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#1 Posted on 22.3.15 1515.12
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Yeah fine nobody cares, but this was a perfectly acceptable wrestling show again this week highlighted by a World Title change. I missed some of the show and have already forgotten enough of it, but some highlights include ...

There was an Ultimate X match.

Spud capturing the Television(?) Title from a fallen Low Ki. Samoa Joe was there too for what I assume was his last taped appearance. It was Joe's match and I have totally blanked on who he fought, but that guy laid Joe and Ki out after it was all said and done letting Spud cash in. That's such a shitty paragraph I apologize.

Matt Hardy fell to James Storm in a no holds barred match trying to avenge his brother. Storm had his whole crew there and it was too much for Matt to overcome. This was fine, but Matt Hardy moves around the ring like a 50 year old Terry Funk these days. Also Storm bragged about ending Jeff's career. Jeff was advertised all night as returning to face Storm next week, but who knew that when this was all taped, right?

Terrell hung onto her title beating Kim and Kong.

Kurt Angle beat Bobby Lashley and is once again champion of TNA. First let me say TNA did a great job hyping this match. It felt big time, or as big time as it gets for them. The downside to that however is the match didn't totally deliver. I don't get Lashley,he is like this mannequin with muscles. Like a create-a-wrestler with a generic head. It drives me nuts and I have a hard time getting into what he is doing because of this. Angle looks OLD and broken down. He tries but his moves no longer have any pop to them. He wins with the anklelock. It was surprising but that may be because Lashley shows panic and pain like every other emotion :|

So, even thought this all sounds crappy. It wasn't. It was fun. It was TNA, so they do TNA type things and pipe in waaay too much crowd noise, but there was good action. If you paid $15 dollars to see at your neighborhood gym as a local Indy event you would have come away pleased, and that is how I view TNA now and it works for me. If you view this as a major brand you will be letdown. It's all in how you perceive it, much like anything and right now any wrestling that is not Raw has been working for me, so there you go.




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#2 Posted on 22.3.15 1534.44
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The guy Joe and Low Ki got beat up by was Austin Aries. He's not bad, wrestles japanese strong style, is kind of a hybrid between Brian Danielson and CM Punk. Spud won the X-Division Title.

I guess Havok didn't make the trip across the pond. Boo.
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#3 Posted on 22.3.15 1546.18
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    Originally posted by Lexus
    The guy Joe and Low Ki got beat up by was Austin Aries. He's not bad, wrestles japanese strong style, is kind of a hybrid between Brian Danielson and CM Punk. Spud won the X-Division Title.




Austin Aries! I was thinking Magnus and knew that wasn't right. I'm old and didn't look it up when writing and even forgot to when I was done. I don't know if that should bother me or not. Thanks for the backup.
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#4 Posted on 22.3.15 1604.44
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I did watch and hey, I care about TNA Even if most of the board doesn't. Both TNA and Lucha Underground (from what I can catch of it) are putting on way better shows than WWE at the moment.

I rather enjoyed the Ultimate X match. The Wolves had a hard sell for me since I first met them during their feud with the Dudleys and the Hardys, but they definitely know what they're doing in there. And Storm's little cult sent out two of their high flier X-division types instead of Abyss, so between the six of them they had a hell of a match.

Hooray for Spud randomly winning the X-Division title! I do not imagine that Low Ki is going to be pleased when he wakes up. The nice thing about having 3 (count 'em) 3 'Money in the Bank' briefcases is that it's not a one-and-done trick, you can have them at odd times and still save some in reserve. Too bad Velvet got 'fired', instead of Random Bro-Man #2. Wonder if they have the 'Feast or Fired' match partially as a way to write off talent that's about to leave anyway?

Angle is champ again; good for him, but honestly, he is getting a bit too old for this shit. The wear and tear on him is really starting to show ... same for Matt Hardy, little as I like to admit it. It's cool that you were able to outlast your arch-rival Edge and even his fake brother Christian (RIP), but it's time to start thinking about hanging up the boots, V1. I kinda would have preferred Roode to have the belt at this point in time, but Angle/Lashley is as big name of a match as they can put on, especially with this being their first 'meeting'. I've noticed during the TNA replays they're oddly insistent on that terminology, which comes off weird when they spent 10 minutes popping up facts about Bram and Magnus growing up together, then explaining this this is their 'first time meeting.'

