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I was thinking now that 2011 is almost upon us, we could list the top ten seasons not shows from 2000 til now. The reason for seasons is shows sometimes start in the 90s and continue on, so it might be easier to look at particular seasons. So, here is my list.

10) Dollhouse season 2. Originally, this was going to be a giant Whedon list then I remembered the only Buffy season in the 2000s I liked was season 7 which was just ok and not as good as the other Whedon seasons. Dollhouse season 2 is a very weird season where they were told they were canceled midway through and had to wrap everything up. This forced the team to hit the overdrive which made the show increasingly better. Guest starring Joss alumni Alexis and Summer didn't rehash Wes and River, but created totally new characters. The ensemble really gelled. Olivia Williams hits all the marks as Edel from moral boss to stooge to Darth Vader to resistance general to mother Shepard and she isn't even a doll. Ezia is good as Echo, but Victor and Topher steal the show especially when Topher turns Victor into him. The Topher Brink character maybe end up being the one best remembered from the show. The last five episodes maybe the best arc Joss has done since Angel Season 4 or Buffy Season 3. Even with this high praise its number 10, because even with 13 episodes there are about three episodes that are just useless and showed the real reason it got canned besides poor ratings, the creators weren't that motivated to move things forward.

9) 24 Season 1. 24 begins and ends for me with this season. Sutherland remarked "How many bad days can one guy have I?" My answer probably just one and thats ok. The show feels fresh and new with Keifer playing a guy doing his job no matter what the cost. The cost at the end of this season is pretty high. The twist the show takes are very unexpected. You also have a Young Guns reunion with Lou Diamond Phillips and the late great Dennis Hopper as the villain. Yet, the ending is what seals the deal and probably the most shocking ending in TV. While I did enjoy this season, it fell into the trap that would doom 24 which is not a lot or too much seems to happen in one hour. The sad part of 24 is that you never really get the payoff for this years finale in a meaningful way.

8.) Venture Brothers season 2. A cartoon? Yeah and don't be shocked, its not the only one. Venture Brothers started out as a rif on the 1960s Johnny Quest series and then evolved into something what that something is I don't even know. Season 1 was good, but season 2 actually shows you depth to this characters. In that depth, you actually start caring about the characters. By the finale, you actually care if Monarch marries Dr. Girlfriend or who is going to survive the battle against Phantom Limb. The finale battle alone is worth the price of admission alone. The worst thing, I can say about a show is that I wish I had more time with and I can defiantly say that about Venture Brothers.

7.) How I meet your Mother season 2. This is the only comedy to make it mainly due to me giving up on Must See TV after Seinfeld left and realizing the Office was going nowhere fast. Big Bang was going to make the list, but I choose this other CBS comedy due to three things: Slap Bet, Robin Sparkles and the wedding. The mythology if you can call it that for the show starts here and leads to other great episodes.

6.) West Wing season 7. In a time when West Wing was on Sunday nights and all, but forgotten even by its creator, Sorkin. It came back like a Phoenix. A year long storyline involving a Presidential campaign dealing with real parties and real life issues minus the nuclear planet thing was a nice change of pace. The irony is that Obama/McCain started mirroring the events on the show a few years later. It also showed both candidates as rather decent guys who could do the job. Alan Alda hasn't been this good since early MASH and Jimmy Smitts is also great. Yet, the biggest shocker was the real life death of John Spencer who died mid-way through the season and his death had to be explained. In some of the most eye watering moments on TV, his death was handled with a great amount of respect and love from the staff. The show ended on a high when many people thought it was DOA as soon as they started the election storyline in season six. Even with all this praise, the show in the mid-way point seemed to prolonging everything just to get to the election.

