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#21 Posted on 18.5.06 2239.00
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    Originally posted by Oliver
    First Lonestar CD was awesome, but after their debut album, they started to really get boring. After CRAZY NIGHTS was released, John Rich left, and the band dropped their country look, and went for a more radio-friendly sound with LONELY GRILL.

    I haven't even bothered listening to anything new from them since John Rich left.


Amazing-I had been saying something similar, and I didn't realize it was John Rich's influence until I recognized him when Big & Rich emerged. I kept wondering, "Why does Lonestar suck so much now?", and I figured after "Amazed", they realized that middle-of-the-road sells.

See also: Adams, Bryan-anything released after the Robin Hood song went huge.
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#22 Posted on 19.5.06 0314.05
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    Originally posted by orange man
    A bit surprised no one mentioned this yet, but what about Metallic putting out Load after the Black album?

    Another one for me was Zebadiah. I loved Pharmacy but thought The Zebadiah was blah.


Now that I am older, I got to admit, that Load really isn't as bad I thought it was 10 years ago. Don't get me wrong, I'll always prefer the long haired, head banging, alcoholic days of Metallica to the whole alternative phase. But the music on that album wasn't half bad.

Reload on the other hand.....
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#23 Posted on 19.5.06 0902.40
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Well, I'm going to go more pop based with my choices.

Lifehouse's first album was the first and only album I bought based on listening to 20 second clips at a Walmart listening station. I loved the entire album, and I bought the next album "Stanley Climbfall" on the first day it came out. That album is garbage compared to "No Name Face," and it soured me so much that I never got around to buying this last album (even though the singles are decent).

Likewise, I loved Good Charlotte's self titled debut. While the next album, "The Young And the Hopeless" isn't bad per se, I think it was a big drop from the intensity of their debut.

Finally, Alanis Morrisette may have dropped the furthest for me. That first album was terrific and all the other stuff has paled in comparison.
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#24 Posted on 19.5.06 0907.37
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    Finally, Alanis Morrisette may have dropped the furthest for me. That first album was terrific and all the other stuff has paled in comparison.


I thought things got a lot better after her her debut CD.

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#25 Posted on 19.5.06 0939.15
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    I've got three, all of which I like much better NOW, but completely hated at the time.

    - Stone Temple Pilot's self-titled follow-up to "Core"
    - Pearl Jam's "Vitalogy" on the heels of "Ten" and "Vs."
    - "Use Your Illusion I & II" by Guns N Roses

    All three of those sat unlistened to for quite some time.

    Also, *I* liked "Long Cold Winter". And while we're owning up to liking bands that lots dislike, let me say that "311" is an AWESOME CD, while "Transistor" was LAME.


I actually really enjoy the "Illusion" albums. I think they're both strong and full of excellent songs, though I would agree that the world didn't really need two versions of "Don't Cry" and that "Shotgun Blues" and "Get in the Ring" are weak links.

I'm wasn't necessarily tryinig to dis "LCW", I simply felt that it wasn't a strong follow-up.
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#26 Posted on 19.5.06 1043.52
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Absolutely, without a doubt, Sarah McLachlan's latest album. It STUNK UP THE PLANET compared to "Surfacing" and even "Mirrorball" (the live album).

Honorable mention goes to Semisonic's "All About Chemistry."
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#27 Posted on 19.5.06 1115.18
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    Originally posted by The Goon
      Originally posted by Oliver
      First Lonestar CD was awesome, but after their debut album, they started to really get boring. After CRAZY NIGHTS was released, John Rich left, and the band dropped their country look, and went for a more radio-friendly sound with LONELY GRILL.

      I haven't even bothered listening to anything new from them since John Rich left.


    Amazing-I had been saying something similar, and I didn't realize it was John Rich's influence until I recognized him when Big & Rich emerged. I kept wondering, "Why does Lonestar suck so much now?", and I figured after "Amazed", they realized that middle-of-the-road sells.
Well, if you look at the two first LONESTAR CDs...John had half the songs on the first and two tracks on the second...and didn't do leads on any of their video or radio releases. It's a really sad situation.

