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|  #1 Posted on 26.12.10 2311.55
Reposted on: 26.12.17 2312.54 | As confirmed by the team, Mike Singletary was fired upon the team's return home this evening.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/30133/49ers-confirm-mike-singletarys-firing | Promote this thread! |             | CRZ
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| #2 Posted on 26.12.10 2314.19
Reposted on: 26.12.17 2314.22 | | We can only hope he gets booked on the Letterman show IMMEDIATELY. | StaggerLee
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| #3 Posted on 27.12.10 1224.20
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1225.05 | | Was firing him a week before the last game going to fix anything? | Big Bad
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|  #4 Posted on 27.12.10 1246.37
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1247.47 | | Might not have fixed anything, but it gives the Niners a week's head start on wooing Jim Harbaugh. | Texas Kelly
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| #5 Posted on 27.12.10 1345.56
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1346.28 | Originally posted by Big Bad
Might not have fixed anything, but it gives the Niners a week's head start on wooing Jim Harbaugh Jon Gruden.
Fixed that for you. Harbaugh's not leaving Stanford, especially with Luck making noise that he'll be coming back next year (as he should, given that Stanford can contend for a national title again and the NFL's labor strife). The 49ers job, OTOH, is the Holy Grail for anyone on the West Coast coaching tree that Gruden's part of, and it's the one job that I could (and do) see him stepping out of the MNF booth for. | The Thrill
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| #6 Posted on 27.12.10 1359.29
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1400.02 | | Do the Packers get credit for this one, too...along w/ Brad Childress and Wade Phillips? | StaggerLee
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| #7 Posted on 27.12.10 1409.27
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1410.53 | | Plus being able to build a winner across the bay from Al Davis must be attractive to him. | thecubsfan
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| #8 Posted on 27.12.10 1508.13
Reposted on: 27.12.17 1508.15 | Originally posted by Big Bad
Might not have fixed anything, but it gives the Niners a week's head start on wooing Jim Harbaugh.
They could've just announced Singletary wouldn't be returning for 2011 (which it seemed like they did right after the game), without needing to get a new coach for a week. They want a new coach, but ownership must've been immensely angry with Singletary to need to get rid of him now. | RYDER FAKIN
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| #9 Posted on 27.12.10 2155.31
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2159.01 | ex GREAT players seem to be doomed as head coaches. Maybe Singletary should have started as a behind the scenes coordinator and worked his up. His style is in your face, which many of the athletes do not understand
I've been trying to think of a GREAT player who made the transition to Coach (at any of the 4 big sports - NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL). Larry Bird is the only one that comes to mind that had any success
Just a curious question, but I have high standards. If anyone has an idea of a GREAT player that worked well as a Coach, I'm all eyes. Eagles could use Singletary as a fine Defensive coach, but head coach - no way, at least not now
Names re: the second paragraph would be interesting
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| #10 Posted on 27.12.10 2214.20
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2214.20 | | 1971 National League MVP Joe Torre would qualify as one I believe. | The Guinness.
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| #11 Posted on 27.12.10 2216.05
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2217.49 | Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
I've been trying to think of a GREAT player who made the transition to Coach (at any of the 4 big sports - NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL). Larry Bird is the only one that comes to mind that had any success
Names re: the second paragraph would be interesting
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| #12 Posted on 27.12.10 2219.58
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2221.05 | Originally posted by The Guinness.
Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
I've been trying to think of a GREAT player who made the transition to Coach (at any of the 4 big sports - NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL). Larry Bird is the only one that comes to mind that had any success
Names re: the second paragraph would be interesting
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I see four round dedicated Chicago fans choking on a turkey leg in front of a Saturday Night Live Crowd. They cannot believe what you just said.
I was just coning to edit my post to say something similar. | JayJayDean
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| #13 Posted on 27.12.10 2220.28
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2221.34 | Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
I've been trying to think of a GREAT player who made the transition to Coach (at any of the 4 big sports - NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL). Larry Bird is the only one that comes to mind that had any success
Just a curious question, but I have high standards. If anyone has an idea of a GREAT player that worked well as a Coach, I'm all eyes.
Mike Ditka? (Or what The Guinness said.)
Forrest Gregg? Raymond Berry? Those two got to Super Bowls. Your mileage may vary on whether that means they were "great" coaches but they were most definitely great players.
(edited by JayJayDean on 27.12.10 2021) | TheBucsFan
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| #14 Posted on 27.12.10 2238.25
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2239.44 | Bill Russell won 11 championships as a player and two as a coach, he's probably the leading candidate in this category. I don't know enough about his coaching career to really elaborate.