5.) Sons of Anarchy season 1. I know people really liked season two, but for me this is the best season. The show is Hamlet with a biker gang. Ron Pearlmen plays Clay with such a delight and deadliness, I am still shocked no nods have come his way. Yet, that is not as shocking as Katey Sagal as Gemma who is by far the best written and acted female character on television. They play both loving parents to Jax and their grandson, Abel even as they control the town with an iron fist. Jax is the biker with a heart of gold and quick trigger when it comes to defending the people they love. The cast is not as fleshed out as it is in season two or three, but they are still good characters. Season 1 ends with one of the most beautiful long shots ever of Jax standing at his father's grave, a father who was probably killed by Clay and Gemma with the song "John the Revelator" playing in the background. In that scene, Jax's course is laid out in front of him and like Hamlet, he decides to war against his step-father and mother. A great way to end the season.

4.) Heroes Season 1. Yes, the most beloved and then quickly hated show of the 2000s. Even though the show would hit some rather giant potholes in later seasons and incurred fanboy wrath mainly due to no new Star Wars films coming out, season 1 still holds up. Intergrating supers into a real world environment has been in comics for a long time, but never tried on television in an epic way. Sure, Bixby's Hulk was good, yet it didn't have the scope Heroes did. The show created characters first, powers second. The show also didn't have a problem killing main characters at times too which if you go back and look at the body count of the first season, it was pretty damn high. The characters took off right away and the storyline had a lot of great twists and turns. People complain about the finale, I can't because it was the only logical thing that could have happened. In my mind Heroes season 1 maybe the best first season in all of Television.

3.) Doctor Who series 4. I am going to cheat a bit here and add the mini-series as well. People who love the current Doctor Who myself included would rank series 5 ahead of this. I am not mainly due to the fact I thought Amy wishing everyone back was a coup out and I don't think Matt has hit the emotional level David hit with this season. Matt still has plenty of time to get there and I have faith he will. We start the season with the Doctor alone and that is how we end the season as well. The 4th season has my favorite companion, Donna who brings a breath of fresh air as the only companion of the new era who doesn't want to fuck the Doctor. Donna is played for laughs which she succeeds and frailty even with your rough around the edges attidue. She really is the highlight of the season while David expands the Doctor character to new heights. The series 4 finale is the best finale to date with a ton of guest stars from best Dr.Who shows and the return of Davros and the Daleks. One of the best Who seasons, we see all of them fly the Tardis to return Earth back to home. Then, after this happy moment, we return to the real life Dr.Who of a man alone when all of his friends leave including Donna in heart breaking way. While this would be good for top ten what makes it top five is mini-series. Water of Mars is amazing as well as the fun of the Other Doctor. Yet, End of Time stands alone. Bernard Krinetic as Donna's grandfather will make you cry every time he cries. The Master is as evil and insane as ever as well as the Time Lords. The final montage with a great haunting melody show the Doctor's reward. In my opinion, the best Doctor Who season to date.

2) Angel Season 5. As the other Whedon season, it stands apart from the rest. I know people will scream where the hell is Firefly? My answer is on the overrated table next to Battlestar. Serenity killed my love for Firefly which was more like a nice co-worker friendship instead of love really. Angel starts off with the group heading their worst enemy's LA law firm. While, the idea is weird, it is also fun. It shows the moral quandary in which we live in which also happens to be Angel's theme through out the series. Then you throw Spike into the mix and you have a great show go to Oh My God Fuck The DVR, I am watching this shit live. James Masters brings a lot of energy and fun to a show at the end of season 4 seemed destined for my dark brooding. The fight between Spike and Angel to become human pretty much beats out a lot of the real life main events of the last few years. Cordelia and Fred's death take the show from funny to dark all in one disc of the DVD collection. While I hate the finale and feel like it was done to an F-U to the network, it turned into a more of an F-U to the fans who wanted to see that fight on TV not in the comics. Even with a weak finale there still a lot of awesome in this season even with the rushed Illyaria storyline. This is Joss' best work since Buffy season 3 which to me is in my top five seasons of all time.