Taryn is still a hell of a Knockouts champ, but I noticed they left a way to continue the feud with Kong since the Awesome one wasn't pinned and didn't submit. The question remains of whether or not Taryn can actually beat Awesome Kong, and honestly, she's gonna have to bust out some crazy nonsense to take her down. Maybe a ladder match or some other sort of weapons match, but Kong is scary enough with her bare hands, let alone a chair or something. I like adding Kim into the mix of things, since Kong is not exactly fast in the ring. It's more fun to watch two little Knockouts bounce off of the gigantic Kong and try and knock her off her feet than it is to watch her bust poor Taryn's implants. Implant Buster indeed...
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#5 Posted on 22.3.15 1737.35
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Fantastic show this week. I thought it blew away all of their past Destination America era shows. Normally I care more about what happens out of the ring, rather than in the ring, but I was into every match on this show.

1. Tag titles: Wolves (c) v. Revolution (Manik/Sanada) v. Bro-Mans (Jesse and DJ Z)
I like the direction that they've taken with Manik--making him a stealth co-leader of the Revolution. His persuasiveness was what brought the indian guy (Shira? Koula?) into the Revolution. We saw it on display again in this match, where he wound up convincing the Bro-Mans to follow his orders for quite a while.

2. Aries v. Samoa Joe
Sad to see Joe's tenure end with a DQ loss and a FoF briefcase to the head. At least his final showdown was enjoyable. In terms of TV plotlines, the Beatdown Clan will be better off without Joe since the inclusion of him and Low Ki in the BDC never felt natural. Hopefully, going forward we'll see more natural chemistry between MVP, King, and Low Ki.

3. X title: Low Ki (c) v. Rockstar Spud
Two dudes with briefcases passing each other was a cool visual. I was suprised to see Spud cash in after the champ was laid out, but I suppose that Spud was anxious to get a victory after losing his hair last week following the spectacular brawl with ECIII.

To keep track, there are two briefcases left active now: Aries' world title shot, and Magnus' tag title shot.

4. Knockout title: Awesome Kong v. Gail Kim v. Taryn Terell (c)
Match of the night right here. Taryn was great. Gail as the veteran warrior always works. Kong as the unstoppable monster is perfect. Although, I join Lexus in hoping that Havoc makes her return. In the Knockouts division there is room for two monsters. Plus, she brought a certain energy that Kong doesn't have. Kong is the unstoppable destroyer, while Havoc was destruction plus some of Daffney's psychoness.

Taryn's facials were wonderful. The more she learns about Kong, the more frightened she gets. That look at the end where she is holding up the title, but then starts lowering it out of fear of Kong. Good stuff.

Also, Josh Matthews showed improvement on commentary during this match. Even I had forgotten that Taryn used to be a referee. Continuity points!

5. No DQ: Matt Hardy v. James Storm
Weakest match of the night due to how little was at stake. Matt is a guy who would be taken much more seriously if the Legends/TV title were still around for him to fight over.

At some point in the show Magnus and Mickie James brawled with Bram. Magnus looked good in this hero role.

6. TNA title: Kurt Angle v. Bobby Lashley (c)
Other than Kurt's one month 2011 reign (where he transitioned the title from Sting to Beer Money), this is Kurt's first reign since 2009. Physically Kurt looks better than he has since his last reign, so I'm hopeful that this reign will be good.

I loved Lashley as heel champion, but I'm glad to see his tweener run culminate. Lashley/Roode/BDC's issue had gotten stale.

If Slammiversary is a PPV this year, it would be perfect timing for Angle/ECIII: title v. streak to finally happen.
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#6 Posted on 22.3.15 2010.16
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EC3 should be the champ. Hopefully he doesn't get too tied down in the black hole of suck know as Mr. Anderson.
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#7 Posted on 22.3.15 2321.13
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This was a excellent show, but I strangely thought last weeks Spud/ECIII match was better.

What bothered me most this week is how they kept saying Kurt Angle was the first TNA World Champion. I mean, yes, technically he was, but that ignores an entire 6 year period when TNA used the NWA title as their championship title and completely ignores Ken Shamrock Jeff Jarrett, AJ Styles, Ron Killings, Raven, and Christian, who were all "TNA World Champion" before Kurt Angle even joined the company.

