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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - WWE Raw #1161 8/24/2015 (Season 23, Episode 34: "SummerSlam Results Are Reviewed")
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#1 Posted on 24.8.15 2222.51
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WELCOME TO MONDAY NIGHT RAW, EPISODE ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY-ONE! WE ARE LIVE, FOR AN HISTORIC THIRD NIGHT IN A ROW, IN FRONT OF AN HISTORIC CAPACITY CROWD FROM THE BARCLAYS CENTER IN HISTORIC BROOKLYN, NEW YORK!

Tonight: Fall out from The Biggest Party of the Summer: SummerSlam!

Here's what happened:

-The New Day came out to celebrate their epic SummerSlam victory and second WWE Tag Team Championship reign by having Xavier Woods play Trombone to the tune of "Theme From New York, New York" for a song called, we must assume, "Theme From New Day, New Day".

-That is all.
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#2 Posted on 24.8.15 2223.49
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So.....NOTHING wazz up?
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#3 Posted on 24.8.15 2228.04
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You left out Woods playing 'Taps' when New Day hit their finisher. Maybe the greatest moment in wrestling (nay, human) history.

Since WWE went to the trouble of actually making a mock statue, maybe it would've been cooler to reveal it painted with Sting makeup?

It would be great if Cena is continually screwed out of the world title by various people acting on Flair's behalf, only to have Flair come out every time and act all "no no, I like Cena, really, he's cool" until it becomes more and more overtly disingenuous. This will ultimately lead to a match between Cena and....uh, Charlotte? Ok, the plan needs some work.

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#4 Posted on 24.8.15 2233.37
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I feel really bad for the WWE sculptor who has been contracted to make all those shitty statues. This was probably his masterpiece. He was probably all puffed with pride in the back with his family by his side for the big unveiling only for us to get an old man in sweaty face paint.

We're headlining back to back PPV with a match featuring a 50+ year old! Nice job with that new talent.

I also feel bad for the Divas ... and the sad end to New Days trombone bit.

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#5 Posted on 24.8.15 2247.53
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WWE needs to dedicate a single writer and a new producer to the Divas. What creative did with them tonight was horrible. I'm not sure if the producer told them to work a 1980s NWA match, or if that was the best match they could get out of the Bellas and Alicia Fox. I ended up fast forwarding through as much as I could before catching up live.
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#6 Posted on 24.8.15 2305.37
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The WWE did a segment where their biggest face gave a 52 year old celebrity his finishing move (which he shook off like he took a snap mare) and then announced the main challenger for their biggest title is 4 years older than said celebrity.
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#7 Posted on 24.8.15 2338.22
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so...is Sting someone Rollins can actually beat without massive help, or is it more important to protect Sting from two straight losses? (Clue: is this Sting's last match?)
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#8 Posted on 25.8.15 0012.42
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    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    The WWE did a segment where their biggest face gave a 52 year old celebrity his finishing move (which he shook off like he took a snap mare) and then announced the main challenger for their biggest title is 4 years older than said celebrity.


He had to be helped out by a ring physician and 3 refs, I think it was a bit more than snap mare...
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#9 Posted on 25.8.15 0019.38
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    so...is Sting someone Rollins can actually beat without massive help, or is it more important to protect Sting from two straight losses? (Clue: is this Sting's last match?)


I doubt it's Sting's last match (unless he has a horrific career-ending injury). I watched a video where HHH booked the match with Sting and Rollins, but I didn't see him say that it was for the title. Since it's Night of Champions, I'm assuming it's a title match, but they haven't used those words yet.

Look, I'm a Sting mark and after losing to HHH, I'm perfectly fine with breaking the monotony and giving Sting a month long or even 24-hour reign because screw it, it's not like Rollins is Brock Lesnar and he's beatable. I'm sure Sting would get the full benefit of Cena and Flair's help. Sheamus could also cash in so they can get rid of that stupid briefcase.
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#10 Posted on 25.8.15 0029.19
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    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I'm sure Sting would get the full benefit of Cena and Flair's help.


Oh man, now I really want to see Flair help Sting win the title, then immediately turn on him for old time's sake so Sheamus can cash in.
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#11 Posted on 25.8.15 0035.53
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    Since it's Night of Champions, I'm assuming it's a title match, but they haven't used those words yet.


FWIW: They did announce Rollins/Sting as a title match on the Network after the show went off the air.
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#12 Posted on 25.8.15 0143.00
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    You left out Woods playing 'Taps' when New Day hit their finisher. Maybe the greatest moment in wrestling (nay, human) history.


This is just New Day's world and we're all living in it. They are absolute must-see TV now. I haven't had this much fun with a tag team since Edge & Christian.

I also love bringing the Dudleyz back, just because of how much it reinvigorates the tag division in a single stroke. I do, however, feel really bad for the guys I used to refer to as the Prime Time Losers. The PTPs have absolutely earned the chance to be the division's top babyface team with both Titus and Darren improving exponentially. If they become an afterthought in all this, it'll truly be a shame.
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#13 Posted on 25.8.15 0148.55
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
      I'm sure Sting would get the full benefit of Cena and Flair's help.


    Oh man, now I really want to see Flair help Sting win the title, then immediately turn on him for old time's sake so Sheamus can cash in.
My thoughts coming through your fingers. I have no problem with this because if they're going to do one (HA!) show a year where a legend gets to work a main event, it should be Night of Champions. Give the belt to Sting. Cena can come out the following Monday night to congratulate him and then immediately tell him that he never got his rematch from SummerSlam, so he's invoking his rematch clause later that night. Number 16. Rollins then beats Cena at Hell in a Cell and we're back to where we are now, two months in the future.