Now, I'm not bashing Lonestar...but they're not the same without John in there. If anything, Big&Rich are absolutely AWESOME...but I dunno.
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#28 Posted on 19.5.06 1122.00
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Alanis is a good example.

I also think "Around the World in a Day" was a weak follow-up to Prince's "Purple Rain". It was OK, but it was pretty hard to imagine anything living up to the huge success/acclaim of "Purple Rain". I remember seeing lots of copies of "Around the World in a Day" in the bargain bins in 1986.
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#29 Posted on 19.5.06 1516.16
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AC/DC Flick of the Switch

While I didn't hate it, I was incredibly disappointed when it came out. Following up Back in Black was an impossible challenge and AC/DC delivered with For Those About To Rock, a great record. But following up For Those About To Rock, proved to be a problem. I was a freshman in high school and waiting for it's release was all anybody talked about. We had seen them a number of times by then (including Bon Scott's farewell Highway To Hell/British Steel tour with Judas Priest--the first concert I ever attended) and the anticipation for new AC/DC was huge. It failed to deliver, and even worse than that, Fly on the Wall was on deck.

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#30 Posted on 19.5.06 1604.24
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    Originally posted by orangeman
    A bit surprised no one mentioned this yet, but what about Metallica putting out Load after the Black album?

    Another one for me was Sebadoh. I loved Harmacy but thought The Sebadoh was blah.

      Originally posted by Nag
        Originally posted by orange man
        A bit surprised no one mentioned this yet, but what about Metallic putting out Load after the Black album?

        Another one for me was Zebadiah. I loved Pharmacy but thought The Zebadiah was blah.



    Hmmm...interesting what the spell check did to my quote.
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#31 Posted on 19.5.06 2103.37
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    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
    and even worse than that, Fly on the Wall was on deck.



"Flick Of The Switch" wasn't nearly as good as "Back In Black" or "For Those About To Rock", but it was alright and good enough to keep in my cd collection. But "Fly On The Wall" (and everything after it) definitely killed AC/DC for me.

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#32 Posted on 20.5.06 0459.21
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Pearl Jam, "Vs"

    Originally posted by allmusic.com
    Pearl Jam took to superstardom like deer in headlights.


As much as I loved "Ten," I hated "Vs." Hated.

True story: I bought Vs on the same trip to the music store as I bought this:

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And Shaq Diesel got much more time in my CD player than Vs.

Pearl Jam followed "Vs" with the unbelievably bad "Vitalogy" (an album I am convinced they made as bad as possible on purpose, by the way), and I pretty much wrote Pearl Jam off as a "One Album and Done" band.

Knowing what we all know now, I tend to buy the rumors that Pearl Jam was tanking their albums under the Sony label, since the new album is quite good.

    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Stone Temple Pilot's self-titled follow-up to "Core"


Oh my goodness! Blasphemy! "Purple" is one of my favorite albums of all time. Take issue with "Tiny Music" or "No. 4" all you want and you'll get no arguments from me, but "Core" and "Purple" are both tremendous albums, and would both be in my Top 10.
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#33 Posted on 20.5.06 0530.43
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    Originally posted by Nag
    Reload on the other hand.....


Okay, it was a step down from "Load", but still has some listen-able songs.

But then the pushed out "St. Anger", which I actually have defended on this board. However, with the passage of time, this may be one of the biggest shame-inducing Cd's that I own. It sounds like a demo disc, recorded before the bassist got there.

    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    But "Fly On The Wall" (and everything after it) definitely killed AC/DC for me.


I think they bounced back a bit with "Who Made Who", even though a lot of those songs are on other albums.


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#34 Posted on 20.5.06 1005.46
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How about the Smashing Pumpkins following up Siamese Dream with Pisces Iscariot? And then following up Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness with Adore?
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#35 Posted on 20.5.06 1432.41
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    Originally posted by Alpha Dog
    As much as I loved "Ten," I hated "Vs." Hated.