That just really bothered me through the entire show.
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#8 Posted on 22.3.15 2339.15
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    Originally posted by Cerebus


    What bothered me most this week is how they keep saying Kurt Angle was the first TNA World Champion. I mean, yes, technically he was, but that ignores an entire 6 year period when TNA used the NWA title as their championship title and completely ignores Ken Shamrock Jeff Jarrett, AJ Styles, Ron Killings, Raven, and Christian, who were all "TNA World Champion" before Kurt Angle even joined the company.



Uh, no, they were all NWA World Champion before Kurt joined the company.
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#9 Posted on 23.3.15 0020.47
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    Originally posted by CEOIII
      Originally posted by Cerebus


      What bothered me most this week is how they keep saying Kurt Angle was the first TNA World Champion. I mean, yes, technically he was, but that ignores an entire 6 year period when TNA used the NWA title as their championship title and completely ignores Ken Shamrock Jeff Jarrett, AJ Styles, Ron Killings, Raven, and Christian, who were all "TNA World Champion" before Kurt Angle even joined the company.



    Uh, no, they were all NWA World Champion before Kurt joined the company.
I'd swear that's what he said.
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#10 Posted on 23.3.15 0102.51
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Exactly what I said. It just feels weird to ignore that whole period of the companies existence because they were using the NWA title. Couldn't they have figured out some way to be able to make all those other guys who were the company's champions for that 6 year period a part of the TNA Championship lineage? It mostly feels like a way to ignore Jeff Jarrett's role in the history of the company.
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#11 Posted on 23.3.15 0147.20
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    It mostly feels like a way to ignore Jeff Jarrett's role in the history of the company.


And the problem here is.....?
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#12 Posted on 23.3.15 0201.06
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Exactly what I said. It just feels weird to ignore that whole period of the companies existence because they were using the NWA title. Couldn't they have figured out some way to be able to make all those other guys who were the company's champions for that 6 year period a part of the TNA Championship lineage? It mostly feels like a way to ignore Jeff Jarrett's role in the history of the company.


Amen to this.

I'm not as annoyed when they specify "TNA" Championship, although the constant reiterations about Kurt being the "first" champion get grating.

I was super frustrated a couple of years ago when they constantly referred to Roode as "the longest reigning Champion in TNA history". I thought that was even worse, because while Kurt was the first "TNA Champion" (despite the prior history that statement ignores), Roode was no where close to being the longest reigning champion in TNA history. Jarrett's heavyweight title reigns were with another title, but they were certainly part of TNA history.
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#13 Posted on 23.3.15 1145.54
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I thought something seemed way off about Kurt Angle being the first TNA champion, since he was still wrestling Lesnar when Impact first started on the 'weekly PPV' basis. I'm pretty sure the first actual title holder was actually Jeff Jarrett, even if they were using the NWA belt at the time. I'm guessing TNA must have split off from the NWA awhile back, like ECW did, and created their own title.

Still, I don't like that they seem to be trying to completely ignore their own early days. Yeah, it was a pain seeing JJ sit on the title as much as he did, especially since he owned the company, but they still put on some crazy awesome matches and that's where they developed their 6-sided ring style and the X Division. They should at least be willing to acknowledge that they used to be part of NWA and used their belt, even if the title isn't the same as the one Angle is holding now.
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#14 Posted on 23.3.15 2057.50
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    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    I thought something seemed way off about Kurt Angle being the first TNA champion, since he was still wrestling Lesnar when Impact first started on the 'weekly PPV' basis. I'm pretty sure the first actual title holder was actually Jeff Jarrett, even if they were using the NWA belt at the time.


Nope. It was Ken Shamrock. He won the vacant title in a gauntlet match on the first weekly TNA PPV. Jarrett was the third titleholder, after Shamrock and Ron Killings.
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#15 Posted on 24.3.15 0002.01
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Fair enough, I wasn't there for the very beginning but I know there were plenty of title holders in TNA wrestling years before Angle even considered jumping over from the WWE. So it was Shamrock, R-Truth (as he goes by now), and then Jarrett. It just seemed like he was always the one squatting on it, so it seemed reasonable to figure he'd give the belt to himself first. Though maybe he thought that was a bit too obvious of an ego stroke; 3rd champion looks less douchy. Somewhat. It's Jarrett, 'less douchy' is about the best he can manage.
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