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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - CM Punk tells all to Colt Cabana
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#1 Posted on 27.11.14 0310.24
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CM Punk has finally told his story of walking out on WWE all the way back in January the night after the Royal Rumble. Much has been written and none of it has come from the source itself. Now, in a two hour interview with Colt Cabana on the Art of Wrestling podcast, Punk has told all.

Go listen to it right here for all the quotes and juicy info from the man himself.

 

He makes it clear right from the outset that he didn't want to sell his story to anyone despite the fact that he knew he could have been "paid handsomely" for doing so. His reasoning?

"Money is not everything, ladies and gentlemen. That will be a big theme in my story."

Right away, Cabana remarks that Punk could have let loose with his feelings at any point and he reveals that he's learned through his years that sometimes it's better to keep the gun in the holster.

http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2014/11/27/7298557/cm-punk-story-walking-out-on-wwe

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#2 Posted on 27.11.14 0331.01
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Money is not everything - it's just something that Punk seems to bring up every five minutes during this podcast.

I think he did the right thing quitting. He's fallen out of love with the business, and it was depressing him and leaving him miserable. But because Punk has an ego the size of Texas, it can't just be that he fell out of love with wrestling. It has to be that he is bigger than WWE, WWE was just a "pit stop" (his words), the fans and WWE never did anything for him, and so on and so forth. He presents himself as such a whiny martyr that it becomes unbearable. And it's frustrating because I agree with almost everything he says! They did screw up by putting HHH over him, they were insane not to have Bryan as plan A1 for this year's WrestleMania, and so on. But he just seems so bitter and arrogant about it here, despite insisting that he's moved on and is happy.
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#3 Posted on 27.11.14 0336.14
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    His wife, AJ, convinced him to go to a doctor in Tampa Bay and he looked at the mass in his back. He was immediately told that he had a staph infection. He was told he needed to go to a hospital and get on an antibiotic IV drip. He wondered what they would do with less time and they cut it out, and gave him antibiotics, an experience he describes as the most painful thing he's gone through in his life. He was given three months of antibiotics and told that after working with a staph infection for three months, he could have died.


Truly the scariest part of the interview. It also makes you wonder who else is working under similar types of conditions and what would happen if, God forbid, something bad were to happen to this person. At what point does liability come into play?
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#4 Posted on 27.11.14 0403.55
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Dr. Chris Amann comes off as the greatest Authority character there never was.

That staph story is insane.
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#5 Posted on 27.11.14 0751.07
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Never heard of this guy.
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#6 Posted on 27.11.14 0931.05
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Money is not everything - it's just something that Punk seems to bring up every five minutes during this podcast.

    I think he did the right thing quitting. He's fallen out of love with the business, and it was depressing him and leaving him miserable. But because Punk has an ego the size of Texas, it can't just be that he fell out of love with wrestling. It has to be that he is bigger than WWE, WWE was just a "pit stop" (his words), the fans and WWE never did anything for him, and so on and so forth. He presents himself as such a whiny martyr that it becomes unbearable. And it's frustrating because I agree with almost everything he says! They did screw up by putting HHH over him, they were insane not to have Bryan as plan A1 for this year's WrestleMania, and so on. But he just seems so bitter and arrogant about it here, despite insisting that he's moved on and is happy.


Totally agree with this. While he can say it's not about the money he is telling his story to benefit his friend's podcast. Nothing wrong with that but there was obviously a motive behind doing it in that format. Of course I always enjoyed Punk's work but knowing that he is kind of a prick outside the ring doesn't make me sad at all that he is gone. I will be fine if he disappears forever and finds something that doesn't make him so miserable. He chose to work there so hopefully what he chooses next suits him better.