    Oh my goodness! Blasphemy! "Purple" is one of my favorite albums of all time. Take issue with "Tiny Music" or "No. 4" all you want and you'll get no arguments from me, but "Core" and "Purple" are both tremendous albums, and would both be in my Top 10.
WHAAAAAAAAA?! "Vs." is a good album! "Animal," "Daughter," "Glorified G," "Dissident," "Rearviewmirror," and "Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town" are all great songs, IMO. Sure, you have crap like "Rats" and "Blood", but every album has at least a couple throwaway tracks.

I also liked "Vitalogy," so take that for what you will. And I don't think I would put anything by Stone Temple Pilots in any personal Top 10 of mine. Different strokes for different folks.

For me, everything PJ released after "Vitalogy" and up until their new self-titled effort ranged from mediocre to completely forgettable. However, I get pretty frustrated reading the current intarwebs theory about PJ intentionally tanking albums. That's a LOT of freaking time and money to waste just to prove a point, most self-respecting artists would NEVER intentionally put out horrible work, and I've always felt it had more to do with the fact that their songwriting was stagnant and didn't really mature much beyond "Vitalogy."


    Originally posted by Teapot
    How about the Smashing Pumpkins following up Siamese Dream with Pisces Iscariot? And then following up Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness with Adore?
"Pisces Iscariot" was a collection of B-sides, outtakes, demos, and covers. I don't think it's fair to consider releases like that comparable to fresh studio albums. And for what it was, I didn't think it was all that bad, even if it was nowhere near "Siamese Dream."

I always felt that about half of "Mellon Collie" could have (or should have) been left on the cutting room floor. There was NO reason for that to be a double album. That being said, "Adore" makes it look like "Sgt. Pepper's" in comparison.

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#36 Posted on 20.5.06 1537.40
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"Learning How To Smile" by Everclear. Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh. I mean even just the cover of "Brown Eyed Girl". But the rest. Again, ugh. And "So Much For The Afterglow" was so good, too. Ugh.
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#37 Posted on 20.5.06 1702.00
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Think I'm going to go with "Cocky." Though to me it is amazing how "My Own Prison" had so much good stuff and within two years Creed would become the asinine band I hate on an almost personal level.
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    I was a huge fan of the first Third Eye Blind album, but both subsequent releases REALLY paled in comparison.
No offense intended... but you sir, are CRAZY. Blue kicks twelve kinds of ass. As great at 3EB is, Blue is just as catchy and a million times more personal and lyrically creative.

I appreciate no one taking cheap shots at Insomniac.

I also liked "Learning How To Smile." "Brown Eyed Girl" "AM Radio" "Anna's Song" "Songs From an American Movie" it had tons of good stuff. But "So Much For the Afterglow" is Everclear's monolithic icon album, their "Dookie." And as much as I like them I don't think they have an "American Idiot" up their sleeve.
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#38 Posted on 20.5.06 2126.17
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    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    most self-respecting artists would NEVER intentionally put out horrible work



Isn't there some sort of story about Neil Young putting out crap on purpose because he was pissed off at his record company at the time ?
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#39 Posted on 20.5.06 2159.07
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When Boston came out with their self-titled album in 1976, I immediately began waiting for their second album. I mean, :Boston" was a great, great album. I had it on Vinyl AND 8 Track.

Then "Don't look Back" came out in '78. Just a nothing album, I thought. I can hum/sing four or five songs from Boston right now, but nothing from "Don't look Back". And they knew it too. When I saw them with Journey at Day on the Green in 79, almost their entire set was from their Debut album.
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#40 Posted on 20.5.06 2219.53
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    Originally posted by AWArulz
    I had it on Vinyl AND 8 Track.




Very few people on this board probably realize how truly awesome this statement is. Us old guys know. I've had very very few albums that were on multiple formats (although I didn't know they were formats at the time). I had a lot on vinyl and a lot on 8 track and a lot on cassete. But, duplication was rare.








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