It really sucks that two Raw crowds in a row shit on women's matches. Unfortunately, Vince/Dunn/etc will see it as, "See! I was right about women's wrestling! No one cares! Give me a hog pen lingerie pillow fight!" instead of for what it is: fans don't get invested in things that they aren't given any reason to be invested in. It's a writing and booking problem, not a women's wrestling problem. The NXT co-main from this past weekend should be exhibit A of that, but Vince doesn't watch that shit.

The most interesting thing they could do with Flair/Cena is to have Flair help Cena get to 16 and then have Flair do anything and everything to keep him at 16. If he never loses, he will never get the chance to break Flair's record.
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#14 Posted on 25.8.15 0629.35
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NXT: The Future is Now
RAW: The Dudleyz and Sting are back!!!

F that crowd for crapping on the women's match that badly. Yeah they need to stop having these mix-and-match tags but still...doing the wave isn't the "Universe" having "fun" JBL...

I have no idea who is supposed to be the face in that Cena-JonStew interaction any more.

I tuned in just in time for Xavier's trombone antics. Outstanding.
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#15 Posted on 25.8.15 0639.11
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I wish Woods had done the sad trombone noise at the PTPs, but that was otherwise perfect. The one thing I will give the crowd credit for during the women's match was chanting "We want Sasha." to blatantly steal (and also misquote)Dr. Unlikely's line, "If you can't make money promoting Sasha Banks, maybe don't promote wrestling shows anymore."
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#16 Posted on 25.8.15 0651.02
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I've read some people say that it was OK that Cena AAed Stewart because Stewart cost him the match. That's not really the way a good guy is supposed to do things. John Cena remains the WWEs biggest bully. Special mention goes to the faces (and wow, there was a really noticeable jocks versus schmoes theme in that match) who teamed up on the guy who not only won them the match but also got beat up by his own teammates.

It was maybe two Flair podcasts ago (the mailbag one) where Ric said he'd be fine with Cena breaking his record. Maybe Jon Stewart wasn't hip to the WOOOOO! Nation. But it does make me wonder if the person who asked the question was Vince.

Is this the first time in recent wrestling history where a face who was escorted out didn't come back by the end of the show?

Poor Bo.

The faster they can get the Bellas out of the title picture the better. Has Nikki broken AJ's record yet?

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#17 Posted on 25.8.15 0659.55
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    Originally posted by LostInUbe


    It was maybe two Flair podcasts ago (the mailbag one) where Ric said he'd be fine with Cena breaking his record. Maybe Jon Stewart wasn't hip to the WOOOOO! Nation. But it does make me wonder if the person who asked the question was Vince.





John Cena 15x World Champion and Randy Orton 13x World Champion sounds impressive and is true, but this company had two World Title belts for years that were never really equal anyways. It won't be remembered that way years from now and it is splitting hairs, but Flair's World Titles and whichever future star gets to the teens will always be a more impressive feat.

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#18 Posted on 25.8.15 0734.56
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      Originally posted by LostInUbe


      It was maybe two Flair podcasts ago (the mailbag one) where Ric said he'd be fine with Cena breaking his record. Maybe Jon Stewart wasn't hip to the WOOOOO! Nation. But it does make me wonder if the person who asked the question was Vince.





    John Cena 15x World Champion and Randy Orton 13x World Champion sounds impressive and is true, but this company had two World Title belts for years that were never really equal anyways. It won't be remembered that way years from now and it is splitting hairs, but Flair's World Titles and whichever future star gets to the teens will always be a more impressive feat.




Of course even the number of 16 is the WWE approved number (I believe it could go as high as 20 plus) to begin with.
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#19 Posted on 25.8.15 0741.49
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Even I, the most cynical of fans, found this show to be awesome. To start things off with a Heyman promo is always good. Then we get New Day getting destroyed by the Dudleys. Now, it gets muddy. The Divas Revolution is turning into its Alamo. The Bellas are just awful. Now, this is not a popular opinion and caused a bit of tweeter storm between myself, Johnny O, the Bellas, Paige and well every WWE fan on twitter. The level of spite this company goes to is one of the reasons they have a shitty track record. Regardless, the ladies shouldn't blame the fans, they should blame the dumb ass creative team who thought Nikki is good and their writing was ok.

Cena is a not a Star. I also love the idea of Flair playing the long con with Cena. Yet, that is too great of an idea for a company that had those women's segments. The Wyatts needed another member and this dude looks good enough. I was hoping Brock would come out and suplex the statue instead what we got was better. Sting in a title match. This makes his lose to HHH look even more stupid.

Sting probably won't win or at least get the title. They really need to get the money in the bank thing off of Sheamus, because he is just not connecting with the fans or any level. Rollins has really stepped his game up of late, so taking the belt off of him would be silly.

The big take away for me from Raw is what is the end game for Brock and Heyman. They seem to acknowledging waiting til Mania is a bad idea. Owens is a work horse for this week. Stardust is a nice level of Chaotic Evil. The Dudley Boyz is a great choice, because there are no veterans in that tag division. For one night, WWE put on a good to great Raw, a virtual miracle after months of ok to shit episodes.

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#20 Posted on 25.8.15 0753.06
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Crowd really soured me on what was otherwise a pretty good show.
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