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#1 Posted on 1.12.14 0226.18
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New Japan just launched their WWE Network-style streaming service, NJPW World. 999 yen/month, which works out to $8.43 US according to Cubs, whose math I will not question. You can sign up worldwide. I signed up and am currently watching Hogan vs. Inoki. I love the internet.
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#2 Posted on 1.12.14 0437.07
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Just signed up (I'm in Japan though).
You need to install a specific player (for Android anyway). It will play in a youtube-like window in your browser.
This year's Power Struggle (November 8th) is the newest card they have. The PPVs are broken into individual matches.
They have matches from the Moero! Shin-Nihon Puroresu series, which are themed DVDs that you can buy in bookstores.
As far as I can tell, no individual TV shows and no full cards of older shows. Most of the old matches are culled from the Moero series.
Payment for me is being done through my mobile phone company so I signed up via my phone. There's a system for that all set up so it was a painless process.

Edit: It's not cross platform. Sorry, everything is done in browser selecting matches and whatnot.






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#3 Posted on 1.12.14 0813.40
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Okay, I don't know much about Japanese wrestling other than to ask if I'll get a strong dose of Magnum Tokyo from this. I remember him briefly in WCW but most vividly it was from a special from the late 90's that seemed to be a show organized by Ultimo Dragon.

Also, will this give me a dosage of actual Japanese comedy matches? Those usually RAWK.
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#4 Posted on 1.12.14 0947.39
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    999 yen/month, which works out to $8.43 US according to Cubs, whose math I will not question.


You should! I looked at the number wrong, it was $8.403. DEALBREAKER.


    As far as I can tell, no individual TV shows and no full cards of older shows. Most of the old matches are culled from the Moero series.


Yea, it's surprisingly thin. This is the matches by year page and you can see how quickly it drops off once you get before 2011. There's many times more old content on WWE Network at the moment, though NJPW goes farther back and is generally rarer (at least to people in the US.) If you were just in this for the archived content, you'd need them to be adding more matches frequently, or I think you'd run out of stuff to watch fairly quick.

The selling part is all the new shows you'll start getting in 2015 at one very cheap price. NJPW started running iPPVs for shows, but usually individually. This system changes the math completely:

I'm not a big NJPW follower, but it's likely I'd have bought both the 01/04 Tokyo Dome show (NJPW's biggest show of the year) and the two FantasticaMania shows they're offering (peculiarly, some of CMLL's biggest shows of the year.) Under the old system, that's be $35 for the Dome, and maybe $15 for one of the FM shows and $20 for the other for a $70 bill. That's $9 this way, plus they'll throw in a couple more shows for me. I like that math.

You might notice this looks a lot like the WWE Network. (The 999 is not a coincidence!) The difference, according NJPW followers, is NJPW never really made that much money on PPV (not widespread in Japan) and they have more modest subscriber hopes (100K). NJPW also doesn't have the level of TV outlets that WWE does, so this makes it more accessible.

This also seems to kneecap Jarrett/GFW's plans for NJPW, since NJPW is now offering the same show for much less; GFW now can only offer Jim Ross and easier viewing on your TV for a $20 surcharge. NJPWWorld is only in Japanese and only diehard people are going to know to sign up at first, but if the point of the PPV is to get people interested in NJPW, then some of those people are going to figure out how to get it cheaper. There's still plenty of people who can't or just don't want to do an internet based PPV solution, but we're already in a niche of a niche of a niche - cutting another slice out of it makes it unlikely to work.


    Okay, I don't know much about Japanese wrestling other than to ask if I'll get a strong dose of Magnum Tokyo from this. I remember him briefly in WCW but most vividly it was from a special from the late 90's that seemed to be a show organized by Ultimo Dragon.


That was Toryumon, which is different group. You wouldn't see much of him or comedy matches here. (The long game here is NJPW picking up other promotion's libraries when they fail, but that's a very long game.)
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#5 Posted on 1.12.14 1120.00
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      999 yen/month, which works out to $8.43 US according to Cubs, whose math I will not question.


    You should! I looked at the number wrong, it was $8.403. DEALBREAKER.



According to Google, it's currently $8.44, but fluctuates every second or two.

I'm looking for a way to inflate the dollar so we can get it for around $5.
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#6 Posted on 1.12.14 1909.00
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    (The long game here is NJPW picking up other promotion's libraries when they fail, but that's a very long game.)



Well, there are lots of groups that have already fallen to the wayside like FMW, Tenryu's SWS and WAR and probably some others. And there is the old JWA that New Japan and All Japan came out of. A few of those (especially the old JWA stuff) are probably tied to the TV networks that helped produce them so that might be difficult to acquire.

New Japan is currently the only Japanese wrestling group with a show on network TV and that single hour airs at something 2:00 or 3:00 AM Saturdays. Everything else needs cable and cable just isn't a big a draw as it is in the states.

I actually bought one or two of those Moero DVDs. Considering that they cost 1600 yen (15 dollars or so) and the only other extra is a thin booklet of photos, 999 a month is a bargain.

Right now the site only has seven Dynamite Kid matches but New Japan released a Dynamite Kid DVD box set that has much more so they definitely have a lot more to share.
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#7 Posted on 1.12.14 2056.26
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    Originally posted by LostInUbe
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      (The long game here is NJPW picking up other promotion's libraries when they fail, but that's a very long game.)



    Well, there are lots of groups that have already fallen to the wayside like FMW, Tenryu's SWS and WAR and probably some others. And there is the old JWA that New Japan and All Japan came out of. A few of those (especially the old JWA stuff) are probably tied to the TV networks that helped produce them so that might be difficult to acquire.


Do the other promotions/networks sell DVDs of their library? My thinking is less about the past dead promotions and more about the current ones who could be dead somewhere in the next few years. AJPW has had one foot in the grave a lot lately, NOAH's been in trouble even prior to Misawa's passing and even a smaller group like ZeroOne might have some value. Japan doesn't seem like a healthy landscape for secondary wrestling promotions, but it might be good for scavenging the remains.

Unlike the older promotions, those libraries might include a lot of footage of still active NJPW wrestlers, making it more valuable to market*. Even it's networks/corporations own the footage instead, they could be willing to sell (or even just license ) the footage as an easier way to make money than selling themselves. That's how WWE ended with all their non-Big 3 footage...which mostly sits in a vault, unused, so maybe that's a strike against this idea.

At any rate, it requires NJPW to actually make money on this and that's to be seen.
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#8 Posted on 1.12.14 2223.25
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I'd say most groups put out some sort of DVD but not on a regular basis. I think DDT, Big Japan and some of the joshi groups - especially Stardom - are the most consistent in putting stuff out.

Almost every significant wrestling organization in Japan has some sort of deal with Fighting TV Samurai so there's someone filming almost every show. Some also have deals with Niconico to do streams of shows.

But almost all the DVDs you have to either order, go to specialty shops or actual shows.
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