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http://www.techcrunch.com/​2009/​07/​14/​youtube-​will-​be-​next-​to-​kiss-​ie6-​support-​goodbye/​
Apparently if you still use IE6 (as 13% of Internet users apparently do), when you go to YouTube.com you get the message that YouTube is phasing out support for your browser. Basically they've decided its dwindling market share means it's not worth making sure that the browser displays things properly, which is apparently a big issue with IE6.

Now on the Digg blog ( http://blog.digg.com/​?​p=878 ) they recently mentioned that IE6 accounts for 10% of Digg's visitors. So they did a survey of IE6 users. 76% of them said that they were unable to upgrade, either because they're running an old version of Windows, they don't have administrator access, or someone at their work says they can't.

I don't know what the end result of it is. Digg says most IE6 users are at their work, so maybe it's not such a big deal if they can't access YouTube. Do the people in charge have any information for what percentage of this site's users use IE6?

(edited by Mr. Boffo on 15.7.09 1632)
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.43
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    Do the people in charge have any information for what percentage of this site's users use IE6?
5% (±1%) of ALL visitors, including nonhumans.

I must use IE6 at work, but I rarely watch YouTube at work. I also have Firefox 3.5 installed at work and try to only use IE6 for the stuff I HAVE to use it for. I would LOVE to never use IE6 again, but we run some legacy stuff that's just never going to get certified for IE7. We're trying to get that stuff replaced. Maybe in 2010.

On another tangent, I'm really not a big fan of all the Java/AJAXification YouTube seems to be going through. I like having links to things. I like being able to navigate using links. This seems to be disappearing with YouTube. I'm sure they have wonderful reasons for that, but it's detracting from my experience as a user. I wonder if they care about that.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.01
    Originally posted by CRZ
    On another tangent, I'm really not a big fan of all the Java/AJAXification YouTube seems to be going through. I like having links to things. I like being able to navigate using links.


I'm sorry if this is a complicated question, but can you explain what you mean? What was there before that now isn't?
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I, too, have to use IE6 at work. But they blocked YouTube so this really doesn't affect me.

While we're complaining about YouTube, I'd like to mention how much I hate it when copyright restrictions prevent me from watching videos. There are always other methods to get to the videos I want, but it's still inconvenient. At the very least, don't waste my time by giving me search results that I can't click through to. If you know I'm Canadian and will block videos as a result, you should know enough to filter the search results appropriately.



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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by CRZ
      On another tangent, I'm really not a big fan of all the Java/AJAXification YouTube seems to be going through. I like having links to things. I like being able to navigate using links.


    I'm sorry if this is a complicated question, but can you explain what you mean? What was there before that now isn't?
Well, on "converted" accounts (and alas, the mandatory conversion is moving along nicely), links that used to work such as http://www.youtube.com/​profile?​user=seeourzed&​view=favorites no longer give me a list of videos. Its replacement, http://www.youtube.com/​user/​seeourzed#play/​favorites, is less useful to me, most notably because I can't get direct links to any of those videos unless I first play them and then click on that icon that'll give me some code to cut'n'paste. Basically, it's more hoops and more hassle, and for what? (Again, I probably know WHY they'd want to do that, but I'd rather they try to please ME [the end user] instead of the content providers or the MPAA or RIAA or whoever, which is what this smells like.)

(edited by CRZ on 15.7.09 1813)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Do the people in charge have any information for what percentage of this site's users use IE6?
    5% (±1%) of ALL visitors, including nonhumans.

Most of the stats I see online say that IE6 is still used by around 15-25% of all users. This is mostly due to the fact that IE6 is still the default browser of Windows XP which is, I think, still the most common operating system in use.

This change affects me not one bit, but I'm totally with YouTube on this. Trying to hack up some IE6-specific CSS to make my web sites work in all browsers might be the most painful part of the web development process for me. I have some friends who say that trying to get Ajax to work in IE6 is even worse for them, although personally I've had no problems with this.

Of course, it'd be nice if even IE7 was standards compliant, but I guess that'd be asking for too much.

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    Originally posted by KJames199
    I, too, have to use IE6 at work. But they blocked YouTube so this really doesn't affect me.

    While we're complaining about YouTube, I'd like to mention how much I hate it when copyright restrictions prevent me from watching videos. There are always other methods to get to the videos I want, but it's still inconvenient. At the very least, don't waste my time by giving me search results that I can't click through to. If you know I'm Canadian and will block videos as a result, you should know enough to filter the search results appropriately.
I hear ya. Imagine my shock when I tried to check out some of the Barenaked Ladies videos, only to find out that they were blocked. Hello, THEY'RE CANADIAN!

I'm still holding out hope for Canadian access to Hulu. Every proxy switch idea that I've tried doesn't work.



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