1.) Justice League Unlimited season 1. Wait, a F'N cartoon. Plus, didn't you say Heroes was the best first season. Yes, it is a cartoon and yes, its technically the first season, but really is Justice League Season 3. The plots from season 1 and 2 remain the same, so in my mind its JL season 3. This show does what no comic book, movie or other forum of media has done in a long time or ever, shows us a universe we know, but we really don't know. Everyone knows who Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and maybe Green Lantern or Flash. But who knows who Green Arrow is or Hawkgirl or Martian Manhunter? Besides DC nerds not many people. Here almost every person ever written in the DC universe is on display and they are all incredible. They made the Question, the fucking Question, into a character I would pay $10 to see a movie about or watch an entire show about. This do this for almost every DC character on the show. Add in one of the most adult and thought provoking storylines of the decade and you have a winner. Even while they show off characters like Question, Green Arrow and Huntress, they never forget the core of group of seven characters from the first two seasons. In the second to last episodes that group of is shown as the fighting force we imagined them to be including one of the best moments in television of Flash using Speed Force against a Lex Luthor who has the powers of Braniac. That moment maybe the greatest hero moment ever animated or put on TV. In the epilogue ends Batman Beyond, one of the most underrated shows of its day and logical connects to this show. The episode even shows a side of Bruce Wayne, we didn't think existed, compassion. As much as I love most of DC recent giant crossovers minus Final Crisis and Countdown, this blows them away. If you are fan of good television, you have to see this season. If you are a comic book fan and not seen this season, what the hell is wrong with?

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Your title of this thread is misleading. Your list certainly isn't MY Top Ten Seasons of the 2000s. We watch different shows and myself, I would never, ever include Heroes or Dollhouse in a Best of Anything.

Of the shows I watched, 13 in no particular order.

Angel season 5. A forlorn struggle against evil waged from the very heart of it. Tore all the main characters apart and we found out what they were made of. The Immortal episode was one of my very favorite ever, and this season made me love Spike again after the way he was written on Buffy after season 2. Plus one of the great final lines: "I'm gonna go slay that dragon."

Firefly season 1/the complete series. Never deserved to be canceled when there was so much more story to tell. Serenity was a band aid on that wound.

Wonderfalls season 1/the complete series. Joan of Arc in a whimsical, quirky fantastical universe with a wonderful central performance by Caroline (deserved to be a big star) Dhavernas as Jaye Tyler, an endearingly surly slacker.

Battlestar Galactica season 1. The promise of the series was yet to be fulfilled but the early episodes of the survivors of the 12 Colonies struggling to move beyond the nuclear holocaust of humanity at the hands of the Cylons and searching for Earth had what I think were some of the series' cleanest and best episodes. The early struggles, the questioning of the Cylons, before even more tragedy was heaped upon them in later seasons, were what I remember most fondly. And the season ended with a mano e mano of Starbuck vs. Six. But the episode when Commander Adama told off Starbuck and made her cry, but then refused to move the fleet because he wanted to wait until the very last second for the missing Starbuck to return is the one that made me love this series.

Lee: "What if it was me out there?"
Adama: "Son, if it was you, I'd never leave."

Lost season 1. The very idea Heroes season one is on a best of list while Lost's first season isn't is appalling and ridiculous. Heroes wouldn't even have existed without Lost, without Tim Kring watching Lost and saying: "I want some of that money they're making." Praising Heroes season one over Lost season one is like saying the "milkshakes" at McDonalds are better than ones made with premium ice cream and real milk.

Veronica Mars season 1. One of the greatest examples of a complete 22 episode story arc in the history of television. "Who Killed Lily Kane?" was the mystery. In the end, we found out, and learned so much more while falling in love with Kristen Bell's portrayal of Veronica Mars. And Keith Mars might be the best TV dad ever.

The Wire season 3. Hamsterdam. Vote Tommy Carcetti mayor.

The Wire season 4. If Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman were inner city kids in the failing Baltimore school system. A story never before told on television in this way.

Friday Night Lights season 1. If The Wire is the most intimate and unflinching portrait of urban America in decline, FNL season 1 was the most intimate and engrossing portrayal of red state, small town America, it's values, flaws, hope, character and triumphs.

