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#1 Posted on 2.9.10 0531.32
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One of the more exciting base-brawls in a while

This brawl is notable for a couple of reasons:

1. I didn't see either party back down. Usually, you see at least one person backpeddle during one of these fights.

2. Gaby Sanchez just WAFFLED Morgan out of nowhere with a beautiful clothesline. I'm already convinced that he can outwork more than half the Season 2 cast of NXT.

But seriously, though, thank you to Nyjer Morgan for showing that you CAN have a Nationals headline without the name "Strasburg" in it.
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#2 Posted on 2.9.10 1011.20
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Sounds like the Marlins had plunked Morgan earlier in the game. ("They threw at him in a professional manner" Seriously, the commentators say that.)

Then the commentators criticize Morgan for stealing 2nd and 3rd after he was hit by a pitch. Which I guess led to throwing at Morgan a second time and Morgan charging the mound.

If I were in charge I would suspend both pitcher and batter.
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#3 Posted on 2.9.10 1038.01
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That pitcher adopted the frat-boy fighting stance of putting both his hands behind his legs with locked elbows. The "hit me, hit me" defiant position. He's lucky he didn't get KTFO by the batter.
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#4 Posted on 2.9.10 1046.33
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Well, Mr. Morgan has turned into quite a punk recently. The other day, he barrelled into a catcher as he went for home...except there was no play at the plate (the ball was at first), and Morgan had to go so far out of his way to hit the catcher that he missed home.

Then, two nights ago, he barrelled into Marlins catcher Brett Hayes so hard that Hayes is on the shelf with a separated shoulder.

So, the first time Morgan got thrown at last night was retaliation for the Hayes injury. Morgan then manufactured himself a run by stealing second, stealing third, and going home on a sac fly...oh, but the Nats were down 11 runs.

What's lost in all of this is that the Nats actually made a nice little comeback. Can you imagine if they came all the way back and won by one run?
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#5 Posted on 2.9.10 1952.54
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    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Morgan then manufactured himself a run by stealing second, stealing third, and going home on a sac fly...oh, but the Nats were down 11 runs.

I keep hearing the scoring deficit mentioned as an explanation for why he got plunked. Someone please explain to me how a player trying to help his team make a come back (which, apparently, they almost did) is "showing up" the other team. I mean it, really. Maybe I'm missing something.

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#6 Posted on 2.9.10 2122.44
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Somewhere, Robin Ventura is happy he no longer is owner of "worst ass kicking in Major League Baseball".
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#7 Posted on 2.9.10 2203.48
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    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Well, Mr. Morgan has turned into quite a punk recently. The other day, he barrelled into a catcher as he went for home...except there was no play at the plate (the ball was at first), and Morgan had to go so far out of his way to hit the catcher that he missed home.


And was called out by the umpire after his teammates touched him in an attempt to get him to touch the plate, hence negating what was an easy run.

    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Then, two nights ago, he barrelled into Marlins catcher Brett Hayes so hard that Hayes is on the shelf with a separated shoulder.


And was called out by the umpire at the plate when Hayes managed to hold onto the ball. Had he slid, he would have scored.

    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Someone please explain to me how a player trying to help his team make a come back (which, apparently, they almost did) is "showing up" the other team.


I don't think it was this act in and of itself, but the other actions on top of this. Had he stole the bases without the two previous incidents, I doubt it would be much of an issue - but when you sacrifice two scoring opportunities because you're too busy going after the catcher, it's hard to suddenly believe you give a shit about the score when you're getting blown out.

(edited by Leroy on 2.9.10 2013)
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#8 Posted on 2.9.10 2246.52
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Somewhere, Robin Ventura is happy he no longer is owner of "worst ass kicking in Major League Baseball".

I don't think you watched the same fight as everyone else.

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#9 Posted on 3.9.10 0840.46
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    Originally posted by StingArmy

    I keep hearing the scoring deficit mentioned as an explanation for why he got plunked. Someone please explain to me how a player trying to help his team make a come back (which, apparently, they almost did) is "showing up" the other team. I mean it, really. Maybe I'm missing something.

    - StingArmy

I'm no fan of the unwritten rules of baseball, but I believe the thought process is as follows:

"We're up so many runs that we know and you know that a comeback is extremely unlikely. So we promise to not try to embarrass you by trying to score more runs if you'll do the same."

And of course Morgan wanted no part of that. I don't know if it was for personal gain (no one is going to care that two SBs on the season came here) or if it was actually trying to help the team. As Leroy says, his previous actions don't necessarily show that he cares about helping the team.
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#10 Posted on 3.9.10 1518.34
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    "We're up so many runs that we know and you know that a comeback is extremely unlikely. So we promise to not try to embarrass you by trying to score more runs if you'll do the same."


The problem with this unwritten rule is that the Nats nearly DID come back from 10 runs down, didn't they? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like the Nats made the game close again. So why fault Morgan for refusing to give up?

Fault him for charging the mound like a bonehead, sure. But for the Marlins to fault him for trying to keep his team in the game just seems dumb.
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#11 Posted on 3.9.10 1530.43
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[quote Mr. Boffo"We're up so many runs that we know and you know that a comeback is extremely unlikely. So we promise to not try to embarrass you by trying to score more runs if you'll do the same."


Do all sports have this rule? Seems stupid. Oh wait, it's an American sporting rule, makes sense now. lol!
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#12 Posted on 3.9.10 1607.16
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I'll be the first person to call someone out for speculating on the motives of others, but I don't mind being called a hypocrite when I say that the last thing Morgan was thinking about was keeping his team in the game.

If he had hit a HR instead and watched it all the way, would it then be OK to throw behind him next AB?
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#13 Posted on 3.9.10 1636.33
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For those interested, I recommend
http://www.seattlepi.com/othersports/207552_unwrittenrules12.html , a 2005 article written by the staff of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which details the unwritten rules of baseball, basketball, football, hockey, and golf. I'm not sure all of them are real (I've seen fake punts before, after all), but it's interesting, to say the least. And again, I'm not saying I agree with them, but many of the players do.
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#14 Posted on 3.9.10 1909.23
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This book (and accompanying blog) is pretty good for baseball's unwritten rules.
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