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|  #1 Posted on 2.8.12 0947.25
Reposted on: 2.8.19 0948.00 | Confirmed by producer Bryan Singer. (badassdigest.com)
I think Days of Future Past is the second best X-Men title from the 80s after X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills.
I also think this is exciting but kind of weird news. I linked to Devin Faraci on Bad Ass Digest because he raised the same questions I did regarding Singer's ideas about expanding the X movie universe and "connectivity between the films". I mean, First Class contradicts the previous X-Men Trilogy and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Now there'll be some sort of alternate future X-Men movie story. I must say though, the X-producers have done a fine job keeping in the tradition of the comics and making the X-Men movie universe convoluted and contradictory.
Plus will Wolverine be in Days of Future Past?
I am glad Matthew Vaughn is back to direct. He did a bang up job with First Class and Kick Ass before that.
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| #2 Posted on 2.8.12 1003.46
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1005.57 | No Wolverine in a Days of Future Past movie is like having no Brando in Godfather. Jackman has to be in this flick if anything, I see this as a way to either bring the contradictions together or just reboot the entire thing with the new cast. Personally, I think if they just wipe out X-Men 3, I'd be ok with that.
Hopefully, it won't feel like they are shoving the X-Men mythos at the end like First Class did. There was no need for the teams to split on the beach. As well as Charles begin paralyzed. They could have gotten another film out of the break up of the Xavier/Magento bromance. | John Orquiola
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| #3 Posted on 2.8.12 1030.05
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1031.10 | Originally posted by lotjx
No Wolverine in a Days of Future Past movie is like having no Brando in Godfather. Jackman has to be in this flick
My go-to analogy is always doing _____ without _____ is like doing Hamlet without Hamlet.
But I digress. The Wolverine (superherohype.com) just started shooting in Australia this week. I believe the plan for Days of Future Past was to shoot in the winter, to accommodate Jennifer Lawrence's schedule shooting The Hunger Games: Catching Fire in the fall so she could join Days of Future Past as Mystique. I have no idea whether Hugh Jackman will join Days of Future Past as Wolverine; scheduling-wise it would probably work. I hope Wolverine is in it; it would be weird if he wasn't. | samoflange
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| #4 Posted on 2.8.12 1043.37
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1043.44 | | This is great! With this and what is hopefully planned for Avengers 2, two of my favorite classic Marvel stories are going be in big-budget live action films! | John Orquiola
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| #5 Posted on 2.8.12 1050.00
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1051.44 | | By the way, if you read digital comics on a tablet or mobile device and you've never read Days of Future Past or just want it digitally, the whole saga is available for under $12 total. (comixology.com) | Tenken347
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| #6 Posted on 2.8.12 1220.49
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1221.42 | DoFP really is one of the early Wolverine stories, and it would be a lot like doing Hamlet without, well not Hamlet exactly, but maybe Gertrude or the ghost of Hamlet's father. You could do it, but it would be very weird and very different from what you'd normally expect.
I also hope they're a little less concerned with making everything fit into their extremely fractured movie continuity. Some of the stuff in First Class was painfully on the nose ("I sure do love the full use of my legs and my lush full head of hair - I hope I don't lose them in some sort of character-defining incident!"), and I'm not sure that it's really necessary in any way. The only real connection is Jackman. | oudom
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| #7 Posted on 2.8.12 1343.38
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1344.25 | | Wasn't the Danger Room sequence in X-Men the Last Stand a nudge/wink wink to Days of the Future Past? Especially with Colossus throwing Wolverine to the Sentinel. Wonder if they'll try to get Ellen Page back as Kitty Pryde. | lotjx
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| #8 Posted on 2.8.12 1412.34
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1413.24 | Originally posted by oudom
Wasn't the Danger Room sequence in X-Men the Last Stand a nudge/wink wink to Days of the Future Past? Especially with Colossus throwing Wolverine to the Sentinel. Wonder if they'll try to get Ellen Page back as Kitty Pryde.
I would expect that they will recast Kitty or make it maybe X-23 or random young female character that Logan is a Father figure too who goes into the future. If they go into the future at all. Could be a smoke screen for something else. How they handled Dark Phoenix was criminal. It will be interesting who they decide to bring back, isn't Magento and Pietro in the future, too? If anything I see them using the Brotherhood going after Senator Kelly as one of their major plot points. | Lise
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| #9 Posted on 2.8.12 1414.40
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1416.15 |
OMG does Comixology do this for every story arc or just specific "likely to be purchased right now" ones? THIS option (all in arc for a TPB price, also "author arcs" on titles) is what I really want when I'm looking at digital most of the time. I need a way to digitally filter titles (and have registered preferences for new titles by authors or characters I want to know about) the way my awesome comics store dudes used to. "We put this new title in your box cause you like this author. You might want to check out Uncanny X-men this month cause Gambit is involved, but it is written by (Unnamed Jackass) so we didn't actually pull it."
