The W
Views: 186393014
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
4.10.17 1933
The 7 - Basketball - LeBron -- WOW! Register and log in to post!
(1290 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (17 total)
JayJayDean
Scrapple
Level: 136

Posts: 712/4750
EXP: 29845452
For next: 251540

Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 3175 days
Last activity: 2753 days
Y!:
#1 Posted on 30.10.03 0901.46
Reposted on: 30.10.10 0903.21
25 points, 9 assists, 4 steals, 2 turnovers = PRETTY DAMN GOOD!

What a game as well! After watching the end of the Knicks and Magic (shoot me in the head, please!) seeing the Cavs and Kings go out and light it up in the first quarter to the tune of 39-32 was awesome. LeBron lives up to the hype like a 19-year-old Ken Griffey Jr. roaming the Mariners outfield (Note to LeBron: Look how HE turned out) for the first time. If the Cavs can turn on the defense a bit better and reign in Ricky Davis they are going to win a lot more games than a lot of people are predicting.
Promote this thread!
chuckc14
Summer sausage
Level: 49

Posts: 331/453
EXP: 878987
For next: 4902

Since: 2.1.02
From: Nashville

Since last post: 6814 days
Last activity: 5202 days
#2 Posted on 30.10.03 1019.52
Reposted on: 30.10.10 1025.14
The thing about this kid, is that I really believe he is a "team first" player. How many 18 year old kids can you say that about? He gave up a wide open dunk to get a teammate involved. His halftime interview was filled with "we's" and not "I's". I really like this kid.
Kawshen
Liverwurst
Level: 75

Posts: 524/1201
EXP: 3794432
For next: 32489

Since: 2.1.02
From: Bronx, NY

Since last post: 5593 days
Last activity: 3853 days
#3 Posted on 30.10.03 1024.03
Reposted on: 30.10.10 1025.41
I agree - but let's not get too excited just yet. Let's see how he goes about 5-10 games in.

But if this is any indication, he may become the sequel to Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson after all. All he needs is a decent jumper since most of his offense was slashing to the basket.

6'8" 240. Yikes.
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator
Level: 240

Posts: 3162/17726
EXP: 215461723
For next: 1838553

Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 22 hours
ICQ:  
Y!:
#4 Posted on 30.10.03 2000.24
Reposted on: 30.10.10 2003.32
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    25 points, 9 assists, 4 steals, 2 turnovers = PRETTY DAMN GOOD!
Oops, Kings win. Sorry. :)
drjayphd
Scrapple
Moderator
Level: 127

Posts: 1614/4035
EXP: 23211487
For next: 515144

Since: 22.4.02
From: New Hampshire

Since last post: 956 days
Last activity: 541 days
ICQ:  
Y!:
#5 Posted on 30.10.03 2104.38
Reposted on: 30.10.10 2104.51
Minor detail, CRZ. The wins'll come with a better team... but it's hard to believe LeBron really isn't good enough to be in the NBA after last night.
ekedolphin
Scrapple




Since: 12.1.02
From: Indianapolis, IN; now residing in Suffolk, VA

Since last post: 680 days
Last activity: 66 days
#6 Posted on 30.10.10 2345.59
Even back then, did we really know how good LeBron James would become?
evilwaldo
Lap cheong
Level: 85

Posts: 1224/1597
EXP: 5805690
For next: 92874

Since: 7.2.02
From: New York, NY

Since last post: 7042 days
Last activity: 6822 days
#7 Posted on 31.10.03 0916.45
Reposted on: 31.10.10 0916.51
The problem with LeBron is that he has no consistant jump shot which will come back to haunt him in a month. Teams will take away his penetration and force him to beat them with his jump shot.