I do hope some good comes of what he came out with, especially in regards to the doctor. Of course what will actually come of this is that someone will probably go on to beat Punk's longest title reign of this generation soon.
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#7 Posted on 27.11.14 1115.04
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At the Nerdist podcast at Comic Con, you can tell CM Punk was biting his tongue every time someone asked about the WWE and TripleH. Like he didn't want to burn his bridges. Yeah, he burnt his bridges here. lol And at the Mattel panel, an audience member asked Daniel Bryan how they get paid by the WWE Network and he seems confused then you can tell someone in the sides was telling him not to answer that question. So yeah, $9.99 is great for the fans but I do wonder how these guys get compensated. You have Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler bashing the few people who still paid the PPV price when they could've just paid $9.99 instead.

With Seth Rollins on Talk is Jericho and CM Punk on Art of Wrestling, this week has been pretty entertaining for podcasts.
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#8 Posted on 27.11.14 1146.56
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I don't know how anyone could be against Punk after listening, but I didn't know how they could before either.

The tossed off booking factoids are almost as good as the dirty dirt. Punk didn't want to turn heel, unlike what I've always heard and assumed about it being a striver move. If Punk hadn't turned heel, Rock would've won the title from Daniel Bryan. Punk's heel group was originally supposed to be Big Show, Bryan, and Seth Rollins. Punk pitched the Shield concept but WWE replaced Chris Hero with Roman Reigns. That alone would've made this the most amazing wrestling podio ever even before getting into the good stuff.

All in all, strongly worth waking up in the middle of the night, seeing, and staying up to listen to. Unfortunate to have Dr. Amann recently humanized on Jericho's show.

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#9 Posted on 27.11.14 1406.35
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I can imagine that Punk can be a very difficult employee, but I absolutely get how this company can suck the life out of people.

I think the most discouraging thing is how the handoff from Vince to Triple H might not be as promising as some of us are thinking it might be.

I also hope Punk stays true to his word and is done with WWE, but I still hope comes back to wrestling.

Edit: Punk does a great Helmsley impersonation

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#10 Posted on 27.11.14 1433.22
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There are rumors every month that AJ is imminently done with the company, but I can't imagine that whenever her contract truly is up, she'll want to stick around if this is how her husband was treated by/feels about her employer.
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#11 Posted on 27.11.14 1545.40
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He sucks in the ring, but he's pretty funny




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#12 Posted on 27.11.14 1734.33
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There was something about asking questions for next week, but I missed how to do it.

Really want to ask him if Vince/HHH offered him a Ruble-to-Mania run, with an ironclad guarantee he'd come out last at Mania, if he'd take it.
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#13 Posted on 27.11.14 1754.16
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    Originally posted by oudom
    With Seth Rollins on Talk is Jericho and CM Punk on Art of Wrestling, this week has been pretty entertaining for podcasts.


This is the key thing. I understand if Punk's personality rubs people the wrong way - here or in general - but this was an immensely fascinating for diehard wrestling nerds like myself. Stuff that had been vaguely hinted at - like Punk being upset about having to put over Rock and being highly dubious about what the network was going to do payouts - were finally confirmed and 50 more crazy WWE stories were told. If Cabana had charged $34.95 for this one, it would've been totally worth every penny to me.

I was left thinking Punk should've left sooner and that many of Punk's best promos were apparently delivered to his boss, but also a lot of thoughts about things other than Punk. It's crazy these guys go to a WWE employed doctor who has, at best, conflicted interests. That's obviously going to be the thing to blow up from this, if anything does.

Everything you ever need to know about how WWE feels about women's wrestling can be found in Vince's shock/disgust about UFC allowing women in their cage. They may be friends with Ronda Rousey now, but that view shouldn't be expected to change no matter who's daughter is called up next.

On the face of it, I would assume HHH was just trying to convince Punk that he really was in the main event in 2012 to butter him up into staying, but I'm not completely sure of that at the moment. Given their wild over estimation for the number of network subscribers and their persistent push of their social media followers (which can't really be that meaningful if 1.3mil follow Dolph but only 300K of anyone's fans bother voting in their poll), I wonder if all the stuff that seems likes marketing hype for the sake of marketing hype is the stuff they actually believe? There's a lot of stuff that makes more sense if you're no longer hinged to reality.

