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#21 Posted on 5.5.14 1055.54
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    Originally posted by KJames199
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
      Would have been fine with Kane/Bryan if that was the end of the feud
    According to Meltzer on the Observer Radio review of the show:

    Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
    Vince wants Bryan defending against Batista at Payback. However, Batista doesn't want to stick around - he's unhappy that his promised Mania title win didn't happen and the money isn't as good as he expected. He was planning on being done in June anyway (at least temporarily, to promote Guardians of the Galaxy), so he's finishing up on TV this week unless they can talk him into staying. They had Batista lose the fall last night because there's no deal in place for him to stay on after this week.

    Kane sitting up after the match was to set up a Buried Alive rematch for Payback if they can't convince Batista to hang around for that show.

    Not sure the spoiler tags were necessary since Meltzer talk doesn't necessarily mean anything, but better to be safe than sorry.


I'm not sure if it was his idea or if this was a rumor that was already floating around but Amos Cochran predicted in the Predictions thread that Evolution would win with help from Sheamus. If Batista really is leaving then I think it would be a great idea to slot Sheamus into Batista's spot. Sheamus fits Batista's role, Cesaro/Barrett are taking the spot of face brawler now and it makes since for Evolution to evolve and get younger.
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#22 Posted on 5.5.14 1134.02
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    Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
    Just curious: did anyone NOT watch this ppv/special event on the Network?

As in on traditional PPV? Or as in subscribing to the Network and not watching?

I was in the latter category. I was out all day and didn't get home until the show was half over. Even then, I didn't get a chance to sit down and turn it on until it was almost over. Saw the last few minutes of the main event and left it on for the post-show weirdness.

It's a strange feeling to tune in to a "PPV" that late. It made it feel like Raw.

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#23 Posted on 5.5.14 1141.58
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    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
      Just curious: did anyone NOT watch this ppv/special event on the Network?

    As in on traditional PPV? Or as in subscribing to the Network and not watching?

    I was in the latter category. I was out all day and didn't get home until the show was half over. Even then, I didn't get a chance to sit down and turn it on until it was almost over. Saw the last few minutes of the main event and left it on for the post-show weirdness.

    It's a strange feeling to tune in to a "PPV" that late. It made it feel like Raw.



Yeha, traditional ppv. I had heard Dish wasn't carrying it, any others?
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#24 Posted on 5.5.14 1152.19
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DirecTV and Dish dropped WWE PPVs. Only the cable company still carries it. Cole and buddies were making fun of the satellite companies for "missing out."
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#25 Posted on 5.5.14 1157.42
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#26 Posted on 5.5.14 1214.49
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2014 WWE with the Wellness program... everytime someone went for a headshot with a weapon, I knew it would miss or get reversed. I was stunned that Bryan hit Kane in the head with the tire iron, but I guess it was rubber.
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#27 Posted on 5.5.14 1226.49
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Why do they insist on adding "modified" every time they talk about the Scorpion Crosslock? It's not like a Scorpion Crosslock is that common a move. I hadn't even heard of it before Regal used the name. Just call it the Scorpion Crosslock.

(Or is this some PG thing where they can't say Deathlock?)
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#28 Posted on 5.5.14 1238.08
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    According to Meltzer on the Observer Radio review of the show:

    Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
    Vince wants Bryan defending against Batista at Payback. However, Batista doesn't want to stick around - he's unhappy that his promised Mania title win didn't happen and the money isn't as good as he expected. He was planning on being done in June anyway (at least temporarily, to promote Guardians of the Galaxy), so he's finishing up on TV this week unless they can talk him into staying. They had Batista lose the fall last night because there's no deal in place for him to stay on after this week.

    Kane sitting up after the match was to set up a Buried Alive rematch for Payback if they can't convince Batista to hang around for that show.

    Not sure the spoiler tags were necessary since Meltzer talk doesn't necessarily mean anything, but better to be safe than sorry.


I could be wrong on this, but the only spoilers in wrestling are shows that are anything that has happened that is pre-taped being talked about before it airs. Rumors and speculation aren't spoilers. Especially if the match is likely not to happen like in the report above. Kind of an anti-spoiler, really.

I suppose "Daniel Bryan is definitely losing the title at Payback" could be considered a spoiler if it's an absolute certainty it's going to happen, but even then, nothing is for sure until it airs on live TV. Things change. Vince has a dream and changes his mind, people get injured, people walk out, etc. It's nearly impossible to spoil live TV.