Mad Men season 4. Who is Don Draper? We know more than ever as he seems to know less. The best season of the series so far. And "The Suitcase" is currently the best episode of Mad Men to date and absolutely one of the best-written hours of television I've ever seen.

The Office season 3. Expanded The Office universe, adding Andy, brought Pam out of her shell finally, and had my favorite episode ever, directed by Joss Whedon, when Michael went to Ryan's business school, there was a bat in the office, and no one went to Pam's art show except Michael. Plus all the other great, great episodes in the season.

Parks and Recreation season 2. Many threads on this very board have documented the rise to greatness of Parks and Rec.

Community season 1. Same with Community.

Honorable mentions:

Dead Like Me season 1.

Breaking Bad, only because I just started watching it.

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Mine would revolve around

Mad Men Seasons - 4 has been the best, but I also think 2 was very solid. That's the best show on TV

Flashforward - the best show no one watched

Life on Mars - the second best show no one watched

Big Bang Theory - it's kind of hard for me to choose a specific season, but season 2 was about the best, I guess. It's such a funny show and the only sitcom I watch

NCIS LA. - any season. LL Cool J is on there. That's really all I need.

and Earlier? TV's not important enough for that. I enjoyed Lost, thought after the second season it kind of lost its way. And Ray Romono was in in the 2000s, right? Can't go wrong there.



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    Originally posted by AWArulz

    Life on Mars - the second best show no one watched


The British version or the American one? I watched neither, but always felt I should.



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You have to include the John Lithgow season of Dexter in there
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Let us not forget the entire run of Arrested Development took place in the 2000's. Either S1 or S2 is an absolute must
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    Originally posted by lotjx

    6.) West Wing season 7.



No "Big block of cheese" episode, so it can't be their best!

In all seriousness, any 1-4 season was better than the latter. I love Alan Alda and all, but season 7 was such a huge change in direction with the campaign trail that I had to force myself to see it all because I knew it was the last one.



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Yeah, the second season of West Wing is the only one I'd rank in any 'best' category, since it was fully in the 2000s decade and it was arguably the best season of any show in the entire decade. The post-Sorkin years were clearly a step down, though S6 and S7 were pretty decent. (S5 was the pits.)
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by AWArulz

      Life on Mars - the second best show no one watched


    The British version or the American one? I watched neither, but always felt I should.


I only saw a couple episodes of the British one, but it was good. But Harvey Kietal ruled in the US one. I just could not MISS that show. It's what I got a DVR for. Mostly for Harvey, but Michael Imperioli totally grew on me during that show and because of that I am watching Detroit 187 this season.

and, in my defense, used to be an officer, so cop shows are my fave, even though none of them are very true. (mostly, it's very boring)



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I was hoping other people like Awa would post their list. Also, I didn't bother watching Lost due something a friend of mine said "There is too much weird shit and time jumping for them to ever explain it right and why bother watching a show if you know the end is going to be either a giant letdown or so confusing it will take you to figure it out and still be wrong next to the other online nerd's theory." I doubt Lost was due to Heroes probably more to the fact that comic book movies have been huge over the last few years. It might have helped get them on TV with a show like Lost out there, but Heroes at least in the first season had a tight storyline something Lost never seem to have even in the first season. Lost like most show's first season was all about introducing characters and the island, there was no real story, it was just a trailer for the show.

I liked BSG and thought about putting the New Caprica season on the list of at least notables. Yet, after they were rescued the show seemed to stop for the rest of the season. I watch AD here and there, yet I thought near the end it go weak. I am glad people brought up West Wing season 2 and 3, I couldn't remember if those were in the 2000s or not. I still like season 7 due to actually showing what goes during the campaign and what happens after Santos is elected. Last time West Wing tried it with Bartlett's re-election they pretty much blow it. Plus, Spencer's real life death was done very well on the show.

I am curious to see if other people have different list as well and which shows overlap as Angel and West Wing seem to be doing. Has anyone seen the sequel show to Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, looked weird. If you like weird Brit shows, Being Human is pretty good.