Mike Ditka, in my opinion, was not a very good football coach. Sure, he won a Super Bowl ... with a revolutionary defensive coordinator and one of the most stacked rosters of all time.
And Joe Torre was not a great baseball player, though he was pretty good. If every single player who has ever won a single MVP award is "great," then "great" is a totally meaningless superlative.
Jerry West was a great player and pretty good during his short coaching career. He was an elite general manager with the Lakers too.
Lenny Wilkins is a hall of famer twice, inducted once as a player and once as a coach.
Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan was good enough as a player to have his number retired by the Bulls.
I feel like I'm overlooking somebody obvious though. It's probably no coincidence that all the best examples are in basketball, a sport where coaching, in my opinion, is the easiest. | Peter The Hegemon
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| #15 Posted on 27.12.10 2314.16
Reposted on: 27.12.17 2314.16 | Frank Robinson had a pretty good managerial career, and he was certainly a great player.
I think in general, though, it usually doesn't work that way. I've heard a pretty plausible theory that if you're that talented, it's hard to help those who aren't, because you don't really understand what it's like for them. It's probably hard to be patient with the less talented, too. | Lexus
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| #16 Posted on 28.12.10 0500.19
Reposted on: 28.12.17 0500.48 | I can totally see Singletary getting work as a defensive coordinator or even linebackers coach somewhere, maybe another head coaching job somewhere down the line, where he'll get fired for murdering his own QB. Tough love just doesn't work with all guys, and best of luck to Singletary in the future.
There are going to be other enticing job offers around the league that the 49ers will have to contend with; If the Giants miss the postseason Coughlin could be out and you have a place a coach can go with dominant line play, a 1st tier QB (give the man the targets his brother or Phil Rivers has) and is one linebacker away from having the best defense in the NFL, Cleveland might be looking and has nothing but upside with Holmgren at the helm, and not to be overly assumptive Dallas is also looking for a coach, though they'll probably stick with Garrett.
Also, in relation, greats usually aren't all that great in front office roles. Sure, Nolan Ryan's done wonders for the Rangers, but Michael Jordan and Wayne Gretzky haven't done much, much less a one-time ProBowler and owner of 4 peices of Super Bowl jewelery guy named Matt Millen.
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| #17 Posted on 28.12.10 0834.03
Reposted on: 28.12.17 0835.34 | | The real problem for the 49ers was not all Singletary, but the person under the center. As long as people foolishly believe Alex Smith can be a star in this league, they will continue to have that problem. I think with the strike looming people like Harbaugh, Gruden and to some extent Cowher are probably not going to see much recruiting since no owner wants to pay for a guy for a half a year if that. | Kei Posiskunk
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| #18 Posted on 28.12.10 1003.51
Reposted on: 28.12.17 1004.01 | Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
I've heard a pretty plausible theory that if you're that talented, it's hard to help those who aren't, because you don't really understand what it's like for them. It's probably hard to be patient with the less talented, too.
I've been saying this all my life. The reason those who aren't talented ARE good at helping those who aren't (if they ever managed to overcome their lack of talent) is because they know exactly what they needed and what worked for them, and they really had to think about how they did things. The talented don't really have to think about it, it's automatic to them, more or less.
Unfortunately, this is why I can't find anybody to teach me how to do any of the things I want to be able to do (and I can't self-teach, because there's nobody to show me how to fix all the things I screw up, or even show me how I screwed it up in the first place). | AWArulz
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| #19 Posted on 28.12.10 1153.16
Reposted on: 28.12.17 1154.04 | Great players who were pretty coaches or vice versa
(I really only do baseball)
Yogi Berra
Lou Boudreau
Bill Dickey
Bill Terry | StingArmy
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| #20 Posted on 28.12.10 1342.33
Reposted on: 28.12.17 1344.01 | I didn't catch the name of the dummy who was covering for Colin Cowherd on Monday's show, but despite his dummy-ness he (and his guest Trent Dilfer) made a good point that seems on-topic here. They suggested that great players don't often translate into good coaches because they have expectations that are far too high of their players and/or they don't understand what it takes to be great (i.e., it just comes to many of them naturally). And as a corollary to that, they said it's the average or mediocre players who make good coaches because during their playing careers they had to work harder and study their respective sports longer in order to figure out what works and what doesn't.
Like I said I thought the guy filling in for Cowherd was an idiot in every other thing he said, and I don't particularly respect Trent Dilfer either. However, I think their notions might be spot-on when it comes to Mike Singletary. In his heyday Singletary would have made Ray Lewis seem like a scout teamer. He had a stellar career and played on one of the greatest teams of all time. Meanwhile, Singletary today was coaching a sub-par 49ers team led by a pair of awful quarterbacks. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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