They should have done the reverse and had Bryan/Batista at Extreme Rules (they had the more current issue with each other) and Bryan/Kane at Payback, but I guess that would have gotten in the way of HHH's match. I'd be okay with another Bryan/Sheamus feud. That match, like Bryan/Kane, already has a backstory. Even if a lot of Bryan's opponents aren't mega superstars, he still has a lot of unresolved issues with a lot of opponents (Kane, Batista, Bray Wyatt, John Cena) that could last through the summer.


I wasn't really that enthralled with this PPV. The 6-man and Bryan/Kane were the only matches I was really into. Didn't really dig the Cena/Wyatt cage match, but at least the right person went over here.

The 6-man was such fun out of the ring brawling that was reminiscent of the Benoit/Sullivan matches back in the day. It did a great job getting everyone in the Shield over big time. I'd rather see more of this and less of Bryan/Kane.

Still, Bryan/Kane was entertaining for what it was. A lot of the out of the ring brawling didn't really go anywhere except the forklift spot, but I really liked the finish and at least Kane did a good job for Bryan. If they do another Bryan/Kane match, I hope they mix it up somehow. I'd be okay with a triple threat also involving Sheamus or HHH or someone.

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#29 Posted on 5.5.14 1259.05
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    The Ned time your IWC friends bicuspid about HHH pushing his friends and ignoring great talent, show them this match and tell them to STFU. They made SHIELD look like supermen, and that wouldn't happen if he was "holding talent down".

    That dive off the guard rail, while not New Jack life threatening, was pretty bad ass, and they did a great uh of not showing Rollins getting into place borer the leap,

    Bryan's rubber tire iron still isn't as bad as Scott Steiners foam 2x4, so I will let it slide.

I can't believe that you posted this twice WITH all the crazy autocorrections intact.

(I better say something about the PPV while I'm here....I agree with all the folks saying it was a one match show. WeeLC probably should have been on the main card.)
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#30 Posted on 5.5.14 1443.20
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Why does it seem like autocorrect causes more mistakes than it fixes?
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#31 Posted on 5.5.14 1543.24
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Fan vid of Rollins jump taken from right next to him:

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#32 Posted on 5.5.14 1652.14
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Am I the only one that sees Rusev/Lana turning into Mero/Sable down the road?

This PPV seems fine by paying for it through The Network, but if you paid for it the old way wouldn't you feel a little short changed? I'm just wondering if the bar lowering might not go as noticed since we are getting a card full if matches which makes it better than Raw. Granted the sample size isn't there yet, but it was a fear going in, but it might be not as big a deal because of price point.
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#33 Posted on 5.5.14 1654.29
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Streaming on my PS3 much smoother than WM XXX, which was great.

They kinda blew the Kane/Bryan Table spot when the camera caught both stage hands running into position with fire extinguishers in hand before Kane had even grabbed the gas can.

I enjoyed the Main Event, the Six Man tag, and even the Cena/Wyatt match. Although I kept getting this sinking feeling after he overpowered Harper and Rowan on the cage door that it was going to be SuperCena to the rescue again. The ending with the kid and that voice was great.

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#34 Posted on 5.5.14 1654.35
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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      The Ned time your IWC friends bicuspid about HHH pushing his friends and ignoring great talent, show them this match and tell them to STFU. They made SHIELD look like supermen, and that wouldn't happen if he was "holding talent down".

      That dive off the guard rail, while not New Jack life threatening, was pretty bad ass, and they did a great uh of not showing Rollins getting into place borer the leap,

      Bryan's rubber tire iron still isn't as bad as Scott Steiners foam 2x4, so I will let it slide.

    I can't believe that you posted this twice WITH all the crazy autocorrections intact.

    (I better say something about the PPV while I'm here....I agree with all the folks saying it was a one match show. WeeLC probably should have been on the main card.)


Sorry Boss! Didn't realize it had double posted.
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#35 Posted on 5.5.14 1809.18
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    This PPV seems fine by paying for it through The Network, but if you paid for it the old way wouldn't you feel a little short changed?


