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#1 Posted on 18.5.15 2309.35
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Owens makes his RAW debut and Cena makes him look legit right out of the gate. A match between the two is signed for Elimination Chamber, which is an already better feud than anything Cena has done since Lesnar. Along with a six team tag title elimination chamber match and an elimination chamber match for the IC title AND Rollins defending against Ambrose, this Network exclusive looks great on paper so far. Lana turns and Paige returns, otherwise, pretty standard RAW

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#2 Posted on 18.5.15 2317.55
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During the show, I publicly questioned why they would book THREE title matches and not once promote the show a SINGLE time by saying "HEY! THREE TITLE MATCHES TONIGHT!!" but WWE proved they knew what they were doing by booking two DQs and a no-match. Still, the women had the main event "match" so at least they Gave Divas a......
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#3 Posted on 18.5.15 2327.45
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Horrible RAW. I should have known their streak of putting on quality shows, which they'd been on since Wrestlemania, would come screeching to a halt the moment StepHHH (speaking of screeching) made their return. I came downstairs to watch the opening of RAW, saw that we were returning to usual format of 30 minutes of HHH and Steph talking and hogging the spotlight all to themselves, and went back to finish watching last night's Game of Thrones.

Almost wish I hadn't even bothered to watch tonight. Truly a pathetic showing. Those two literally suck the life out of every show they appear on. Couldn't those two have stayed filming Tough Enough or whatever and just kept their stench off of RAW for awhile longer?

This, combined with the fact that TNA's moving back to Wednesday and out of my viewing schedule, really makes me despair for my further enjoyment of wrestling. Lucha Underground is on Wednesdays too, leaving me only two nights of shitty WWE programming. No way in Hell I'm paying them for the Network right now, even with the Chamber looking like a fun event.
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#4 Posted on 18.5.15 2342.02
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    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    Horrible RAW.


Did we watch the same show?

- Owens showed he isn't just "next level", he's the final level. Cena made him look like a bazillion bucks, and the whole thing made NXT Takeover look like a huge deal.

- The main event interview was wonderfully done, and sets up Rollins vs Ambrose. Plus, it looks like officially moving forward Rollins will now use the pedigree - which is the ultimate rub from Triple H himself.

- Ambrose looks like a competent challenger, one whose crazy enough to do stupid stuff like fight them all.

- New Day continues to rock, and that tag title match should be excellent.

- Neville vs Dallas in NXT BEEF!!!!
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#5 Posted on 18.5.15 2347.44
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Yes, we did. It was awful.

Owens did little that interested me. He did exactly two moves, and yeah, the pop-up powerbomb was epic. It was also flanked by 10 minutes of talking that I didn't care about from either person. Owens has talent in the ring from what little I've seen, but his mic abilities leave something to be desired. And I'm so damn tired of Cena's "USA USA" speeches already.

There is no such thing as a 'wonderfully done' main event interview, especially not one that features HHH and Stephanie going over everyone like they always have since this God-awful storyline began like 15 years ago.

New Day's decent. Bo Dallas is boring as fuck and a glorified jobber, though. He lost his chance to impress me a year ago, when he spun out his wheels. I'm not more impressed with him because he has a Van Dyke now. He wasn't even anything special in a Neville match, not that it's hard to be overshadowed by someone who can do what he can.

This was a RAW that makes me wonder why in the hell I even watch this show. And Stephanie gave me one very big reason why not to. Never having to see her giant, self-absorbed, incompetent face on my TV again might just be worth it.

