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|  #1 Posted on 8.6.12 1158.18
Reposted on: 8.6.19 1159.01 | If Greece invades Poland in the next hour or so it will be in protest over that sketchy red card the ref just handed out, followed by the non-call of a would-be penalty in the box on Poland. So far Poland is better than I expected, but the games won't really get going until the next few days.
Here's the schedule for the group stage.
Group A
8 June 2012
Poland Match 1 Greece
Russia Match 2 Czech Republic
12 June 2012
Greece Match 9 Czech Republic
Poland Match 10 Russia
16 June 2012
Czech Republic Match 17 Poland
Greece Match 18 Russia
Group B
9 June 2012
Netherlands Match 3 Denmark
Germany Match 4 Portugal
13 June 2012
Denmark Match 11 Portugal
Netherlands Match 12 Germany
17 June 2012
Portugal Match 19 Netherlands
Denmark Match 20 Germany
Group C
10 June 2012
Spain Match 5 Italy
Republic of Ireland Match 6 Croatia
14 June 2012
Italy Match 13 Croatia
Spain Match 14 Republic of Ireland
18 June 2012
Croatia Match 21 Spain
Italy Match 22 Republic of Ireland
Group D
11 June 2012
France Match 7 England
Ukraine Match 8 Sweden
15 June 2012
Ukraine Match 15 France
Sweden Match 16 England
19 June 2012
England Match 23 Ukraine
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| #2 Posted on 8.6.12 1435.46
Reposted on: 8.6.19 1437.18 | Arshavin is looking good so far.
I'm still pulling for my favorites, Rep. of Ireland! | Big Bad
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|  #3 Posted on 8.6.12 1549.35
Reposted on: 8.6.19 1549.55 | | Geez, is Russia this good, or have the Czechs taken a step back? | Captain Ferret
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|  #4 Posted on 9.6.12 0526.05
Reposted on: 9.6.19 0526.38 | | Russia are pretty good (they beat Italy 3-0 just before the tournament) and the Czechs haven't brought many young players through recently, so they still rely on their old guard. | texasranger9
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| #5 Posted on 9.6.12 1823.48
Reposted on: 9.6.19 1825.07 | | The Dutch and Portugiese fell today. Both matches were good, but not great. Would like to see more scoring in the Ger-Port match. | dMr
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| #6 Posted on 11.6.12 0342.30
Reposted on: 11.6.19 0345.50 | Originally posted by Big Bad
Geez, is Russia this good, or have the Czechs taken a step back?
The Czechs are that bad. I still weep over Scotland's decision to employ a 4-6-0 formation against them when they were clearly there for the taking. Terrible, terrible side.
Russia don't suck though.
Italy looked mighty good against Spain yesterday. I expected them to just stick 11 men behind the ball and play for a 0-0 but their passing was really slick at times and they created plenty of chances. Of course Spain would still have won if Torres could hit a cow's arse with the proverbial banjo.
I still have no clue how Holland lost to Denmark, or who that imposter they had running around up front pretending to be van Persie was. He was lousy. | Zeruel
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| #7 Posted on 16.6.12 1204.46
Reposted on: 16.6.19 1204.46 | Group A scenarios:
| Team | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts | | Russia | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 2 | +3 | 4 | Czech Republic | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 5 | −2 | 3 | | Poland | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | | Greece | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | −1 | 1 |
If Greece & Czech Republic both win: #1Czech, #2 Greece
If Greece & Poland both win: #1 Poland, #2 Greece
If Russia & Czech Republic both win: #1 Russia, #2 Czech
If Russia & Poland both win: #1 Russia, #2 Poland
If Greece wins by 1-2 goals & Czech/Poland draw: #1 Russia, #2 Greece
If Greece wins by 3-5 goals & Czech/Poland draw: #1 Greece, #2 Russia
If Greece wins by 6 or more goals & Czech/Poland draw: #1 Greece, #2 Czech
If Russia wins & Czech/Poland draw: #1 Russia, #2 Czech
If Czech wins & Greece/Russia draw: #1 Czech, #2 Russia
If Poland wins by at least 4 goals (or 3 if they score 4 more than Russia) & Greece/Russia draw: #1 Poland, #2 Russia
If Poland wins by less than 4 goals (or if they score 3 or less than Russia) & Greece/Russia draw: #1 Russia, #2 Poland
Both games end in draws: #1 Russia, #2 Czech
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| #8 Posted on 16.6.12 1538.58
Reposted on: 16.6.19 1539.09 | | Well bugger me bandy, somehow the Czech Republic and Greece have somehow qualified for the quarter finals | odessasteps
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| #9 Posted on 16.6.12 1710.12
Reposted on: 16.6.19 1710.20 |
The Czechs advancing was about the only thing I've gotten right so far.
- Sweden advancing (no)
- Ireland advancing (no)
- The Dutch winning it (absolutely not) | Captain Ferret
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| #10 Posted on 17.6.12 0612.38
Reposted on: 17.6.19 0612.41 | | You had Ireland getting out of that group? Crikey. | dMr
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| #11 Posted on 18.6.12 0750.07
Reposted on: 18.6.19 0752.12 | Originally posted by Captain Ferret
You had Ireland getting out of that group? Crikey.
Crikey indeed! Ireland over Croatia, Italy and Spain would've been a pretty exciting prediction even if they were still the team they were in the mid-90s.