Shield/Evolution was really really good, but I can't imagine being happy had I paid $60 for this show (and I wouldn't have to done it to begin with.)
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#36 Posted on 5.5.14 1841.59
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So if all the Wyatts are in the ring, who are we supposed to believe is messing with the lights and putting DIT! on the Tron - the kid?
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#37 Posted on 5.5.14 1914.57
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    Originally posted by dwaters
    So if all the Wyatts are in the ring, who are we supposed to believe is messing with the lights and putting DIT! on the Tron - the kid?


Sister Abigail.

Rowan climbing up the cage and putting his head between Cena's legs and just continuing to climbing with Cena on his shoulders was the highlight of that match for me.

I'm fine with Bryan vs Kane going one more month. Especially if the rumors about Kane retiring are true, going out at the hands of Bryan would be a nice touch, considering his part in Bryan's soaring popularity to begin with.

That also gives them time to do the Cena/Wyatt rubber match and move on to Wyatt vs Bryan. I have no idea if that's actually a plan, but seeing as how Wyatt beat Bryan at the Royal Rumble, I would think he'd be in line for a title shot.
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#38 Posted on 5.5.14 2057.40
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I was expecting to see a spot in the cage match where Cena climbed out, but Harper and Rowan would grab him off the side of the cage, then carry him around and shove him back in through the door.
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#39 Posted on 5.5.14 2057.53
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    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Why do they insist on adding "modified" every time they talk about the Scorpion Crosslock? It's not like a Scorpion Crosslock is that common a move. I hadn't even heard of it before Regal used the name. Just call it the Scorpion Crosslock.

    (Or is this some PG thing where they can't say Deathlock?)


The original crosslock:
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Instead of how Paige underhooks and grabs her locks her own hands, Nakano holds each arm separately. That's the "modified" part of it for Paige.
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#40 Posted on 7.5.14 1009.08
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I went the whole weekend setting things up so I could catch the show live on the Network, including early dinner for the house.. only to realize about 3 hours before it started that I didn't have to miss the Cub game on Sunday Night Baseball, since I could watch Extreme Rules whenever I damn well pleased.

In my case, that meant watching the archived show up through the Shield match, and picking up the rest yesterday. (And soon, Raw via DVR.) Pretty much all I do is have Raw on in the background to keep up with the storylines, and have the Network for the 'specials'. At this price, it works for me, but I'm not sure there's much more I'd be willing to pay if they're going build to 3 or 4 'big' shows a year, with the rest of them marking the time. (I'm okay with $9.99 if that's the plan - so long as we get fun, extended matches. I think this show generally cleared that bar.)

- - - - - - - - - - -

Heyman coming out at the start of the show and pointing out the legacy of ECW as adopted by WWE in "Extreme Rules" only reminded me how tame WWE 'extreme' is. We had a WH Championship "Extreme Rules" (Anything goes) match where the rules were indistinguishable from the Shield/Evolution match, or for that matter the Three Way Dance. For extreme spots, we had a few kendo sticks, the one garbage can, Rollins' New Jack dive (nice pick up, Stagger) and the flaming table.

I never criticize when the performers protect themselves, so a rubber tire iron, or using a hand to cushion a head bump doesn't bother me, and I actually admire when the wrestlers and production crew conspire to make a totally safe spot look devastating. But that flimsy trash can looked legit dangerous when it split open before the 5-star. Stone Cold wrecked a brand new Corvette, Bryan gets a "cash for clunkers" special that really looked the part of a stunt car.

I thought it was funny how the fire extinguisher guys were ON IT when Kane hit the flaming table (note that he mostly skipped over the spot he was going through while spreading the flammable liquid of choice).. but those 'firemen' looked to me like they were herding Kane back into the ring for the finish. I hope the feud ends with Bryan 'inadvertently' pulling the mask off Kane with a YESlock, revealing his baldness and vulnerability like happened with Luke and Vader (and no, I don't mean Harper and Leon White).

Cena. For a guy who takes his share of losses, they sure book him like the nearest thing to Undertaker in terms of protecting him - only without the mystical remoteness that marked 'Taker after he switched back from BikerTaker. Absolutely agree that there were far too many visual 'wins' to ultimately help establish Wyatt. Cena, who laughs EVERYTHING off.. who beat every member of the Wyatt family two or three times each while rising above plausibility... getting stopped in his tracks by one kid with a gimmicked voice? Not buying it.

I don't listen to the SAP commentary, but I continue to get a kick out of Ricardo Rodriguez's quest to get wrestlers to realize that there are other announce tables besides his that could be wrecked.
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