One or two games does not make a career or a season. You should wait until January before passing judgement. It is not going to be hard to score a lot of points for the Cavs when you are the only decent player on the team.
JayJayDean
Scrapple
Level: 136

Posts: 714/4750
EXP: 29845452
For next: 251540

Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 3175 days
Last activity: 2753 days
Y!:
#8 Posted on 31.10.03 0932.02
Reposted on: 31.10.10 0933.55
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      25 points, 9 assists, 4 steals, 2 turnovers = PRETTY DAMN GOOD!
    Oops, Kings win. Sorry. :)


The Kings and a lot of other teams are going to beat the Cavs because it's apparent after two games that, aside from LeBron, the Cavs have NO IDEA how to play good team basketball, especially in the fourth-quarter and on defense. Ricky Davis needs to get sent to the new Charlotte expansion team so he can take all of the shots for a team that wins 12 games...that guy has the WORST shot selection I have ever seen.
chuckc14
Summer sausage
Level: 49

Posts: 334/453
EXP: 878987
For next: 4902

Since: 2.1.02
From: Nashville

Since last post: 6814 days
Last activity: 5202 days
#9 Posted on 31.10.03 1024.44
Reposted on: 31.10.10 1027.16
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      25 points, 9 assists, 4 steals, 2 turnovers = PRETTY DAMN GOOD!
    Oops, Kings win. Sorry. :)


I completely agree, but the difference with this kid, is that he acknowledged this fact while Jim Gray was asking him to assess his INDIVIDUAL performance. It was basically something like "it doesn't matter, we lost."

I love this kid, and I'm not usually a sucker for the hype. It's refreshing to hear a rookie come in and say things like that.

On the other hand, I caught an interview with Carmelo in Maxim this month...He was asked if he'd rather be a sixth man on a winning team, or a superstar for a bad team...guess what he answered?
MARTYEWR
Kishke
Level: 48

Posts: 175/420
EXP: 771097
For next: 52451

Since: 15.10.02

Since last post: 3927 days
Last activity: 3927 days
#10 Posted on 31.10.03 1422.32
Reposted on: 31.10.10 1428.30
On top of his "team first" philosophy, the athletic ability of this kid is incredible. I remember watching a high school dunk competition involving him on TV. He attempted one of those "bounce the ball" dunks, but jumped up a bit too soon. As a result, he ended up doing an unbelievable double clutch in mid-air to save the dunk. Really hard for me to describle, but you had to see it to believe it.

This, of course, doesn't even count with the rest of his overall ability as a player, which everyone saw the other night.
DrDirt
Banger
Level: 106

Posts: 75/2743
EXP: 12579494
For next: 92490

Since: 8.10.03
From: flyover country

Since last post: 2536 days
Last activity: 2438 days
#11 Posted on 31.10.03 1515.39
Reposted on: 31.10.10 1515.51
    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    The problem with LeBron is that he has no consistant jump shot which will come back to haunt him in a month. Teams will take away his penetration and force him to beat them with his jump shot.

    One or two games does not make a career or a season. You should wait until January before passing judgement. It is not going to be hard to score a lot of points for the Cavs when you are the only decent player on the team.


I agree but they interviewed Bird and he was beyond impressed, especially with LeBron's passing and court awareness. A 6' 8" point guard with his quickness should be a superstar. I am skeptical but as the title says "WOW". Plus he doesn't need a great jump shot just a decent one and with his apparent attitude he may be the savior the NBA is looking for. Maybe not with the Cavs though but likely in a major media market ala Jordan or Shaq.
It will be interesting when he hits the more physical style in the east.
Quezzy
Scrapple
Level: 120

Posts: 1253/3517
EXP: 19009919
For next: 477308

Since: 6.1.02
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 2098 days
Last activity: 2098 days
#12 Posted on 31.10.03 2028.34
Reposted on: 31.10.10 2029.01
I admit it, I was impressed with Lebron, maybe he'll have a great year, maybe he'll average 25 points for the season, maybe he'll win rookie of the year. But it doesn't really matter. If he averaged 30 points and won MVP he STILL wouldn't be as good as all the hype he's gotten.
BigVitoMark
Lap cheong
Level: 83

Posts: 567/1509
EXP: 5272933
For next: 159311

Since: 10.8.02
From: Queen's University, Canada

Since last post: 7012 days
Last activity: 6921 days
ICQ:  
#13 Posted on 1.11.03 0059.06
Reposted on: 1.11.10 0059.42
Let's also see how he holds up travelling across the country over an 82 game schedule. When you're accustomed to playing a fraction of that number, mostly (if not all) within your own state. That's a big jump, and to make it all at once as opposed to the gradual change college kids make could take it's toll. If LeBron is still going like this in February, he's flat out amazing. If he winds up hitting the wall halfway through the season, then we're all way ahead of ourselves.
J.T. Dutch
Pickled pork
Level: 34

Posts: 156/197
EXP: 252067
For next: 1587

Since: 3.1.02
From: SoCal 4 Life

Since last post: 6306 days
Last activity: 2677 days
Y!:
#14 Posted on 3.11.03 0749.53
Reposted on: 3.11.10 0751.25
    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    Let's also see how he holds up travelling across the country over an 82 game schedule. When you're accustomed to playing a fraction of that number, mostly (if not all) within your own state.

