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|  #2 Posted on 29.10.14 0641.13
Reposted on: 29.10.21 0643.01 | I have a thought, this sucks. You can't argue with 1 and 2. You can make an argument from 3 to 11 though.
Lets start off with Ole Miss who lost to a sorry LSU being 4. They beat Alabama to which I say so what. They did it at home and lucked out with the INT at the end. Auburn almost lost to South Carolina who started this overrated SEC ranking. When South Carolina went down to Texas AM, people thought Texas AM was good and moved Miss. State up the rankings. Then we find out Texas AM sucks, but Miss. State keeps their number one spot. Auburn lost by double digits to Miss. State. Oregon lost by double digits to an unranked Arizona team at home. TCU got screwed at Baylor, so they should be higher. Michigan State may be the best all around team in college football, but they got torched by Oregon, just torched. Kansas State, really? really? Also, if anyone thinks beating Oklahoma is a big deal, they have missed the last 8 years of college football.
Finally, my Irish look to beat FSU, get a crap call and ultimately lose. So, of course, the only team to play the former national champs at their place and play them to the wire should be at the middle of the pack. As of now, the fix is somewhat in. This council of supposedly 13, now 12 has set up the SEC to get at least two teams in. Yes, they will have to play one another, but it seems like even losing won't move you down that far. And that is what matters now is positioning. Even if Miss State loses to Bama, they will probably drop to four while Bama takes their place.
FSU has to go undefeated at this point. Every non-SEC team has to win out which is almost impossible. I am still thinking they will find a way to justify a two lose SEC team in there over a Notre Dame or TCU or Oregon if those teams have one lose. It amazes me who everyone shits on the NCAA and polling to get something better. Supposedly this better, I just don't see how. Also super fan Condi doesn't need to be part of this nor any active Athletic Directors.
(edited by lotjx on 29.10.14 0643) | wmatistic
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| #3 Posted on 29.10.14 1425.53
Reposted on: 29.10.21 1429.01 | Actually I think they did a pretty good job. Yes, the SEC is overrated but no I don't buy the tinfoil of them trying to get multiple SEC teams in.
Also, the only people I've seen who still think it was a "crap call" are Notre Dame fans. Most people know it was correct, even if they don't like it. Can't believe how long Kelly whined about that after the fact.
But either way, how much credit should that get Notre Dame? Do we know if FSU is really all that impressive this year? They're winning, but barely. ND lost the game and really doesn't have an impressive win on it's record at this point.
The committee clearly gave more credit to who you beat than who you lost to. Puts ND in a tough spot. They have to hope Arizona State keeps winning to give them at least a shot at one quality victory, cause the rest of their schedule does them no favors.
All that said, it's really early to be worried about this. Many of the top ten will suffer at least one loss before it's over.
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| #4 Posted on 29.10.14 1720.35
Reposted on: 29.10.21 1724.13 | As a Mississippi State Fan (long suffering) it's nice to see this ranking. I'm afraid it won't last though, since we play at Bama in a few weeks. But, it's a nice ride to be on. Certainly something I never expected. I'm sure in coming weeks I'll be brought down to earth, but it's fun to fantasize about a possible Egg Bowl actually meaning something other than state bragging rights this year.
As for Notre Dame fans, join a conference, play a conference schedule, then come back and talk about which conference is overrated. Other than FSU, it's not exactly a barn burner of a schedule. They've only played one other team with a winning record (I'm not counting Rice and their community college schedule) and they squeaked out that win VS Stanford.
Syracuse Orange
3-5, 5th in Atlantic Division
North Carolina Tar Heels
4-4, 3rd in Coastal Division
Stanford Cardinal
5-3, 2nd in North Division
Purdue Boilermakers
3-5, 6th in West
Rice Owls
4-3, 2nd in West
Michigan Wolverines
3-5, 6th in East | lotjx
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| #5 Posted on 29.10.14 1822.36
Reposted on: 29.10.21 1823.37 | Originally posted by StaggerLee
As a Mississippi State Fan (long suffering) it's nice to see this ranking. I'm afraid it won't last though, since we play at Bama in a few weeks. But, it's a nice ride to be on. Certainly something I never expected. I'm sure in coming weeks I'll be brought down to earth, but it's fun to fantasize about a possible Egg Bowl actually meaning something other than state bragging rights this year.
As for Notre Dame fans, join a conference, play a conference schedule, then come back and talk about which conference is overrated. Other than FSU, it's not exactly a barn burner of a schedule. They've only played one other team with a winning record (I'm not counting Rice and their community college schedule) and they squeaked out that win VS Stanford.
Syracuse Orange
3-5, 5th in Atlantic Division
North Carolina Tar Heels
4-4, 3rd in Coastal Division
Stanford Cardinal
5-3, 2nd in North Division
Purdue Boilermakers
3-5, 6th in West
Rice Owls
4-3, 2nd in West
Michigan Wolverines
3-5, 6th in East
They are already in the ACC to some degree and lets be honest, no one knows how good the SEC is, because they barely play outside their own conference. Michigan, USC, FSU and Standford are big boy programs while SEC East is the real community college group. The West is feeding on them and when they start playing each other, I am sure the apologist will say how tough it was when it really wasn't. No one should be afraid of anyone in the SEC, but again its not like the SEC minus that God awful Florida, none of them are going to USC or FSU or even Michigan State at this time of year.
And for all the big boy Conference talk, the Big Ten and ACC are not exactly burning up the NCAA. Michigan State got smoked by Oregon and FSU needed help to beat Notre Dame. If Stanford beats Oregon will that move Notre Dame? Who knows, because this idea of how or who you lose to doesn't count is ridiculous.
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| #6 Posted on 31.10.14 1014.28
Reposted on: 31.10.21 1016.18 | Originally posted by lotjx
Who knows, because this idea of how or who you lose to doesn't count is ridiculous.
No one said it doesn't count, only that you get more credit for winning than losing. Seems logical to me.
Calling Michigan a "big boy" program was amusing though. And I actually like the Wolverines, but I had to giggle.
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| #7 Posted on 31.10.14 1347.42
Reposted on: 31.10.21 1347.46 | My thoughts are that these non-final rankings just do not matter. All these SEC teams will play each other and knock each out of this week's top ten.
Could you imagine if the basketball selection committee met for 8 weeks and published a top 25 for each region? Those non-final rankings would not matter either. | | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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