I say this having brilliantly tipped Russia as my dark horse to at least make the semis of course.
It's a shame we've got two pretty lousy teams (Greece and Czech Rep) going through while two pretty good teams go home from the other group. Holland really only have themselves to blame though. They never seemed to figure out what their best team was and van Persie missed more chances in three games for them than he did in a full season for Arsenal.
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| #12 Posted on 18.6.12 1218.05
Reposted on: 18.6.19 1219.15 | Originally posted by dMr
Originally posted by Captain Ferret
You had Ireland getting out of that group? Crikey.
Crikey indeed! Ireland over Croatia, Italy and Spain would've been a pretty exciting prediction even if they were still the team they were in the mid-90s.
I say this having brilliantly tipped Russia as my dark horse to at least make the semis of course.
It's a shame we've got two pretty lousy teams (Greece and Czech Rep) going through while two pretty good teams go home from the other group. Holland really only have themselves to blame though. They never seemed to figure out what their best team was and van Persie missed more chances in three games for them than he did in a full season for Arsenal.
Russia have got no-one to blame but themselves, either. They were far too confident they were going to get through (especially after the first game) that they didn't really try until it was too late.
Poland just plain caved under the pressure.
The Dutch are hopeless at the back, and had no link at all between all the attacking talent and the rest of the team. | dMr
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| #13 Posted on 19.6.12 0446.47
Reposted on: 19.6.19 0453.55 | Originally posted by Captain Ferret
Russia have got no-one to blame but themselves, either. They were far too confident they were going to get through (especially after the first game) that they didn't really try until it was too late.
That's a fair assessment of their performance in the second half against Poland but they tried plenty against the Greeks and just couldn't score. Bad finishing and a touch of bad luck did for them.
The Dutch are hopeless at the back, and had no link at all between all the attacking talent and the rest of the team.
I still think they're a good team. Vlaar's hopeless (despite having a fantastic name) but the rest of their back four should be good enough, especially with de Jong and van Bommel providing cover in front of them. They just never seemed to figure out their best shape which is weird given that it's basically the same team that reached the World Cup final.
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|  #14 Posted on 19.6.12 0509.42
Reposted on: 19.6.19 0514.02 | Originally posted by dMr
The Dutch are hopeless at the back, and had no link at all between all the attacking talent and the rest of the team.
I still think they're a good team. Vlaar's hopeless (despite having a fantastic name) but the rest of their back four should be good enough, especially with de Jong and van Bommel providing cover in front of them. They just never seemed to figure out their best shape which is weird given that it's basically the same team that reached the World Cup final.
Apparently lots of arguments and jealousy led to their downfall. Two years ago, they all wanted it together, now they all wanted it for themselves. There's even a rumor of a fight in the locker room.
(edited by dMp on 19.6.12 1210) | dMr
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| #15 Posted on 19.6.12 0808.31
Reposted on: 19.6.19 0811.02 | Originally posted by dMp
Apparently lots of arguments and jealousy led to their downfall.
Arguments in the Dutch dressing room?! Ridiculous. This could never happen 
Brilliantly I heard Robben the other day complain there were too many egos in the dressing room. I love Robben and all but, self-awareness much? | Captain Ferret
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| #16 Posted on 19.6.12 1514.14
Reposted on: 19.6.19 1514.16 | The Dutch back four (and crucially, van Bommel) are all two years older. Mathijsen was injured, and they had an 18 year old at left back (who had a horror show of a tournament).
The biggest problem was there was no link between the defenders and the forwards (which was the role van Bommel, and to a lesser extent, Dirk Kuyt filled) so other teams could just totally overrun them in midfield. And they're famously stroppy buggers who could have an argument in an empty room | Captain Ferret
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| #17 Posted on 22.6.12 1759.05
Reposted on: 22.6.19 1803.04 | | Well, Portugal and Germany have both looked pretty impressive in their quarter finals (though both were expected to win without too much trouble). Tomorrow will see just how much gallic contretemps there's been (though they'll lose to Spain, regardless) | MoeGates
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| #18 Posted on 24.6.12 1313.00
Reposted on: 24.6.19 1314.15 | Man, Spain didn't even blink. Just another cruise control 90 minutes. What are the odds on Spain 1-0 Portugal (semis), Spain 1-0 Germany (final)? That's my call.
They need to make a movie of this Spanish squad, if only because while watching the game, my friends were convinced Val Kilmer was playing Center Half and Jason Bateman scored two goals. | Captain Ferret
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| #19 Posted on 24.6.12 1635.13
Reposted on: 24.6.19 1635.28 | | Oh look, England lost a penalty shootout, that never happens. | dMr
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| #20 Posted on 25.6.12 0357.32
Reposted on: 25.6.19 0359.01 | Originally posted by MoeGates
Man, Spain didn't even blink. Just another cruise control 90 minutes. What are the odds on Spain 1-0 Portugal (semis), Spain 1-0 Germany (final)? That's my call.
I didn't think they looked great. Their passing in the second half in particular was really poor by their standards but France were too inept/scared to really have a go at them. Germany have looked the best side in the tournament IMO although I'd still be worried about relying on Mario Gomez in a big game.
Both semis look great on paper. All four sides play good football and even the Italians look much more willing to attack than they have in recent years. |
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