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| #1 Posted on 31.8.13 1003.14 Reposted on: 31.8.20 1004.26 | So the Patriots released Tim Tebow this morning.
I was kinda hoping he'd make it just because he's a good story. As someone who is not a fanatical football fan but watches casually, I need it explained to me how bad he is that no one wants him in the NFL. Looking at it on paper, it seems like all he's done is succeed, but everywhere I turn, I hear, "Oh, he's terrible". So I'm scratching my head. Promote this thread! |  | Guru Zim
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| #2 Posted on 31.8.13 1007.37 Reposted on: 31.8.20 1009.16 | Don't worry, I have a feeling you'll be watching him in the CFL soon enough, if he doesn't land on a team. | hansen9j
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| #3 Posted on 31.8.13 1011.05 Reposted on: 31.8.20 1011.54 | Truly this will go down in the annals of Patriot veteran signings with Joseph Addai, Anthony Gonzalez, and Visanthe Shiancoe.
Originally posted by Guru Zim Don't worry, I have a feeling you'll be watching him in the CFL soon enough, if he doesn't land on a team.
Hahaha, no. | wannaberockstar
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| #4 Posted on 31.8.13 1026.14 Reposted on: 31.8.20 1026.43 | I don't really care about football but I liked Tim Tebow because it was nice to hear about a sports star that wasn't an ego-driven, self-serving you-know-what.
A shame that in a sea of the worst kinds of people there's no room for ONE positive role-model. | BigDaddyLoco
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| #5 Posted on 31.8.13 1426.57 Reposted on: 31.8.20 1427.54 | He was pretty awful, you wonder how a QB that has been around for that long can be so wild with his throws and so slow with his reads. I am surprised they only tried him at QB. They did give him a fair shot, and I did stick around and watch the 4th quarters of preseason games just to watch him play. I wanted him to make the team just because the Patriots need somebody that is just a good guy, his teammates seemed to really like him, and I just liked having him around.
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| #6 Posted on 1.9.13 0227.23 Reposted on: 1.9.20 0229.01 | Originally posted by The Goon So the Patriots released Tim Tebow this morning.
I was kinda hoping he'd make it just because he's a good story. As someone who is not a fanatical football fan but watches casually, I need it explained to me how bad he is that no one wants him in the NFL. Looking at it on paper, it seems like all he's done is succeed, but everywhere I turn, I hear, "Oh, he's terrible". So I'm scratching my head.
More than "all he's done is succeed," it's "he has played on successful teams." He led Florida to a memorable BCS title-winning season, yes (Chris Leak was the quarterback for the other, a fact many seem to forget), and I don't think anyone says he wasn't a great college player. But in Denver that team won in spite of him, not the other way around. He would play 55 minutes of mediocre football, but the Denver defense would hold the opponents to within striking distance where all Tebow would have to do was be part of one good play in the whole game. Even his famous overtime touchdown toss in the playoffs was a bad throw - watch it here. He threw it behind Demaryius Thomas and over his head, but Thomas made an impressive catch and managed to outrun the defensive backs on his ass.
Being unable to take playing time from Mark Sanchez, the worst starting quarterback in the NFL, can't be called a success. Being unable to supplant Ryan Mallet as a backup quarterback can't be called a success. He has no accuracy, little apparent understanding of NFL defenses, and I'm not being hyperbolic at all when I say that I see guys throwing a football in the park with a tighter spiral than Tebow with alarming regularity. His career is littered with failures.
Originally posted by wannaberockstar I don't really care about football but I liked Tim Tebow because it was nice to hear about a sports star that wasn't an ego-driven, self-serving you-know-what.
A shame that in a sea of the worst kinds of people there's no room for ONE positive role-model.
So are you saying Tim Tebow is the ONLY professional athlete who is a positive role model? Because that's exactly what you've typed.
What makes Tim Tebow a positive role model that no other professional athlete can live up to? Where has Tim Tebow made any effort to deflect the cartoonish circus his idolizers bring with him everywhere he goes? Assuming you can't produce such a link, how does his failure to do so fit into your "not ego-driven" narrative?
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| #7 Posted on 1.9.13 0950.23 Reposted on: 1.9.20 0953.44 | I figured they'd find someplace for him, even on special teams.
