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DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
      Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
        Originally posted by BWT
        Hey Dean no mention of the package Mark Jindrak is packing under the weenie rap. I think its obvious why Teddy Long picked him now.


      It's....it's..... it's... it's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! It's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


    Wow, we've finally reached a point where even the mighty DEAN has to call an end to the "wang" discussions. See what you guys did to him? Do you SEE IT?

    (psst...it's a good thing Mark Henry is still on the IR and Randy Orton is on Raw.)


I can follow more than one wang, I just need more warning than what I recieved.

And Blanket Jackson, the I Quit match is even better than you remember it. I try to rewatch it once a year.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
There was however one word you forgot in reference to Tully Blanchard: brat. NO ONE played the brat OR the pompous ass any better than he did. You know how some people say HHH wishes he was Ric Flair? WRONG. HHH wishes he could be Tully Blanchard. Of course Trip is too cool for school to TRY to be Tully, even though he probably should.

Also, since your little analysis of his was dead-on, you could also make the case that Tully was the prototype of the Dangerous Dork motif that Kurt Angle perfected years later. If they loved to hate Flair, they LOOOOOVED to hate Tully. Because he was damn good at making them hate him.



Ho-lee Mackinaw!
DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
    Originally posted by Cerebus
      Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
      - Jackie comes out and 45 year old virgins blow a fetid load over their Complete Black Adder Dvd Set onto their Reid Fleming World Toughest Milkman Collectors Buttons.


    Uhh, I actually own BOTH of these items that you are talking about.



NO WAY! I was combining one thing that my uber-dork friend has with something I had back in the day. I think this would make you CEREBUS, KING OF THE DORKS.

The "What The Hell Are You Looking At" button was sooooo choice.

(edited by DEAN RASMUSSEN on 16.4.04 1049)


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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.60
DEAN, that was a beautiful review. I would slightly disagree on the stripper comment involving Tully, as stripper's deserve more dignity than being compared to that wildebeast Baby Doll. James E. Cornette deserves a medal from Congress for preventing her from reproducing.
And Blanket, break down and get the DVD with it. Just the Magnum commentary over the match he lost the U.S. Title in the first place is worth the 20. Well, that and the I Quit match being on both DVD's, so that you can put two TV's next to each other and watch twice the barbarism at once.



I want you to know, I agree with everything I just said.
DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    DEAN, that was a beautiful review. I would slightly disagree on the stripper comment involving Tully, as stripper's deserve more dignity than being compared to that wildebeast Baby Doll.


Oh come on. You'd hit it back in the day. Those thighs....



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Joe E. Nitro
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.62

    Odd archtypical subtext to the match: Tully Blanchard is a Southern Archtype (I say Southern because I don't know of any other frame of reference in my personal experience). I knew guys that were like the personna that Blanchard
    portrayed: nouveau riche or wastrel son of nouveau riche, not overly good-looking but had enough money to attract a certain kind of woman. He's overeager to look hip and isn't a bad guy usually- fun to get drunk with, tells a good filthy story and will try to get one his old conquests in the room to suck your dick. He's a doofus but he an amiable doofus if you aren't one of the women he is trying to victimize. His women are never in love with him, but are usually hot looking stripper types with psychological issues who tolerate him because they can barely tolerate any man, but he at least has money he's willing to spend and is a good time usually.

    Magnum TA is another Southern Archtype. His archtype is actually a lot like my older brother- really good-looking guy and always could have any woman he wants but will be faithful to whoever he is seeing at the time and attracts all of Tully's women with true love and also every other woman who meets him but has solid inner core of values that the Tully archtype doesn't have. He never takes advantage but he can be a shithead sometimes- but he is an all around good guy who will do the right thing at the end of the day. The Magnum will tolerate the Tully guy for a while but they usually won't hang out. The Tully guy is too weasly for the Magnum guy to trust and Magnum guy is too straightlaced to enjoy the excesses and flailing desperation of the Tully guy. Stick any two like these in a cage and it would be similar to these results if enough beer was drank and it the Tully guy talked enough shit.


Wow Dean. Those are both right on the money. I take it no one on Smackdown warrants this kind of deep character analysis. After laying the characters down like you just have I feel that I have to rewatch the match just so I can see it with this perspective.

Do you think Magnum TA could have been one of the greats in the business if not for the injury. I always thought he would probably be remembered as a Windahm or a Nikita Koloff. Great for the time, but not really a Flair, Funk or Steamboat.


JoshMann
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      DEAN, that was a beautiful review. I would slightly disagree on the stripper comment involving Tully, as stripper's deserve more dignity than being compared to that wildebeast Baby Doll.


    Oh come on. You'd hit it back in the day. Those thighs....


Only because I was right around puberty at the time and probably would have hit ANYTHING.

Koo koo ke chu, Mrs. Baby Doll, heaven loves you more than you will know, whoa whoa whoa.

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    And Blanket, break down and get the DVD with it.


It's on my list...also because I've never seen the Bret-Owen cage match at The Summerslam. But I'm also saving for a new car and a laptop right now, so I can't get EVERYTHING I want.





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DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
    Originally posted by Joe E. Nitro
    Do you think Magnum TA could have been one of the greats in the business if not for the injury. I always thought he would probably be remembered as a Windahm or a Nikita Koloff. Great for the time, but not really a Flair, Funk or Steamboat.


