entertaining final years out of the guy. He isn't into the hokey/cheesy stuff he's made to do.
For the record, I love NXT and it's the "main show" to me, so perhaps this is wishful thinking. | Chumpstain
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| #3 Posted on 12.5.16 1759.36 Reposted on: 12.5.23 1759.38 | I can't fully buy into the "this is really a new era" belief coming right off Wrestlemania as we are. It stuck to what's become the new formula of featuring part-timers and old stars. It's all well and good to have a focus on the newcomers, to try to establish this as a new era, but I have little faith at the moment that come next March they'll still be the focus. Wrestlemania will again be about the Undertaker's big match, about whatever Brock Lesnar does, about who Triple H will be fighting and what the Rock will be doing, while the guys carrying the torch now are going to wind up stuck in another Intercontinental Championship ladder match like most of them were last month.
I encourage WWE to prove me wrong! | thecubsfan
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| #4 Posted on 12.5.16 2242.40 Reposted on: 12.5.23 2242.46 | Originally posted by dMp So...how new is it and what do they mean by it?
They mean Roman Reigns is the #1 guy now. Everything else is to try and sell WrestleMania as a monumental start of something new in hopes of re-energizing fans. It's nothing more than a marketing buzzword.
Not substantiated in any way, but I wonder if "new era" is codespeak for Levesque having more control over the product.
They'd definitely like to sell this as a meta-story but there's been no creative change. | dMp
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| #5 Posted on 13.5.16 0215.11 Reposted on: 13.5.23 0216.45 | Originally posted by thecubsfan
Originally posted by dMp So...how new is it and what do they mean by it?
They mean Roman Reigns is the #1 guy now. Everything else is to try and sell WrestleMania as a monumental start of something new in hopes of re-energizing fans. It's nothing more than a marketing buzzword.
Of course. In wrestling it's all about marketing buzzwords. Not different than 'ruthless aggression' and all that stuff we've had over the years.
And even if it is just about having Reigns as the top guy, the card around him right now IS full of "up & comers" and looks good. But I agree with Chump. The proof will be what happens between Survivor Series and WM. Who will get the big matches. Or possible before that when we find out how they bring back Orton. I am not against a mix of things though. Brock taking on one of the newer guys. Cena duking it out with Reigns just to fuck over the crowd. | Tenken347
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| #6 Posted on 13.5.16 0700.58 Reposted on: 13.5.23 0703.32 | Originally posted by thecubsfan
Originally posted by dMp So...how new is it and what do they mean by it?
They mean Roman Reigns is the #1 guy now. Everything else is to try and sell WrestleMania as a monumental start of something new in hopes of re-energizing fans. It's nothing more than a marketing buzzword.
Man, we'd have been all over "New Generation" if we'd been on the internet at the time. It's the same deal - new guys getting featured. Heck, Reigns is a new guy, really. Debuted on RAW in 2012. | Dr Unlikely
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| #7 Posted on 13.5.16 0851.18 Reposted on: 13.5.23 0851.21 | Originally posted by thecubsfan They'd definitely like to sell this as a meta-story but there's been no creative change.
Ryan Ward did recently get promoted from NXT up to being the head writer on the main shows, though, right? Is there a timetable on when that happened? I'm curious because the last few weeks of the show have felt more logically written and laid out (while NXT has been feeling a little more aimless of late on a macro level). Certainly could be coincidence, but I'm vaguely fascinated by this guy, who I've only seen once as the Daniel Bryan Whisperer in a clip from around the famous snowed-out Raw last year. Is there any word on his deal and whether he might secretly be a (Late, Lamented) Chris Kreski For A New Era? Or is he truly shrouded in secrecy, presumably to protect the lore of The NXT Man HHH? | thecubsfan
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| #8 Posted on 14.5.16 1543.38 Reposted on: 14.5.23 1545.22 | Ward was brought up late last year or early this year, and at first was said to be working only on SmackDown and lately helping with both shows. It feels like the change has been more apparent on NXT (which is now almost only "star beats non-star" matches in between TakeOvers) than anything on the big show.
People seemed to like his work in NXT and that's what got him the promotion, but it's unclear how big a voice he has in Raw. The WON doesn't seem to be giving any one credit for specific storylines, outside of infinitely repeating that Vince is ultimately responsible for everything any time people ask if HHH has a bigger role. | Quezzy
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| #9 Posted on 15.5.16 1646.21 Reposted on: 15.5.23 1652.02 | Originally posted by thecubsfan It feels like the change has been more apparent on NXT (which is now almost only "star beats non-star" matches in between TakeOvers) than anything on the big show.
I marathoned through about a year and a half of NXT in the last month NXT has been a glorified Superstars for pretty much that entire year and a half. So unless Ward was called up a year and a half ago I'd say it's the same show it's always been. OCCASIONALLY there are two good matches in a show but usually it's garbage and then a good main event. I think the talent is starting to diminish too. I honestly don't know why people rave about NXT. The Takeovers are great but the weekly show is just not good. | dMp
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| #10 Posted on 16.5.16 0405.26 Reposted on: 16.5.23 0405.58 | Because it is a show where people wrestle. No crazy weird storylines that take place outside of the ring or in a talkshow. Person has an issue, they wrestle over it. Guys attack one another? Regal makes a match, often for the same show or next week or so. Eventually the Takeovers give the big pay-off. I like that even in star vs nobody matches the nobody gets enough offense to look legit. Sometimes the matches can be sloppy but keep in mind that half the roster IS true developmental. And that half also awaits their time to be built up into a bigger/better character. 2 years ago Dawson was jobbing every week now he's a bonafide badass. Bayley was a silly little girl-woman, now she's one of the most popular people they have. Samson is annoying and yet also getting awesome as you can see him improve the character each show. Etc... love NXT. Even the bad moments are fun. | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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