Everyone says he's horrible, yet teams keep picking him up, so there's got to be something they see. | TheBucsFan
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| #8 Posted on 1.9.13 1001.13 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1001.29 | Originally posted by dwaters I figured they'd find someplace for him, even on special teams.
Everyone says he's horrible, yet teams keep picking him up, so there's got to be something they see.
Using this same logic, teams keep dumping him, so they must realize he's not worth having around. Or, put another way, Tom Brady has only ever been picked up by one team, don't other NFL squads see any value in him?!? | lotjx
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| #9 Posted on 1.9.13 1036.27 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1037.13 | If Jacksonville is 0-3, he is coming back. For now, Tebow Time is done. | geemoney
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| #10 Posted on 1.9.13 1124.56 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1126.19 | Originally posted by lotjx If Jacksonville is 0-3, he is coming back. For now, Tebow Time is done.
He doesn't fit the new regime in Jacksonville. Their GM pretty much put an end to the Tebow speculation at his opening press conference when he said he wouldn't pick Tebow up "even if he's released" (this was when he was still with NYJ). The press even made him repeat that phrase, and he did. | Lexus
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| #11 Posted on 1.9.13 1133.14 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1133.37 | The thing I don't get is the popular argument everywhere seems to be "he's a natural football player" but he still isn't taking snaps anywhere but quarterback.
Hell, throw him in as a fullback in short yardage situations, which would also keep defenses on their toes for some horrible play action flea flicker. | BigDaddyLoco
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| #12 Posted on 1.9.13 1701.36 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1702.55 | If I am a fan of a team going nowhere I would be all in on Tebow. It was fun sending texts saying It's Tebow Time in the 4th quarter just to get reactions. Then you'd watch him get pummeled on three straight downs and wonder wtf. I never got it until he joined the Pats, but it is sort of like rooting for your own kid or maybe like getting excited when the 12th man comes into an NBA game. For some reason you want him to do something so he doesn't embarrass himself. It is a sideshow, but its not a terrible ride, I just wouldn't want to pin the hopes of a legit team on him if that makes any sense. | DrewDewce
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| #13 Posted on 1.9.13 1741.33 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1743.01 | Originally posted by Lexus The thing I don't get is the popular argument everywhere seems to be "he's a natural football player" but he still isn't taking snaps anywhere but quarterback.
Hell, throw him in as a fullback in short yardage situations, which would also keep defenses on their toes for some horrible play action flea flicker.
In theory you are absolutely correct, in actuality it would be a NIGHTMARE for any team for a variety of reasons. The press that covers the team would immediately speculate and help fuel fire as to why said team felt the need to pick him up, which would lead to hurting the confidence of whomever said teams starting QB is even if Tebow wasn't brought in as a QB per se. Even a proven "winner" can cause problems to a team's psyche by his mere presence and distraction among them.
Seems like a too good to be true nice kid but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my Seahawks even as team chaplain. | thecubsfan
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| #14 Posted on 1.9.13 1811.35 Reposted on: 1.9.20 1812.05 | Originally posted by Lexus The thing I don't get is the popular argument everywhere seems to be "he's a natural football player" but he still isn't taking snaps anywhere but quarterback.
Only he knows what he really wants, but the sense I get from Tebow's comments and actions is that he doesn't want to be the multi position utility player everyone envisions for him. He indicated that in his farewell to the Patriots tweets
I will remain in relentless pursuit of continuing my lifelong dream of being an NFL quarterback.
Didn't say being in the NFL, said being an NFL quarterback.
One you cease being a QB, it's tough to get back to being that one, so he may be super reluctant to give it up. He wouldn't be the first QB with a questionable future to feel the same way - Senaca Wallace is another one I can think of - and there's plenty of college QBs who get moved to other positions in the NFL and never make it there either. | XPacArmy
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| #15 Posted on 1.9.13 2349.43 Reposted on: 1.9.20 2351.36 | How much money would Vince be throwing at him right now if the XFL was around? | Kevintripod
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| #16 Posted on 2.9.13 1643.56 Reposted on: 2.9.20 1645.56 | Would the CFL even want Tim Tebow?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--tim-tebow-s-cfl-pros-cons-sound-familiar-%E2%80%93---if-you-can-t-make-all-the-throws--you-can-t-play-in-this-league--182458641.html
Belichick refuses to rule out Tebow comeback
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/belichick-refuses-rule-tebow-comeback-164807129--nfl.html
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