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| #10 Posted on 2.8.12 1701.37
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1703.47 | As someone who hasn't seen First Class but hated how badly the first series of X-Men movies were botched and ret-conned - is First Class any better?
I do like DOFP but I'm worried about it being another let down after the first three movies. | oudom
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| #11 Posted on 2.8.12 1720.34
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1723.37 | Originally posted by lotjx
Originally posted by oudom
Wasn't the Danger Room sequence in X-Men the Last Stand a nudge/wink wink to Days of the Future Past? Especially with Colossus throwing Wolverine to the Sentinel. Wonder if they'll try to get Ellen Page back as Kitty Pryde.
I would expect that they will recast Kitty or make it maybe X-23 or random young female character that Logan is a Father figure too who goes into the future. If they go into the future at all. Could be a smoke screen for something else. How they handled Dark Phoenix was criminal. It will be interesting who they decide to bring back, isn't Magento and Pietro in the future, too? If anything I see them using the Brotherhood going after Senator Kelly as one of their major plot points.
I have Marvel Digital Unlimited so I can check Uncanny X-Men 141 and 142. Pietro isn't in the future. Magneto is in the future, but is in a wheel chair and dies pretty fast as a diversion for the others to escape. I'm thinking they want to give Michael Fassbender a big role for this sequel, which I hope they do since he put on the traditional Magneto costume unlike Magneto in X-men, X2, and X-men The Last Stand. Mystique is also the main bad guy in the present time, which is convenient since they want to use Jennifer Lawrence's star power. FOX has the Fantastic Four so it would be pretty cool if they put Franklin Richards in the future but they probably won't. | John Orquiola
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| #12 Posted on 2.8.12 1909.33
Reposted on: 2.8.19 1909.40 | Originally posted by wannaberockstar
As someone who hasn't seen First Class but hated how badly the first series of X-Men movies were botched and ret-conned - is First Class any better?
I don't really understand: If you haven't seen First Class, what about the retcon do you hate? Are you actually saying you didn't like X-Men: The Last Stand? Because First Class is a fuckload better movie than that turd. First Class is a really good movie. Tell you what, go watch First Class and find out how good it is.
I rank the X-movies:
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: First Class (backofthehead.com)
X-Men
X-Men: The Last Stand (backofthehead.com)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (backofthehead.com)
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| #13 Posted on 2.8.12 2006.38
Reposted on: 2.8.19 2009.47 | X-Men 2 until Dark Knight was probably the best comic book movie of the 2000s. I would still put X-Men 1 ahead of First Class. First Class has a good beginning, a great middle and then crashes and burns in that final act. There was must way too much getting continuity matching to make it actually mean something. You have to remember if X-Men 1 failed we don't have the super hero craze that we do now.
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| #14 Posted on 2.8.12 2224.55
Reposted on: 2.8.19 2226.41 | pretty much agree that first class has a pretty bad third act.
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| #15 Posted on 2.8.12 2332.51
Reposted on: 2.8.19 2334.48 | I'd argue that First Class' third act is more spectacular and interesting and character-based than X-Men's bad third act, with the Machine That Turns Everyone Into Mutants Powered By Rogue's Powers and Magneto Doing Something Somehow, but to each his own. I'm a huge fan of the original X-Men regardless. It reinvented the language of the superhero movie and treated the X-Men as actual people with superpowers as opposed to superheroes who act like one dimensional people (which is the route X-Men: The Last Stand took). X-Men is a lynchpin film that ignited the high quality comic book movie genre as we know it today. The two scenes between Wolverine and Rogue, first in his truck, and then on the train, are two of my favorite and what I think are some of the best written, acted, and directed scenes between comic book characters in a superhero movie ever.
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| #16 Posted on 3.8.12 0859.51
Reposted on: 3.8.19 0901.09 | Sorry, I didn't mean First Class was. I meant the X1-3 movies. Those are the ones that gave me a sour taste so I was hesitant to see First Class.
I know that movies are always going to suck compared to the original comics (just like any adaption of a book) but did they at least get back on track in First Class?
Originally posted by John Orquiola
Originally posted by wannaberockstar
As someone who hasn't seen First Class but hated how badly the first series of X-Men movies were botched and ret-conned - is First Class any better?
I don't really understand: If you haven't seen First Class, what about the retcon do you hate? Are you actually saying you didn't like X-Men: The Last Stand? Because First Class is a fuckload better movie than that turd. First Class is a really good movie. Tell you what, go watch First Class and find out how good it is.
I rank the X-movies:
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: First Class (backofthehead.com)
X-Men
X-Men: The Last Stand (backofthehead.com)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (backofthehead.com)
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