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#6 Posted on 18.5.15 2357.20
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If you don't understand Kevin Owens and why his character work is the best in the business, why the Main Event interview was a huge deal (very close to a passing of the torch moment, also with it looking like Ambrose is goign to be treated seriously), the continuity nods with Dallas and Neville (Neville was the one who got Bo out of NXT), that Triple H and Stephanie are more nuanced bad guys than the cartoon villain Vince, then you should probably go enjoy TNA or whatever lotjx watches.
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#7 Posted on 19.5.15 0111.22
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TNA's only about a million times better than the garbage WWE turns into every time your precious Authority comes back to make it more of HHH and Stephen Go Over Everyone. This show had actually had a decent run without them, with the focus on WRESTLERS. Y'know, people who wrestle. Not a broken down egomaniac who wrestles one night a year and the owner's daughter. The second they come back, we go straight back into screwjob finishes and 30 minute promos to begin and end every show. I'll take Corrigan's booking over whatever idiot WWE has running things any day.
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#8 Posted on 19.5.15 0127.37
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    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    TNA's only about a million times better than the garbage WWE turns into every time your precious Authority comes back to make it more of HHH and Stephen Go Over Everyone. This show had actually had a decent run without them, with the focus on WRESTLERS. Y'know, people who wrestle. Not a broken down egomaniac who wrestles one night a year and the owner's daughter. The second they come back, we go straight back into screwjob finishes and 30 minute promos to begin and end every show. I'll take Corrigan's booking over whatever idiot WWE has running things any day.
This is brilliant when I hear it in GOB Bluth voice.
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#9 Posted on 19.5.15 0153.45
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Never has the phrase "Anyone that buys a PPV is a sucker" rung more true than tonight. The Chamber event is insanely stacked compared to whatever paper mache they used to slap together the Payback card (and probably whatever they'll use to slap together the Money in the Bank card).
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#10 Posted on 19.5.15 0437.42
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    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    Bo Dallas is boring as fuck and a glorified jobber, though. He lost his chance to impress me a year ago, when he spun out his wheels. I'm not more impressed with him because he has a Van Dyke now. He wasn't even anything special in a Neville match, not that it's hard to be overshadowed by someone who can do what he can.


Bo Dallas didn't wrestle Neville, Bad News Barrett did. He was also clean shaven.

But apart from that...
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#11 Posted on 19.5.15 0459.24
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    Originally posted by JayGo
      Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
      Bo Dallas is boring as fuck and a glorified jobber, though. He lost his chance to impress me a year ago, when he spun out his wheels. I'm not more impressed with him because he has a Van Dyke now. He wasn't even anything special in a Neville match, not that it's hard to be overshadowed by someone who can do what he can.


    Bo Dallas didn't wrestle Neville, Bad News Barrett did. He was also clean shaven.

    But apart from that...
Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is going to actually watch the show before complaining about it. COME ON!

Solid Raw. I liked the majority of what was there, and what I didn't like was tolerable. Despite the rumors, there was wrestling. And it was pretty good! Kevin Owens makes me insanely happy, and I had never seen him before his NxT debut.

It probably wasn't the best idea to tout how the Elimination Chamber shortens careers when the reason behind the match is to crown a new champion because the previous guy has gotten his career shortened.
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#12 Posted on 19.5.15 0605.34
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The Cena-Owens segment was the most excited I've been watching Raw since The Wyatts and the Shield first mixed it up.

I HATE the Lana-Rusev stuff. There was never a reason to break them up they weren't Marc Mero and Sable. The abusive boyfriend/ held down girlfriend who is freed and wants the sex angle always sucks. WWE turned the into Mero-Sable needlessly.

I have no problems with an Ambrose vs Rollins program, but that celebration main event bit was an odd way to get there.

No Rowan and Harper in the Chamber? Is it because there is no way to air out their pod after the show? They really need to find their way into this thing.

Is R-Truth doing amazing things on Smackdown I don't know about?

Not a great Raw, but Cena-Owens was off the charts cool.



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#13 Posted on 19.5.15 0718.43
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    No Rowan and Harper in the Chamber? Is it because there is no way to air out their pod after the show? They really need to find their way into this thing.

I have a feeling Los Matadores best watch out over the next week and a half. I would love to see Harper and Rowan in there with Cesaro/Kidd and New Day.

Owens-Cena was great. I have really enjoyed the US Title open matches. It is fantastic to see another wave of NXT talent surfacing.
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#14 Posted on 19.5.15 0737.27
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Yeah..Owens/Cena..whatever. We said same thing about Rusev too. Lets wait and see what happens before we announce Owens as Lesnar: Bigger Badder. Cena may lose, but don't hold your breath.

