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| #1 Posted on 5.9.04 2043.58 Reposted on: 5.9.11 2044.37 | http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/040902
Yes, it's a bit old (just discovered it via Fark today). I have to say, this is one of the stupidest articles I've ever read. At first, I thought it was a joke story about how we must be racist if we rooted against USA. Unfortunately, I don't believe it was. Really sad that it's come to this. Promote this thread! | | BigVitoMark
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| #2 Posted on 5.9.04 2306.39 Reposted on: 5.9.11 2306.46 | Originally posted by ESPN.com Page 2 Clown It's immoral to hate what you create.
I guess that's why America hates Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods so much.
People will rally behind character guys. The team didn't have many guys casual fans could get with. They lost, there is no story there. | Packman V2
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| #3 Posted on 6.9.04 0041.54 Reposted on: 6.9.11 0042.01 | The only guy I could root for on Team USA was Duncan, the rest of the guys...just didn't leave me any desire to root for them, I despise Jefferson and Marbury, and just don't give a shit about any of the rest.
I was rooting for Ginobili and the Argentinians, because they were geniunely happy to be there, and I loved the way they played. | Grimis
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| #4 Posted on 7.9.04 0753.31 Reposted on: 7.9.11 0756.11 | I mentioned this article at work with a black co-worker. He said: "That's not racism; they just suck." | ges7184
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| #5 Posted on 7.9.04 1930.37 Reposted on: 7.9.11 1930.56 | Would I be wrong to say that the author has mistaken hatred for apathy (outside of perhaps sports talk radio)? Would I be wrong in thinking that perhaps he has exaggerated the level of criticism of Team USA just so that he could make his next point (racism)? Would a truly racist nation embrace a team that was about 75% black (Dream Team I)?
(edited by ges7184 on 7.9.04 1933) | Net Hack Slasher
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| #6 Posted on 8.9.04 1810.30 Reposted on: 8.9.11 1811.16 | Did this guy learn his writing skills on "How to troll a messageboard 101" He took real legit reasons in not really falling in love with Team USA (ie style of play). And says Naa, naa that's not the reason, the real reason is racism. Give me a break... How could you not help but find yourself supporting a team (Argentina) when you hear a story of one of it's players had his fiancee, mom and dad pass away in a span of a year and he's out there playing. Oh I'm such a racist for supporting him.
Everyone loves an underdog, I guess I'm also a racist for cheering on the Jamaican bobsled team even in the Calgary CANADA Olympics, it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the amazing story of a bobsleigh team from freakin Jamacia!... Or a few soccer World Cups ago when Cameroon made a surprising run, lots of people got into them because it was cool and surprising to see a none South American or European team going far. They also played a entertaining style. It had nothing to do with Black/White.
It's amazing at times how quickly people are willing to write their ignorance in print and wants to drag other people down with them. Because dammit you can't be pro or give respect for another team or country. Naa it has to be that you have to be a racist, whatever dude.
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| #7 Posted on 10.9.04 2153.52 Reposted on: 10.9.11 2154.16 | Originally posted by Grimis I mentioned this article at work with a black co-worker. He said: "That's not racism; they just suck."
I suppose this is important because he speaks for all black people..?
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(For the record, I cheered for Team USA because, you know, I want American teams to win. Furthermore, the author of that article has some valid points, but even he must know that he's way off base.) | Whitebacon
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| #8 Posted on 10.9.04 2211.56 Reposted on: 10.9.11 2212.09 | Originally posted by StingArmy
Originally posted by Grimis I mentioned this article at work with a black co-worker. He said: "That's not racism; they just suck."
I suppose this is important because he speaks for all black people..?
- StingArmy
(For the record, I cheered for Team USA because, you know, I want American teams to win. Furthermore, the author of that article has some valid points, but even he must know that he's way off base.)
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that gets what Grimis says. He's not using his friend to speak for ALL black people. His friend simply disagrees with Mr. Whitlock, as do many (black and white) Americans. The lack of rooting interest in this years team was not due to a lack of white players, but due to people wanting to see a bunch of rich, prima donnas (for the most part), get humbled on a global scale. Which they did. Because they sucked. | StingArmy
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| #9 Posted on 10.9.04 2358.06 Reposted on: 10.9.11 2358.28 | Originally posted by Whitebacon Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that gets what Grimis says. He's not using his friend to speak for ALL black people. His friend simply disagrees with Mr. Whitlock, as do many (black and white) Americans. The lack of rooting interest in this years team was not due to a lack of white players, but due to people wanting to see a bunch of rich, prima donnas (for the most part), get humbled on a global scale. Which they did. Because they sucked.
I think my point was that Grimis must have related the story of what his "black co-worker" said about the article for a reason. I mean, what sense does it make to just randomly say, "Yeah this guy I know thought the article was dumb?" No offense to Grimis or his co-worker, but why on earth would we care about what this random third party thought about the article? The only logical conclusion you could come to (at least as far as I could tell) was that Grimis was implying his co-worker's opinions are somehow representative of what black people think about the situation.
- StingArmy
P.S. - Sorry, I'll try to stop now. This is starting to sound like a thread better suited for the Random or Politics forums. | Quezzy
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| #10 Posted on 11.9.04 2153.42 Reposted on: 11.9.11 2153.43 | Well what people has to realize is that the NBA players are going to be looked at differently than the other Olympic athletes simply because of their fame. I mean other than the basketball team the only Americans I knew were Logan Tom, Lisa Fernandez, Cat Osterman, and Jennie Finch. And even them I didn't know very much about other than seeing them play. It's easy to cheer for all the other Americans simply because they are American because we have no idea what their personalities are. I rooted for the Hamm brothers, I have no idea if I would like them. I cheered for Natalie Coughlin and Michael Phelps but I have no idea if I would like them. But the NBA players since i'm familiar with them, I do not like (except Duncan and Lebron). Sure I don't KNOW them personally but I've seen the way they react to things and treat things enough to have an opinion on them. So it was a lot easier to root for everyone else that I didn't know simply because they are American, while it wasn't as easy with the NBA players. | Grimis
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| #11 Posted on 12.9.04 0743.13 Reposted on: 12.9.11 0745.12 | Originally posted by StingArmy No offense to Grimis or his co-worker, but why on earth would we care about what this random third party thought about the article? The only logical conclusion you could come to (at least as far as I could tell) was that Grimis was implying his co-worker's opinions are somehow representative of what black people think about the situation.
More along the lines of "this guy is trying to make a stupid point, and everybody knows it." I have spoken to other black friends/acquaintances of mine since then and all agree how ridiculous the premise is. | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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