He would have never been as great as Barry Windham but he would have been better than Sting or Luger and that ilk that filled his spot. He had the ability to brawl like a motherfucker that most people overlook and that would have gotten him into the lower Windham eschelon at least.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.60
    Originally posted by Joe E. Nitro

      Odd archtypical subtext to the match: Tully Blanchard is a Southern Archtype (I say Southern because I don't know of any other frame of reference in my personal experience). I knew guys that were like the personna that Blanchard
      portrayed: nouveau riche or wastrel son of nouveau riche, not overly good-looking but had enough money to attract a certain kind of woman. He's overeager to look hip and isn't a bad guy usually- fun to get drunk with, tells a good filthy story and will try to get one his old conquests in the room to suck your dick. He's a doofus but he an amiable doofus if you aren't one of the women he is trying to victimize. His women are never in love with him, but are usually hot looking stripper types with psychological issues who tolerate him because they can barely tolerate any man, but he at least has money he's willing to spend and is a good time usually.

      Magnum TA is another Southern Archtype. His archtype is actually a lot like my older brother- really good-looking guy and always could have any woman he wants but will be faithful to whoever he is seeing at the time and attracts all of Tully's women with true love and also every other woman who meets him but has solid inner core of values that the Tully archtype doesn't have. He never takes advantage but he can be a shithead sometimes- but he is an all around good guy who will do the right thing at the end of the day. The Magnum will tolerate the Tully guy for a while but they usually won't hang out. The Tully guy is too weasly for the Magnum guy to trust and Magnum guy is too straightlaced to enjoy the excesses and flailing desperation of the Tully guy. Stick any two like these in a cage and it would be similar to these results if enough beer was drank and it the Tully guy talked enough shit.


    Wow Dean. Those are both right on the money. I take it no one on Smackdown warrants this kind of deep character analysis. After laying the characters down like you just have I feel that I have to rewatch the match just so I can see it with this perspective.

    Do you think Magnum TA could have been one of the greats in the business if not for the injury. I always thought he would probably be remembered as a Windahm or a Nikita Koloff. Great for the time, but not really a Flair, Funk or Steamboat.








I'm a huge Magnum fan, but I don't think he would have been on the level of Flair/Steamboat. However, he was on the level of Barry Windham in his prime, which is one step below the Flair/Steamboat level, with the occassional visit to that level. Unless the Soviet Sports Ministry was setting the level, Nikita was nowhere near the Magnum/Windham level, let alone Flair/Steamboat.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
      Originally posted by Joe E. Nitro
      Do you think Magnum TA could have been one of the greats in the business if not for the injury. I always thought he would probably be remembered as a Windahm or a Nikita Koloff. Great for the time, but not really a Flair, Funk or Steamboat.


    He would have never been as great as Barry Windham but he would have been better than Sting or Luger and that ilk that filled his spot. He had the ability to brawl like a motherfucker that most people overlook and that would have gotten him into the lower Windham eschelon at least.


Although really, it's an unanswerable question, because for all we know he could have gotten much better had he wrestled the 5 years of his prime that got taken away from him. We're just judging by the standard of 1985-1986 when he was GETTING really good but I don't think he had hit his top level as a worker quite yet.

Plus, we never got to see him be THE man, which he was *that* close to becoming before the accident.



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DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
Barry Windham was better than Ricky Steamboat.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    the glory of Magnum versus Tully fucking Blanchard I QUIT- the greatest fucking wrestling match in the history of wrestling matches.

You're DAMN RIGHT!!! That match was almost 20 years ago and it's still my favorite match and has been ever since I first watched it on the Starrcade '85 video tape. I once bought one of those crappy WCW videotapes (I think it was called "Greatest Grudges")at some video store in a mall just because it had a chopped up version of the Tully vs. Magnum "I Quit" match.

The only match that even comes close to that match for me is the first WarGames match, which I saw live at the old Omni in Atlanta thanks to a gift from my grandfather for my 12th birthday.

    Barry Windham was better than Ricky Steamboat.

I don't know that I would say Barry was better than Ricky Steamboat, but he was great back in the day. Another one of my favorite matches was a simple Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham house show match at the Township Auditorium in Columbia, SC in either '87 or '88. That house show match was as good as any PPV match you'll see these days.

And Barry Windham was a MAN!!! The guy had a good match with Lex Luger even after he legitimately broke his hand (actually had blood pouring out of his hand) early in the match.


Back to the Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum T.A. match, Tully was right. HE NEVER SAID "I QUIT!" He only said "YEEESSSS, YEEEESSSSS, YEEEEESSSSS!" followed by "NOOOOO, NOOOOO, NOOOO!" and then "YEEESSSS, YEEESSSS, YEEEESSSS" again after Magnum jammed that piece of wood back in his head.

(edited by The 5th Horseman on 16.4.04 1838)
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40
    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    It's....it's..... it's... it's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! It's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


You've gone soft. I don't believe in nothin' no more.



"ScreamingHeadGuy, don't fear the wang. Know the wang. Embrace the wang. BE the wang....."
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DEAN RASMUSSEN
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
    Originally posted by ScreamingHeadGuy
      Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
      It's....it's..... it's... it's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! It's JUST TOO MANY WANGS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


    You've gone soft. I don't believe in nothin' no more.


I've gone SOOO the opposite of soft.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.87
    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    Barry Windham was better than Ricky Steamboat.


Hell yes. Steamboat was good and all but there's a reason that the only "great" matches you hear about involving the guy are his ones with Flair and Macho Man. I don't know if it was because he got lazy or disillusioned or what, but most of what I remember about Ricky Steamboat involves millions of armdrags and massive overselling. He was a great face, but IMO he was closer to Sting than Flair inside the ring.



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