HHH and Steph are death for this show. It would be different if either one of them could take a bump. Instead they gifted Rollins with HHH's move, because obviously there is no other finisher out there in wrestling land. Obviously. Because no one can get over without their help.

Ambrose and Rollins deserve the main event spotlight. I just wish there was some doubt about it instead of the general feeling that nothing is going to happen this summer til Brock comes back.
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#15 Posted on 19.5.15 1101.08
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    Originally posted by Stefonics
      Originally posted by JayGo
        Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
        Bo Dallas is boring as fuck and a glorified jobber, though. He lost his chance to impress me a year ago, when he spun out his wheels. I'm not more impressed with him because he has a Van Dyke now. He wasn't even anything special in a Neville match, not that it's hard to be overshadowed by someone who can do what he can.


      Bo Dallas didn't wrestle Neville, Bad News Barrett did. He was also clean shaven.

      But apart from that...
    Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is going to actually watch the show before complaining about it. COME ON!



News flash, I wasn't talking about this week's show when I said Dallas failed to thrill me against Neville. They wrestled last week to start this feud. And Dallas was nothing impressive. In fact, he hasn't done anything to impress me since he debuted in WWE. I know the difference between Dallas and Barrett, especially since BNB has had some awesome matches and been in some hot feuds. Neither of which I can say for Bo.

But go on, continue to make lame jokes about how I didn't watch the show. I wish I hadn't, but I damn well did.

Also, $4,000 suit? What the hell are you babbling about?

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#16 Posted on 19.5.15 1207.08
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    I came downstairs to watch the opening of RAW, saw that we were returning to usual format of 30 minutes of HHH and Steph talking and hogging the spotlight all to themselves, and went back to finish watching last night's Game of Thrones
So, you DID stop watching the show?

    Bo Dallas is boring as fuck and a glorified jobber, though. He lost his chance to impress me a year ago, when he spun out his wheels. I'm not more impressed with him because he has a Van Dyke now.
Maybe I'm not hep to what a Van Dyke is these days, but the fact that Bo came out clean shaven and you appear to have completely missed that fact is the sort of thing that might lead one to believe that perhaps you weren't really paying attention to the show...notwithstanding the four posts and counting you've contributed to this thread, I mean.

    This was a RAW that makes me wonder why in the hell I even watch this show.
You're not the only wonderer!

    I'll take Corrigan's booking over whatever idiot WWE has running things any day.
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#17 Posted on 19.5.15 1234.11
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Yes, I stopped watching it. For the 20-30 minutes it took for RAW to stop being the McMahon-Helmsley Self-Promotion Hour, then I was paying at least halfway attention straight through until it was time to thankfully switch over to Conan at 10. If it was only halfway, well, that says a fair amount for how RAW was lacking this week.

Upon rewatching Dallas' segment from this week, he did indeed shave the mustache/goatee combo he'd been sporting since Wrestlemania or so. In my defense, he spent maybe a minute on-screen and was mostly on commentary this week. And I rarely pay close attention to post-match beatdowns. Regardless, he's not shown me anything to make me 'Bo-lieve' he's anything special.

I keep posting because people keep replying... Mostly to try and claim I didn't watch the show, it seems like. As for that last comment, I've made no secret of the fact that I prefer TNA. They do more with much less. Sorry you don't agree. Usually it doesn't keep me from enjoying both shows, except for when WWE reminds me why I need an alternative source for wrestling.
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#18 Posted on 19.5.15 1436.03
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Bo on commentary was one of the better parts of the show, if just for his obsequious tone and repeatedly referring to Booker as "Mr. T!" I stand by my previous suggestion that New Day should have been formed to combat the Wyatt Family and add that Bo should be their spiritual advisor.

Ryback won the night on the mic, though, by being the first active wrestler to completely shut down Stephanie in the middle of one of her vintage attempts to completely steamroll somebody and take attention away from, you know, the people she actually pays to get over. And he did it with style, too. "BIG GUY'S GOT THE MIC, BIG GUY'S TALKIN'!" And it worked! I love you, Ryback. Too bad you'll get hyper-buried because of that.