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This is intriguing. I will absolutely fill this out but I have to think first.
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Not really in any order, except i denoted a winner for both categories.
I split off comedy from drama/action. I follow non-comedy shows to get the story, but am mostly entertained by comedies. As much as I loved Season 1 of Lost, I doubt I will ever re-watch it in the next 20 years. On the other hand, I have watched Season 1 of 30 Rock three or four times by now.

Comedy
Season 1 of 30 Rock
Season 1 of Modern Family
Season 1 of Community
Seasons 4 and 5 of Always Sunny
Seasons 1 and 2 of Arrested Development
Season 2 of the Office
Season 2 of Parks and Rec (winner)


Non-Comedy
Seasons 1 and 4 of Dexter
Season 4 of the Wire
Seasons 1 and 2 of Lost
Season 1 of Breaking Bad (winner)

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None of your lists matter, because nobody has mentioned season 5 of The Shield. The story arc involving Lem trying to stay out of jail, and ending with probably the most heartbreaking death of a TV Character since Bobby Simone died on NYPD Blue.

OR, Season 7 of The Shield. Claudette gets put in charge, Kavanaugh goes off with a Internal Affairs charge, Dani and Corrine both realize that Vic is a horrible father, Shane goes in with the Armenian Mob to try to set up the Strike Team, Acevedo and Vic help each other for their own selfish reasons, Vic cuts a deal with ICE for both immunity and a job, and sells Ronnie Gardocki down the river (his "You told them EVERYTHING?" line was the best line he ever delivered) Shane goes Benoit and then eats his pistol.

Every storyline wrapped up, bad people mostly punished (Vic was relegated to a desk job, no field work, no gun, etc) and fans are happy with everybody's fate.
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I'm still on Season 3 of The Shield, so I'll be getting there eventually.



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I don't watch much TV, so I'm not going to bother listing a top 10, but I can say my list would absolutely include whichever seasons of OZ happened in the appropriate decade. I can only assume the fact that nobody has mentioned it so far can be attributed to one or both of two factors: 1) The series stopped running seven years ago, and a list covering such a wide time frame is inevitably going to be skewed toward the things fresher in the memory or 2) none of you actually enjoy good television.

(Just kidding about that last part. Kind of.)
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Non-comedies that I watch as they air stick with me more than those that I watch via DVD or other means. The Sopranos, Oz, Six Feet Under, Battlestar Galactica, and probably a few others all fall into this category. All fantastic shows, but because I watched them at a much faster rate than 1 episode per week, they didn't sink in the same way.

I do agree with John-O on the first seasons of Veronica Mars and Friday Night Lights. Those are two of the most perfect TV seasons ever. Can't believe I forgot about them.

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Battlestar Galactica seasons 1-4
The Office seasons 2 and 3
Community season 1
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia seasons 3 and 4
The Sopranos (hard to choose) season 4




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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    and ending with probably the most heartbreaking death of a TV Character since Bobby Simone died on NYPD Blue.

Jin and Sun would like to have a word with you about that. Oh wait. They can't. Because they're DEAD.

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The Shield, AD, Dollhouse, Six Feet Under and Angel/Buffy would all be on my list, so I'm not going to rehash. Things I haven't seen mentioned.

Pushing Daisies, Any Season - Especially season 1, but, really, I loved every episode of that show and mourn it eternally.

Chuck, Season 3 - When Chuck learned Kung Fu, with Scott Bakula being amazing as Chuck's Dad.

The Middleman - Only ran one season, but I LOVED that show and still mourn it.

Justified, Season One - Really great show, gritty, well-acted, and different than most other things on TV. Can't wait for season two.





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I can echo the love for LIFE ON MARS. What a fun series. For the life of me. I never would have guessed the end of the series.

Season 9 of CSI was pretty epic: Warrick dies, Grissom leaves, Sarah returns somewhat, and Langston debuts.

Castle: Season 1 was a lot of fun...it set the stage for a quirky season that has become must-see TV for me.

There are many, many others...but I think those are the top three.



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