... This is something I totally agree with. I also have to wonder how James' defense is going to hold up; it's porous as it is. We all know how gifted LeBron is offensively, and that he will receive plenty of chances on a team with little to no scoring depth. Will the constant losing sap his will to hustle on the defensive end? Will he prefer to save that energy for all-out offense in attempts to win games by himself? It's an intriguing situation.

I'm thinking by the end of the year he's at around 16 PPG, 6 and a half APG.
Quezzy
Scrapple
Level: 120

Posts: 1264/3517
EXP: 19009919
For next: 477308

Since: 6.1.02
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 2098 days
Last activity: 2098 days
#15 Posted on 3.11.03 0958.12
Reposted on: 3.11.10 0959.01
Yeah i never really thought about it but I guess losing could have a toll on him. I mean he had a great opening night, he did everything he could and yet they lost because Sacramento scored 120 points on them and there will probably be more nights like that. Too bad he'll be runner in up in the Rookie of the Year behind Udonis Haslem (hey i can dream can't I?)
Stefonics
Frankfurter
Level: 64

Posts: 239/825
EXP: 2150707
For next: 63402

Since: 17.3.02
From: New Jerusalem

Since last post: 2586 days
Last activity: 451 days
#16 Posted on 3.11.03 1041.54
Reposted on: 3.11.10 1044.17
    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    The problem with LeBron is that he has no consistant jump shot which will come back to haunt him in a month. Teams will take away his penetration and force him to beat them with his jump shot.

    One or two games does not make a career or a season. You should wait until January before passing judgement. It is not going to be hard to score a lot of points for the Cavs when you are the only decent player on the team.

Did you not read the posts prior to yours? What is most impressive about LeBron is that he's a team player. If opposing teams stop his slashing, he'll get his teammates involved. This guy can hurt opposing teams with more than his scoring ability. And those jumpers will come with time. Remember, he is only 18. Barring a Len Bias-esque breakdown, he'll be fine.

And Chuck, don't be so harsh on Melo. Of course he'd rather be the supersar on a losing team. He's young. Jordan would have answered the same way had he been posed that exact question in his rookie season. LeBron knows that he's the superstar. Everyone knows he's the superstar. The only thing that people don't know about is whether or not he can make his teammates better. The basketball fan in me wants to say yes.
DrDirt
Banger
Level: 106

Posts: 81/2743
EXP: 12579494
For next: 92490

Since: 8.10.03
From: flyover country

Since last post: 2536 days
Last activity: 2438 days
#17 Posted on 3.11.03 1203.24
Reposted on: 3.11.10 1205.17
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Yeah i never really thought about it but I guess losing could have a toll on him. I mean he had a great opening night, he did everything he could and yet they lost because Sacramento scored 120 points on them and there will probably be more nights like that. Too bad he'll be runner in up in the Rookie of the Year behind Udonis Haslem (hey i can dream can't I?)


I think he lost something like 6 or 8 games in his high school career. Whats going to take a bigger toll on him his playing 82 forteight minute games instead of 30 or so 32 minute games. One thing that will help him is that he doesn't have the build of an 18-year old but has meat on his frame. Plus how will he hold up getting banged around by the more physical style of the Eastern Conference night after night. He did come down to earth a little Saturady night. All in all, once he gets adjusted to everything, if he can keep the attitude he has now, he will be good, reall really good.
ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE
Thread ahead: Bob Cousy's 1957 Championship Ring up for Auction
Next thread: SEC media predictions
Previous thread: Possible Expansion Locations
(1290 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Related threads: LeBron James and his 90mil - Ricky Davis.........IDIOT!!! - More...
The 7 - Basketball - LeBron -- WOW!Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2024 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.082 seconds.