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|  #1 Posted on 10.2.15 1834.00
Reposted on: 10.2.22 1836.53 | Someone really didn't want to cover another election cycle!
This was apparently announced on tonight's Daily Show taping. It'll air in a few hours. Comedy central confirmed:
"Later this year" is pretty vague. Their season ends in the summer and they usually take a lot of time off, so that would be the logical place. Stewart might have actually decided this a while ago - he wouldn't want overshadow Colbert's own departure or Wilmore starting up as his replacement (which has been just OK and would not be missed.) OTOH, it can't have been that long or he and Comedy Central would've worked harder to keep John Oliver around. It's going to be hard for anyone to take over that seat but the audience would've been okay with Oliver.
I understand why Comedy Central would want to keep the show going, but that's going to be a hard role. Replacing Letterman is a much bigger stage, but the Daily Show is likely more important to it's network than Late Night is to CBS. Comedy Central is deeper than it used to be but Stewart and Colbert and South Park were the tentpoles and now two of them are gone.
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| #2 Posted on 10.2.15 1846.09
Reposted on: 10.2.22 1846.58 | Wow Comedy Central dropped the ball. They had their chance to set up a clear line of succession with Jon's absense two years ago, and they screwed it up by building up Oliver just to let him go. I suppose they couldn't have known that Stewart AND Colbert would be gone so soon, but they had to know the clock was ticking.
That said, this isn't the first time the Daily Show lost its host. That said, Stewart trumps Kilborn and took the show into realms unimaginable 16 years ago. The Daily Show can survive and will need to rebuild in the image of its host. But where Stewart and Colbert turned that hour into must-watch satire, we could well be headed into a period of irrelevance. Which is fine, because this is comedy central, so let them rebuild and make jokes. What's sad is that with Stewart and Colbert gone from our nightly line-up, the strongest voice holding anyone's feet to the fire is Oliver, and he's only on once a week.
Its REALLY going to be interesting seeing who they get to replace Stewart, though.
As for Wilmore, The Nightly Show is okay, but it needs time to grow. Are they still doing Keep It 100 each night? That should maybe be a weekly segment at best, like Colbert's "The Word."
The other question out of all this is if this affects @midnight, if they are even at all reliant on their lead-in or not at this point. I'd have to think they've got their fanbase at this point and are in more of a position to carry the night rather than be carried by the other shows.
Still, wow. | Leroy
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| #3 Posted on 10.2.15 1921.26
Reposted on: 10.2.22 1924.02 | I think I should be more surprised about this than I am. Maybe it's all of the chaos around the 11pm shows (and the fact that I've finally reached a point in my life in which 11pm weeknights is too late for me), but I'm just not that stunned at the news.
Originally posted by EddieBurkett
They had their chance to set up a clear line of succession with Jon's absense two years ago, and they screwed it up by building up Oliver just to let him go.
I think Oliver was good as a guest host, but I think he's better at his own show. I'm sure everyone is happier all around.
Originally posted by EddieBurkett
The other question out of all this is if this affects @midnight, if they are even at all reliant on their lead-in or not at this point.
And I think Chris Hardwick would be a GREAT choice to replace Jon Stewart at 11pm - assuming he'd want to do it. He's really come into his own as both an interviewed and a show host. @midnight and Talking Dead are two drastically different shows and he's really good at both of them - and I'd think he'd be great at making The Daily Show (or whatever comes next) his own show.
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| #4 Posted on 10.2.15 2019.03
Reposted on: 10.2.22 2028.10 | Originally posted by Leroy
And I think Chris Hardwick would be a GREAT choice to replace Jon Stewart
As someone who's become a fan of the Nerdist podcast over the last two years, I don't disagree, but I think the topics he'd want to discuss would basically turn the show into @midnight with an interview segment, which might be good, but why burn down @midnight?
EDIT: UNLESS THIS WAS THE PLAN OF SUCCESSION ALL ALONG...
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|  #5 Posted on 10.2.15 2340.39
Reposted on: 10.2.22 2340.41 | Hardwick wouldn't be a good fit since the Daily Show's brand is now solidly "satire of news/politics," and veering into more of a basic pop culture or game show direction essentially loses the entire audience.
It's possible Comedy Central would seek to re-align what The Daily Show is all about given that the political satire angle was so closely aligned with Stewart himself and it's very difficult to keep that going with just anyone. That said, CC also surely doesn't want to lose the Daily Show's cultural cache of influencing or making the news --- like, you're not going to book President Obama as a guest on @Midnight, for instance.
I do agree that Comedy Central really screwed up by not having Oliver under contract for SOMETHING when they had him guest-host the show when Stewart was off directing 'Rosewater.' Losing both Stewart and Colbert within a year's time is a devastating blow, and now CC is left with only a Larry Wilmore Nightly Show that is very much still finding its voice. | Texas Kelly
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| #6 Posted on 11.2.15 0020.40
Reposted on: 11.2.22 0022.47 | While it's a great loss for us and Comedy Central, I'm not as worried for the Daily Show as I was when Colbert left. Whoever they insert in there, the format and the writing staff will likely remain the same, and while it'll be awkward at first people will adjust in the long run (and that's the big difference: Jon adjusts to the news cycle, while Colbert basically pounded the cycle into submission). If I were Jon, I would've stuck it out through 2016 while Larry Wilmore found his voice and so we could get one more election with coverage of consistent quality, but I can understand why he'd rather step aside now and let 2016 build up the new person, especially since it's been obvious for a while now that he wants to try other creative things. It's just gonna suck for Larry if CC wants him to be the ratings driver after Jon, because I don't think the format of Larry's show will ever allow for that.
I don't think that happens though. My feelings: Larry ain't moving, Hardwick ain't moving (completely wrong type of material for his sensibilities), and the Daily Show will remain the tentpole at 11. Oliver MIGHT have considered the gig if it were a year ago, but after the creative freedom he got from HBO, he ain't coming back, because there's no way CC will let him criticize corporations on the same level he can now. Only question is whether CC goes in-house or outside for Jon's replacement, and right now I'd bet on the former, probably Jason Jones.
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| #7 Posted on 11.2.15 0144.58
Reposted on: 11.2.22 0146.37 | | Brian Williams | Wpob
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| #8 Posted on 11.2.15 0232.53
Reposted on: 11.2.22 0235.57 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
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| #9 Posted on 11.2.15 0701.12
Reposted on: 11.2.22 0701.25 | I think the thing Hardwick does so well is engage his audience in unique ways. His shows really have an appearance of 'interactivity', and in this current media climate I think that perspective is fairly important. Even Fallon seems to have some sense that The Tonight Show can't be for the blue hairs anymore if it's going to survive.
Part of my worry is that The Daily Show will end up becoming The Daily Show with Jon Stewart with [INSERT HOSTNAME HERE]. So much of that "cultural cache" was directly tied to Stewart's sensibilities as a host and a spokesperson for the show that it's going to be hard for any host to have a presence outside Stewart's shadow - much less one that tries to carry on where Stewart will leave off.
But in spite of the fact that I think Hardwick has a similar sensibility (maybe better) in regards to his 'brand' as a host, he might not be the right fit - there very well could be someone else out there 'under the radar' that would nicely plugin and yet still have their own identity as a host.
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