Sammartino came back to WWE. Hogan came back to WWE. Bret came back to WWE. Ultimate Warrior came back to WWE and I feel reasonable sure WWE would've done something to get Savage back too if he was still around in this era of needing a big HOF inductee and running low of them. Yesterday I would've said Punk would be back one day, maybe 10 or 20 years down the line, that Punk would be back just because that's what wrestling does to people. Today, no no no no no no no no he's never coming back at that's fine.
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#14 Posted on 27.11.14 1845.13
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Has anything ever leaked on how PPV payments are now vs then?

Also you have to wonder what something like this does to locker room stability or morale.

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#15 Posted on 27.11.14 1856.51
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Has anything ever leaked on how PPV payments are now vs then?


Nothing too specific, I don't think.

I think Meltzer said something a while back about Mania payoffs this year being about what people expected. They were down from last year, but nothing like "Haha suckers, we get all the network money."

But he said today that a lot of people still don't know how royalties are determined.

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#16 Posted on 27.11.14 1946.51
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Money is not everything - it's just something that Punk seems to bring up every five minutes during this podcast.

The context for his money references though is him being mad that he didn't get paid like a top guy when he meant as much.

That was pretty amazing. There's surely an ego there, but again, how many times have we said that? Who really makes it to the top without an ego? The staph infection story alone is enough to justfy anything he says.

I also find it funny how witless Triple H appears to be. As much as he always books himself to bury the shit out of everyone and be the smart-ass and the badass, every behind-closed-doors confrontation he's ever had has him apparently acting quite the navel-gazing bitch. Bret's wife, Warrior, Jerry Brisco, now Punk apparently. Others I'm sure.

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#17 Posted on 27.11.14 2058.04
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Yeah, he is dead right. Vince telling him, that they would owe him this and that and never doing anything about it should worry the hell out of the rest of the locker room. This was one of their top guys and he got jerked around. Guys like Ryder obviously have no chance. HHH seems to be more of self obsessed asshole than even I thought.

I can see why Ryback got eliminated early at Survivor Series. Punk going out of his way to sabotage Batista at the Rumble probably saved Mania. I still can't believe even the next night after the Rumble they still wanted to go through with it. Punk should be getting a large Mania 30 check just for that.

Firing Punk on his wedding day, there are no words for who stupid that is. If you thought he could come back in anyway, why would you do that. It makes no sense. I wonder what Heyman's relationship with Punk after he pointed to his promo as one of the ways he got a settlement.
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#18 Posted on 27.11.14 2130.29
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    this was an immensely fascinating for diehard wrestling nerds like myself. Stuff that had been vaguely hinted at - like Punk being upset about having to put over Rock and being highly dubious about what the network was going to do payouts - were finally confirmed and 50 more crazy WWE stories were told. If Cabana had charged $34.95 for this one, it would've been totally worth every penny to me.


I don't even know what to compare it to for surreality and wonder. Watching a movie adaptation of a book?

    Originally posted by It's False
    It also makes you wonder who else is working under similar types of conditions and what would happen if, God forbid, something bad were to happen to this person. At what point does liability come into play?


"Doctors said you should be ready in 4-6 weeks so we advertised you in 3 for a TLC match" is the story of the entire company, with some "we need you, pal, Ha Ha" mixed in to ice it. It's how there were so many false starts with Daniel Bryan's comebacks and title vacating -- WWE just kept assuming and advertising him at the barest minimum estimates because we need you pal, Ha Ha. Cena pulls it off with both "sports science" and probably a physical bill to pay down the road. Roman Reigns got really lucky with an injury that would be dangerous and counterintuitive to heroically rush the comeback, and even then you wonder about that lucrative holiday tour.
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#19 Posted on 28.11.14 0117.13
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I kinda want to side with The Big Guy.
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#20 Posted on 28.11.14 0218.21
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Countdown begins for CM Punk little person to appear on RAW.
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