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#1 Posted on 2.5.15 2357.37 Reposted on: 2.5.22 2359.01
This fight was a joke. Mayweather did nothing but dodge punches and run all night. I just did not see it as huge as it was on the judges scorecards. But, I guess it just wasn't what I was seeing.
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#3 Posted on 3.5.15 0736.13 Reposted on: 3.5.22 0737.31
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Also, I figured there would be no chance at a rematch since Mayweather convincingly won the fight. But now there's Pacquiao saying his shoulder was injured before the fight.
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#5 Posted on 4.5.15 0757.14 Reposted on: 4.5.22 0759.01
I guess I'm spoiled by the UFC using AGGRESIVENESS as a judging criteria in scoring. Mayweather ran, danced, evaded and hugged. Sure that's "boxing", but "boxing" is fucking boring to watch.
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#6 Posted on 4.5.15 0908.04 Reposted on: 4.5.22 0915.09
Originally posted by StaggerLeeI guess I'm spoiled by the UFC using AGGRESIVENESS as a judging criteria in scoring
Boxing uses "effective aggressiveness." The fact is Floyd both threw AND landed more punches than Manny, so it's hard to argue Manny was being effective at much of anything other than in spots.
Mayweather ran, danced, evaded and hugged. Sure that's "boxing", but "boxing" is fucking boring to watch.
Boring matches are boring to watch, whether they are UFC, boxing, WWE...boring is boring. I realize it's going to be the thing for "UFC RULEZ" guys to act like there have never been two guys dryhumping all over the mat for five rounds and getting shat on by the house, but it happens.
This was a typical "Floyd Mayweather Fight." There will never be a Hagler-Hearns classic with Floyd's name attached to it. I saw a tweet from Dan Rubenstein of SBNation.com (it's a website) that compared Floyd/Manny to the 9-6 Alabama-LSU rockfight from a couple years ago and I thought it was a good comparison.
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#7 Posted on 4.5.15 1050.08 Reposted on: 4.5.22 1052.26
Originally posted by dMrSadly good guys don't always win.
True. Not sure what that has to do with this match, though, since both guys have demonstrated (either by their words or their actions) that they are bad guys.
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#8 Posted on 4.5.15 1239.00 Reposted on: 4.5.22 1242.45
Originally posted by StingArmy
Originally posted by dMrSadly good guys don't always win.
True. Not sure what that has to do with this match, though, since both guys have demonstrated (either by their words or their actions) that they are bad guys.
Can't think that Manny's done much that would mean he would be considered a bad guy. I know he cheated on his wife, but that's not exactly unforgivable, and certainly much better than beating the ever-loving shit out of her.
Originally posted by JJD I realize it's going to be the thing for "UFC RULEZ" guys to act like there have never been two guys dryhumping all over the mat for five rounds and getting shat on by the house, but it happens.
Shout out to Jake Shields!
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#9 Posted on 4.5.15 1418.13 Reposted on: 4.5.22 1422.34
Originally posted by JayJayDean
Originally posted by StaggerLeeI guess I'm spoiled by the UFC using AGGRESIVENESS as a judging criteria in scoring
Boxing uses "effective aggressiveness." The fact is Floyd both threw AND landed more punches than Manny, so it's hard to argue Manny was being effective at much of anything other than in spots.
According to the Unified LOLNO12TO6ELBOWS Rules of MMA, judging criteria is based on effective striking, grappling, aggression, and cage/ring control, in order of descending importance.
Judges who prize aggression before effectiveness are idiots who don't understand how to do their job but do love them some Diego Sanchez and Leonard Garcia.
And people may hate to watch Shields/old school Fitch/original run Askren/cuddle mode GSP but their ability to shutdown the striking of opponents with effective grappling is literally more important than how bad the other guys wanted to "just scrap" according to the rules.
Hell on the striking tip, I don't like Bisping and am big fan (and former student of) Leben but no matter how much harder you hit or how much more you want it while he's on his bike, if he hits you three or four times for every one time you hit him, you win. Aggression and pillow hands be damned. Forward movement be damned. The nebulous idea of control be damned.
Not an expert on boxing, but it's mostly the same there, Pac Man is the better human being by a (whole freaking) lot from what we know, but whether you're moving forward or backward it's about how many times you're landing or how well.
It's neither a street fight nor the Tenkaichi Budokai it's a sport. And them's the rules.
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#10 Posted on 5.5.15 1126.07 Reposted on: 5.5.22 1127.18
Originally posted by dMr
Originally posted by StingArmy
Originally posted by dMrSadly good guys don't always win.
True. Not sure what that has to do with this match, though, since both guys have demonstrated (either by their words or their actions) that they are bad guys.
Can't think that Manny's done much that would mean he would be considered a bad guy. I know he cheated on his wife, but that's not exactly unforgivable, and certainly much better than beating the ever-loving shit out of her.
Well, he's also a renowned homophobe. I suppose that doesn't bother some people, but I could do without.
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#12 Posted on 5.5.15 1312.54 Reposted on: 5.5.22 1315.54
In fairness I think he's said he has no problem with homosexuality but doesn't believe in gay marriage on religious grounds.
Whilst not a position I agree with, I don't believe it makes him a bad person.
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#13 Posted on 5.5.15 1332.35 Reposted on: 5.5.22 1338.05
Originally posted by StingArmyWell, he's also a renowned homophobe. I suppose that doesn't bother some people, but I could do without.
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By "renowned homophobe" do you mean "Manny adheres to the teachings of the Catholic Church, which has been consistent on this issue for 2000 years"? And by that I mean what the Church actually teaches versus what people thinks it teaches?
If you take the time to read it, it's a hell of a lot better than a wife beater.
EDIT: dmr beat me too it, although much less sarcastic than me.
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#14 Posted on 5.5.15 1439.47 Reposted on: 5.5.22 1440.48
I think StingArmy was just listing additional flaws of Manny's rather than implying anything Pac Man's ever done is on the same level as Mayweather. I hope.
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#15 Posted on 7.5.15 1527.20 Reposted on: 7.5.22 1529.03
Originally posted by J. KyleI think StingArmy was just listing additional flaws of Manny's rather than implying anything Pac Man's ever done is on the same level as Mayweather. I hope.
Let's hug it out.
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