That Lana/Rusev stuff, that's not so good. Like, as a TV thing, not as any greater social issue. What are they going to do with Rusev? With Lana? Putting her with Ziggler? What?

It saddens me to have to say it on this, of all days*, but this show would be a thousand times more watchable if you could simply take a laser and carve Kane, HHH and Stephanie out of it. The talent is there and slowly but surely forcing their personalities to the front for better (New Day! Titus! of all people ROMAN!) or worse (Ziggler, possibly), but every time this show opens with The Authority coming out for a 20 minute interview, which seems to be EVERY SINGLE WEEK for the last 20 years and the next 75 years, I just want to die. I literally want to stop watching WWE programming forever. I hate it. It's horrible. Stop. Stop. Please, stop. No more Authority. No more 20 minute opening promos and devoting every opening and 95% of every closing to The Authority coming out and cackling and then making "uuuuhh oooooh!" faces as we do another slow-burn on Kane. I know every top angle has to be about The Authority because the two of them are helplessly in love with themselves as TV performers based on pretty much nothing but being the two biggest marks in the business, but why is the top angle in 2015 about Kane? He's going to turn on the Authority, chokeslam Rollins, get a nice pop for it and turn heel again six weeks later. We know this. We know it. Stop.

Neville is great. Zayn will be great. Owens can be great. You have almost 10 active tag teams, and almost half of them have the talent and/or charisma to actually help carry a division. Your best worker is your champ. You're finally (admittedly an entire year too late) booking Reigns in the right direction. Ambrose has almost fully repaired himself from the nearly fatal damage you did. Cena's Indy Worker Fantasy Camp has lit a fire in him in the ring and made for fun weekly TV. These are all really good things.

Stop making it so hard to last long enough to get to them. Stop making me want to turn your show off as soon as it starts and when it gets to the end every single week. Stop continually booking the same angle that got old and killed your ratings over a decade ago. Stop.

Stop.

Also, use almost missing Owens doing U Can't See Me to Cena as an excuse to fire Dunn. Come on, man.


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#19 Posted on 19.5.15 1504.25
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    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    That Lana/Rusev stuff, that's not so good. Like, as a TV thing, not as any greater social issue. What are they going to do with Rusev? With Lana? Putting her with Ziggler? What?


The best part of that was how uncomfortable Dolph looked kissing Lana. Like, she was being a pro about the whole thing, but he was super awkward kissing his coworker in front of like 10,000 people. The worst part of all of this is that they have the makings of a great face-turn for Rusev and it's going in the garbage so that they can also ruin Lana.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    It saddens me to have to say it on this, of all days*, but this show would be a thousand times more watchable if you could simply take a laser and carve Kane, HHH and Stephanie out of it. The talent is there and slowly but surely forcing their personalities to the front for better (New Day! Titus! of all people ROMAN!) or worse (Ziggler, possibly), but every time this show opens with The Authority coming out for a 20 minute interview, which seems to be EVERY SINGLE WEEK for the last 20 years and the next 75 years, I just want to die. I literally want to stop watching WWE programming forever. I hate it. It's horrible. Stop. Stop. Please, stop.


Last week on Smackdown they had this bit where Bray Wyatt actually broke into the show's open to cut a promo, and it was so different from the way the shows have been laid out for the last forever that I couldn't believe that they'd actually done it. There's no reason for them to have a set-in-stone format for what is functionally a variety show. Do something else in the first segment, and trot the Authority out for hour two if you have to do it. Mix it up a bit.
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#20 Posted on 19.5.15 1549.29
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    The best part of that was how uncomfortable Dolph looked kissing Lana. Like, she was being a pro about the whole thing, but he was super awkward kissing his coworker in front of like 10,000 people.


Isn't Lana and Rusev still a real life couple?

http://www.rantsports.com/​pro-​wrestling/​2014/​09/​07/​10-​pictures-​of-​real-​life-​wwe-​couple-​lana-​rusev/​

Pretty tough having to make out with the girlfriend of a guy you have to work with.

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